Have you ever seen a book get damage inside a case? 0

[do-boy99]

This book was shipped form FL to CA. 
Packed well, double boxed. The case is not cracked.
Can the book shift inside the case and get damaged?
 Here are the before and after pics.

[chrisco37]

Yes.  Here on the boards it’s known as “SCS” (shaken comics syndrome).  It’s happened numerous times over the years.  

[Ken Aldred]

Easily.  Case could survive a bad impact in transit apparently undamaged, as with my first CGC board purchase, a 9.6 Harbinger 1.  The impact detached the cover completely from the staples, but the case wasn't even slightly cracked. Extreme SCS.

Edited March 26, 2022 by Ken Aldred

[shadroch]

All that matters is the purty 9.8 label. Don't sweat the details. 

[Robert Doggett]

Sent in a Thanos 13 and it came back loose in the case.  Sent it back immediately to get fixed with notes all over it and it came back the exact same way.  The book literally shifts about an inch inside the case.  
It graded at a 9.4 so will sell it at a show at 9.0/9.2 price.

[THE_BEYONDER]

Looks like the LRC took a hit as well 

[shadroch]

On 3/26/2022 at 8:41 AM, Robert Doggett said:

Sent in a Thanos 13 and it came back loose in the case.  Sent it back immediately to get fixed with notes all over it and it came back the exact same way.  The book literally shifts about an inch inside the case.  
It graded at a 9.4 so will sell it at a show at 9.0/9.2 price.

Price it at a 9.6 ,but be flexible. It's how the kool kids roll.

[Robert Doggett]

On 3/26/2022 at 12:59 PM, shadroch said:

Price it at a 9.6 ,but be flexible. It's how the kool kids roll.

Like another boarder here stated, the cover is starting to come loose from the staples so the pages are sliding 1/8-1/4 in from the cover. 
I couldn’t price it at 9.6 AND be able to sleep at night. LOL

Edited March 26, 2022 by Robert Doggett

[do-boy99]

Thank you guys for the info.

I appreciate it.

[William-James88]

On 3/26/2022 at 11:28 AM, do-boy99 said:

This book was shipped form FL to CA. 
Packed well, double boxed. The case is not cracked.
Can the book shift inside the case and get damaged?
 Here are the before and after pics.

Yes it can, this is a common issue. It means that there are potentially a bunch of CGC 9.8s out there that are not actually that grade.

[Robot Man]

Buy the book, not the slab…

[estrellmamone2]

On 3/26/2022 at 5:28 PM, do-boy99 said:

This book was shipped form FL to CA. 
Packed well, double boxed. The case is not cracked.
Can the book shift inside the case and get damaged?
 Here are the before and after pics.

I've seen a lot and I can tell you that it happens very often. Maybe the book is damaged inside, or maybe the case itself. I recently ordered myself a book "and the earth did not devour him", it arrived completely wrinkled, then I used https://freebooksummary.com/category/and-the-earth-did-not-devour-him for it. Since I didn't have time to wait for it to be replaced. So I think this won't be your last case, although I don't wish it for you at all. You just have to ask for better packaging.

I had exactly the same thing!

Edited December 13, 2022 by estrellmamone2

[Krismusic]

Yup classic shaken comic syndrome. SCS one of the worst things…. 

[THE_BEYONDER]

On 12/9/2022 at 10:47 AM, Krismusic said:

Yup classic shaken comic syndrome. SCS one of the worst things…. 

Can’t tell you how many slabs I’ve had to pass on because the books clearly suffered post-slabbing damage.  I miss the early days of CGC when I still believed that once a book was encapsulated, it’s grade would be preserved.  I remember wanting to buy a 10.0 ASM 36(911 issue), but once I discovered SCS....I felt the book probably couldn’t even get shipped to me without sustaining damage. 
 

 

[Tec-Tac-Toe]

On 12/9/2022 at 10:47 AM, Krismusic said:

Yup classic shaken comic syndrome. SCS one of the worst things…. 

I have seen some "impressive" SCS. Thankfully, I have been lucky and, thus far, avoided them.

[THE_BEYONDER]

The very slab that CGC sells to “preserve” your comics....causing damage to the books themselves.  
 

That’s a pretty sad state of affairs.

[Yorick]

I have a few "shaken" books, but what really sucks is that one of my favorite books has developed a spine split at the top edge.  I'm guessing the pressure of the inner well must be causing it.  I can't think of any other reason for the spine to split.  It's a "9.8", of course.

[oldmilwaukee6er]

100x yes. SCS, the creep engine, static, shards, indents, Newton rings, staple rust ... I've learned the hard way that 'getting' & 'keeping' a 9.8 comic are two entirely different things. 

[Sigur Ros]

On 12/15/2022 at 2:04 AM, oldmilwaukee6er said:

100x yes. SCS, the creep engine, static, shards, indents, Newton rings, staple rust ... I've learned the hard way that 'getting' & 'keeping' a 9.8 comic are two entirely different things. 

They're way behind updating their slabs.  Not sure why they.  Should add it to the list of other things they're catching up on.

 

[alexgross.com]

pinching corners is a fairly common bummer that happens with many cgc books. this was a 9.2 but not with those corners.