Upgrayedd2 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I recently received a second chance offer from eBay for an item, I didn't win. I was the second highest bidder. Turns out, the person who won (I'll refer to them as Buyer-A), didn't have the money to pay. The seller, an established business, extended an offer to purchase the comic at the bid amount I entered before I lost, not at the amount Buyer-A won with. Here are the facts: the only person who bid above me was Buyer-A. And I increased my bid 2 times, technically 3 times. Let me explain: Me: bid $500 Me: bid $600 because I really wanted the item Buyer-A: outbids me Me: bid $620 - eBay says I need to bid higher Me: bid $630 - eBay says I need to bid higher Buyer-A: wins at $640 The seller is offering my the price of $630. I (actually my ego) is inclined to turn it down and ask for a lower price. At lease at the point Buyer-A started bidding. Or, if I want to be somewhat unreasonable, my first bid of $500 since the only person who bid afterwards was Buyer-A. All advice welcomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post grendelbo Posted April 26 Popular Post Share Posted April 26 (edited) I wouldn't accept the offer. I would counter-offer your initial bid or the most you're comfortable paying for the book. The seller doesn't like it then they can relist. Seems a little sketchy to me. Edited April 26 by grendelbo allthingskryptonite, steveinthecity, Turnando and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Bat Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Total sketch. Upgrayedd2, Funnybooks and Mojohand 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The lips Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Absolutely offer your opening bid or what you feel right. If not accepted I’m sure it’ll just re-list anyway Upgrayedd2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spideyham Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 If the book is under GPA then why not purchase it, especially if you really like the book. Given the number of new deadbeats on ebay not paying, you're probably going to lose out on a good item, especially if the seller is reputable. Counter offering him may very well lose you the deal. If it were me, I would take the deal if all I mentioned applies. KCOComics and Upgrayedd2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lightning55 Posted April 26 Popular Post Share Posted April 26 This happens to me now and then, getting a 2nd chance offer after a non-paying bidder bales out. It's a weird situation. I usually message the seller and explain that the auction was tainted due to the non-paying bidder illegitimately causing the bids to increase. No one knows what the true outcome was supposed to be. The problem you have now is that the seller knows you were willing to pay $630. On a relist, he could easily have someone shill the bid to $620, knowing you will come in at $630. So you are still paying $630 if you want it. Most times there is no good resolution to this. On a relist, if you bid even $550, you will probably be outbid. Either legitimately, or not. Knowing all this, it boils down to whether you really should spend $630 on that item. If not, take your chances on a relist. You may not win, but maybe another will come along. Mojohand, Juno Beach, Upgrayedd2 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojohand Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Suspicious but buy the book if it's a fair deal in your eyes. Upgrayedd2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spideyham Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) On 4/26/2022 at 2:20 AM, Lightning55 said: This happens to me now and then, getting a 2nd chance offer after a non-paying bidder bales out. It's a weird situation. I usually message the seller and explain that the auction was tainted due to the non-paying bidder illegitimately causing the bids to increase. No one knows what the true outcome was supposed to be. The problem you have now is that the seller knows you were willing to pay $630. On a relist, he could easily have someone shill the bid to $620, knowing you will come in at $630. So you are still paying $630 if you want it. Most times there is no good resolution to this. On a relist, if you bid even $550, you will probably be outbid. Either legitimately, or not. Knowing all this, it boils down to whether you really should spend $630 on that item. If not, take your chances on a relist. You may not win, but maybe another will come along. And what if the seller doesn't relist knowing that the market is hot now. He may decide to hold off, especially if it's a key book under GPA. May be a case of, you snooze, you lose. Edited April 26 by Spideyham Upgrayedd2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poekaymon Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Depends on the actual value of the book aside from these shenanigans. But generally, as a buyer, I'd expect a discount off of my last bid. As a seller, I'd be willing to go a little under the bidder's last bid. In this case, $600 seems fine. Upgrayedd2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upgrayedd2 Posted April 26 Author Share Posted April 26 Thank you all for the advice. I do not believe there was any malice on the seller's part. I provided the same explanation above and counter-offered with my original bid amount. I added that if they did not accept it, I would completely understand and hold no ill will. Let's see what happens. Raze, Point Five and Cat 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Point Five Posted April 26 Popular Post Share Posted April 26 This is how the Second Chance Offer has always worked. Unless you're convinced that Buyer A is a total shill, I don't see the issue. The argument that only you and Buyer A were willing to bid above $500 is reasonable, but (to play devil's advocate) if I'm the seller that's maybe not super compelling. It's quite possible there were other bidders who would have chased the book up past $600 like you did, but saw it was already there and withheld their bids. Or someone may have thrown in a last-second bid of $625, but it wasn't able to register since the book had already jumped an increment higher. jsilverjanet, ttfitz, Funnybooks and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 scammy...hard pass Chief1332 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsid Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Sounds like SHILL bidding ebay is crazy with it and there's nothing anyone can do about it, seller has another account and bids up the auction once he see's there's another interested party if the interested party stops bidding and doesn't BITE for the higher bid it's always the winner failed to bid or decided he didn't want it. I get these offers all the time it's a complete joke 1 outta 10 might be legit. Funnybooks, B2D327 and Turnando 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I fell into a sus bidding trap before. Wanted to spend only $350, but was bid up to $4-something. Second chance was $380, IIRC. I bought it, but I wish I could have declined based on principle. It's not a common book, so I didn't really have the luxury of turning it down at the time. Funnybooks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Seller price discovered your max bid and is using it against you..stay clear out of principle $.02 B2D327 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy Joe Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 many books out there to buy, why involve yourself with possible bs find another book/seller Funnybooks, mysterymachine and B2D327 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jsilverjanet Posted April 26 Popular Post Share Posted April 26 (edited) From a sellers perspective as this has happened to me multiple times i send the 2nd chance offer since you’ve told me what you were willing to pay - that’s your max bid if you don’t want to pay it, that’s fine, I’ll relist. I’m only offering it because you expressed interest in the item and bid on it sometimes it’s that plain and simple, nothing nefarious Edited April 26 by jsilverjanet RockMyAmadeus, rjpb, D84 and 9 others 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axelrod Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 The answer to the title question is: Not reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsilverjanet Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 The book and price for context is always needed Funnybooks and rjpb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 On 4/26/2022 at 8:38 AM, jsilverjanet said: From a sellers perspective as this has happened to me multiple times i send the 2nd chance offer since you’ve told me what you were willing to pay - that’s your max bid if you don’t want to pay it, that’s fine, I’ll relist. I’m only offering it because you expressed interest in the item and bid on it sometimes it’s that plain and simple, nothing nefarious what happens in a scenario where the winning bidder is also the third bidder right below the underbidder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
