Contributors to the slow turn around times at CGC 7 7

[onlyweaknesskryptonite]

On 4/4/2022 at 3:25 PM, Lord Gemini said:

Thanks for the input, ye of seven posts. Welcome to the ignore list.

That is kinda pointless.  

Meet Stu.

He has been around here for a long time.

He creates more shills than most here will ever post. 

Blocking any of those accounts is futile.  Infinite more are waiting just behind the next ban.

[Lord Gemini]

On 4/4/2022 at 3:32 PM, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

That is kinda pointless.  

Meet Stu.

He has been around here for a long time.

He creates more shills than most here will ever post. 

Blocking any of those accounts is futile.  Infinite more are waiting just behind the next ban.

What a way to go through life. Ha ha.

[onlyweaknesskryptonite]

On 4/4/2022 at 3:48 PM, Nightmare Fuel said:

He's met me. When you're as much of a bellend as he is, you get my attention. I troll the trolls 

Run enough roads, you are bound to hit some bumps.

[onlyweaknesskryptonite]

On 4/4/2022 at 3:54 PM, Nightmare Fuel said:

It's like driving through Rhode Island around here 

[Sigur Ros]

On 4/4/2022 at 3:09 PM, Lazyboy said:

No, it's objectively wasteful. If you don't like the truth, that's too bad, but it's not going to change for you.

There is no truth involved at all.  It's wasteful to you.  Period.  Not sure why that is so hard to grasp.

If I send 20 Bloodshot #1's in for grading, aside from offending you, how is this a problem?

If you're claiming it's "wasteful" because a book that cost $2.80 a pop off the shelf, plus an $18 grading fee (is it more now? yea, it's probably more now) is not worth the amount you'd make if sold (which could be the only possible thing you mean), it's only a waste if the customer considers it a waste.  

Doubling down on the elitism....after claiming it's not elitism.  Brilliant.

 

[THE_BEYONDER]

On 4/4/2022 at 4:48 PM, Nightmare Fuel said:

I troll the trolls 

[revat]

On 4/4/2022 at 3:05 PM, Nightmare Fuel said:

On 4/4/2022 at 2:36 PM, Sigur Ros said:

There is no truth involved at all.  It's wasteful to you.  Period.  Not sure why that is so hard to grasp.

If I send 20 Bloodshot #1's in for grading, aside from offending you, how is this a problem?

If you're claiming it's "wasteful" because a book that cost $2.80 a pop off the shelf, plus an $18 grading fee (is it more now? yea, it's probably more now) is not worth the amount you'd make if sold (which could be the only possible thing you mean), it's only a waste if the customer considers it a waste.  

Doubling down on the elitism....after claiming it's not elitism.  Brilliant.

 

Do you understand what the word "objectively" means?

sure seems like he understands

[Bird]

On 4/4/2022 at 3:53 PM, Lord Gemini said:

If I get enjoyment out of it, it's not wasteful.

thats what Onan said

[Wheresmymarvelvaluestamp]

On 3/4/2022 at 8:31 AM, Domo Arigato said:

PSA (the sports collectible industry's largest grading service) and Beckett (the second-largest card-grading company) both suspended their services last year in order to get control over their turn around times.  I believe PSA completely suspended all submissions, and Beckett shut down their Economy, Standard, and Express tiers, and were only accepting submissions at their Premium tier.

Also, both WATA and VGA currently have several of their tiers for video game grading suspended in order to get things under control as well.  WATA has closed its Select tier for both sealed and Complete-In-Box (open) games....as well as its Turbo tier for C.I.B. games only.  VGA has closed both its Economy and Express tiers.....and is accepting submissions only under their Premium and Archival tiers.

 

C'mon, CGC is now co-owned by Jay-Z. He has 99 Problems but turnaround times ain't one.

[Lord Gemini]

On 4/4/2022 at 3:48 PM, Nightmare Fuel said:

He's met me. When you're as much of a bellend as he is, you get my attention. I troll the trolls 

 

On 4/4/2022 at 5:54 PM, Nightmare Fuel said:

He understands subjective, not objective.

Clearly you understand neither. You've been reported by the way. Get your next account ready. Maybe you'll grow up by then.

Edited April 4, 2022 by Lord Gemini

[theCapraAegagrus]

On 4/4/2022 at 4:32 PM, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

That is kinda pointless.  

Meet Stu.

He has been around here for a long time.

He creates more shills than most here will ever post.

He's also infinitely more knowledgeable than the poster who is 'ignoring' him.

[Darkseid of the Moon]

What if CGC were to open another Grading Facility?

I have never sent in a submission to CGC yet, because of the TAT's and Shipping Expenses from West coast to East Coast.

If another Grading Facility was on the West Coast (I.E. Texas, Nevada, Oregon, California, Colorado, etc.), I think CGC would get more Revenue from increased subs, while also being able to take a burden off of the Florida Facility.

Basically a win-win scenario for both CGC & Us.  Only hard part would be training new graders, Staff, Logistics, etc...

What does Everyone else think about the idea of another Grading Facility?

Edited April 7, 2022 by Darkseid of the Moon

[MetalPSI]

On 3/3/2022 at 1:42 PM, Colin Nash said:

I have seen and heard a lot about the slow turn around times at CGC and for many of us, its not how things used to be.

CGC clearly have too much work post Covid and taking on more people in such a specialised and customer sensitive business can't be easy. I would however, say that there are certain people out there who don't help the situation at all by sending in 20, 30, 50, comics at a time and then, complain about the quality of service and grades they get.

Just browse Youtube and you will see them sitting next to huge piles of their newly returned submissions.

eg. Comic Book Investments

      Mint Hunter Comics

If you scale this up across the market, no wonder it takes so long for CGC to process the submissions. People such as these, are hogging the process and clogging the CGC system to the detrement of other users.

My answer to them is, be more responsible and stop submitting 100's of comics to CGC. You just might bring about a better and quicker service for everyone ?

I read Milf Hunter instead of Mint Hunter 

[Sweet Lou 14]

It's not about opening more facilities, according to what I've been told.  They literally have shortages of the machines used for pressing and encapsulation, and indications are that they don't have a great plan for getting more.  I've heard stories of cannibalizing old machines for parts to keep the existing ones running.

On top of that, they have a problem hiring and retaining personnel.  Which is one thing for the people who need to be physically on site to do the receiving / pressing / grading / encapsulation / shipping ... but quite another when their customer service and accounting departments, which could be staffed remotely, are woefully understaffed and recruiting only from the shallow pool of Sarasota, FL.

Somebody with real logistical and operational chops needs to take over and reinvent that whole business.

[MetalPSI]

On 4/7/2022 at 2:10 PM, Sweet Lou 14 said:

It's not about opening more facilities, according to what I've been told.  They literally have shortages of the machines used for pressing and encapsulation, and indications are that they don't have a great plan for getting more.  I've heard stories of cannibalizing old machines for parts to keep the existing ones running.

On top of that, they have a problem hiring and retaining personnel.  Which is one thing for the people who need to be physically on site to do the receiving / pressing / grading / encapsulation / shipping ... but quite another when their customer service and accounting departments, which could be staffed remotely, are woefully understaffed and recruiting only from the shallow pool of Sarasota, FL.

Somebody with real logistical and operational chops needs to take over and reinvent that whole business.

Which is what you have with Blackstone, a corporation 

[ELAVAL]

I can open a facility in Canada. This way, I will be able to save money for the shipping and also Customs. 🙂

[wombat]

On 4/7/2022 at 2:34 PM, Darkseid of the Moon said:

What if CGC were to open another Grading Facility?

I have never sent in a submission to CGC yet, because of the TAT's and Shipping Expenses from West coast to East Coast.

If another Grading Facility was on the West Coast (I.E. Texas, Nevada, Oregon, California, Colorado, etc.), I think CGC would get more Revenue from increased subs, while also being able to take a burden off of the Florida Facility.

Basically a win-win scenario for both CGC & Us.  Only hard part would be training new graders, Staff, Logistics, etc...

What does Everyone else think about the idea of another Grading Facility?

They don't have enough resources for one facility. This would probably actually makes things worse. 

[ExNihilo]

On 4/7/2022 at 11:34 AM, Darkseid of the Moon said:

I have never sent in a submission to CGC yet, because of the TAT's and Shipping Expenses from West coast to East Coast.

Depending on how much you're shipping, shipping costs are going to be the same whether you ship to the West coast or the East coast.  I admit, I don't send in many books, maybe upwards of 6 at a time.  It goes in a USPS flat rate box.  That flat rate box is going to be the same price whether I ship it 10 miles or 1000.

Maybe you're a reseller and you're shipping 100 books a month.  In that case I would think your charges are passed on to the customer and it doesn't matter much.  Plus you've probably got an account worked out with the courier for discounted rates.

[Gaard]

Yeah, I think it's the same cost whether you're in CA or MD. (USPS anyways).

 

Unless you're talking about shipping TO CGC

Edited April 7, 2022 by Gaard

[Sweet Lou 14]

On 4/7/2022 at 5:14 PM, The Meta said:

Which is what you have with Blackstone, a corporation 

Yeah, that was the theory.  In practice, they have not responded to the challenge.  It's embarrassing.