Steve Borock says CGC cases need to be changed every 8-10 years 3 3

[THE_BEYONDER]

12 minutes ago, comicwiz said:

Didn't read through this thread, but I do remember this being a lifespan of 7 years, and the microchamber paper also having something to do with it. 

It was initially all about swapping out the micro chamber paper.  There was never any shelf life on the slab itself. 

[Buzzetta]

7 hours ago, Jeffro. said:

Is this the place to be today? I can't decide between this thread and all the  going on in the trading card forum.

When confused or torn between the two go with trading cards.  That's all new drama.  People like you and I have seen this drama play out already. 

[comicwiz]

11 minutes ago, THE_BEYONDER said:

It was initially all about swapping out the micro chamber paper.  There was never any shelf life on the slab itself. 

Not so sure with Barex. So I'd err on the side of caution with any slabs after the plant closure, and CGC using a different material for it's inner well. Keep also in mind that the hard outer shell itself uses a blue pigment that offsets the kind of yellow discouration that is likely to occur. May not be for another 10-15 years, but I personally wouldn't go as far as giving the outer case the all clear. There's top loaders I have from the 90's that have all yellowed, and keeping anything in them when they start to become discoloured is unwise. 

Edited April 27, 2021 by comicwiz

[StillOnly25Cents]

doesn't everyone re-slab all their books anyway when CGC comes out with a new case design?

[Funnybooks]

2 hours ago, JazzMan said:

Buy the label, not the book.

Yes...buy the pulp, not the plastic 

[Readcomix]

3 hours ago, JazzMan said:

Here's my FF1 that used to be a CGC 2.5 that was graded in 2000.  I should have taken it out earlier! 

Just have it pressed 

[onlyweaknesskryptonite]

36 minutes ago, Readcomix said:

Just have it pressed 

Restoration includes.  Molecules reassembled . 

[kav]

7 minutes ago, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

Restoration includes.  Molecules reassembled . 

[kav]

If comics were as fragile as Borock seems to think no books would have survived from the GA.
None.

[kav]

Molecule Man needs some chapstick btw.

[Funnybooks]

4 hours ago, JazzMan said:

Here's my FF1 that used to be a CGC 2.5 that was graded in 2000.  I should have taken it out earlier! 

Don't be afraid to just add water

[kav]

Instant Action #1 just add water would SELL.

[Funnybooks]

3 minutes ago, kav said:

Instant Action #1 just add water would SELL.

[kav]

3 minutes ago, Funnybooks said:

 

 

Edited April 28, 2021 by kav

[kav]

2 minutes ago, kav said:

 

 

[Mmehdy]

1 hour ago, kav said:

If comics were as fragile as Borock seems to think no books would have survived from the GA.
None.

I will second that, it depends on the book and the page or staple condition, if brittle pages, it might be wise to change out every 5/7 years for sure

[kav]

2 minutes ago, Mmehdy said:

I will second that, it depends on the book and the page or staple condition, if brittle pages, it might be wise to change out every 5/7 years for sure

if you have action #1 I would change daily.

[catman76]

the thing that boggles my mind is why anyone would permanently keep comics in a slab. I get the point of grading and slabbing for knowing exactly what you are buying, but after that it makes no sense to me to keep a comic sealed up in a slab.

[Lazyboy]

4 hours ago, Buzzetta said:

11 hours ago, Jeffro. said:

Is this the place to be today? I can't decide between this thread and all the  going on in the trading card forum.

When confused or torn between the two go with trading cards.  That's all new drama.  People like you and I have seen this drama play out already. 

I was disappointed when I read this earlier and went to check the card forum, but it's getting better now!

[lou_fine]

10 hours ago, mattn792 said:

12 hours ago, Mikey C said:

Last night Steve Borock went onto Economics in Comics YouTube channel (the most immature 'influencer' on YT). Steve mentioned how CBCS cases are one-and-done / never need reslabbing and that CGC cases have to be changed out every 8-10 years because they don't let the book "breathe". I was taken back because I never heard this and he quickly moved on to something else. Has anyone heard this before? Is Steve correct?

So let's recap - per Borock, company Borock used to be affiliated with substandard, company Borock now affiliated with superior.

GTFOH.

Well, this is for the newbies here who obviously were not around when Steve was in charge of CGC.  

Although this is probably the first time I remember him pointing this out about the CGC slabs since he's gone to the new company, he actually brought up this same point on a regular ongoing basis when he was with CGC.  Especially in terms of the need to change out the microchamber paper every 7 years or thereabouts.