Buzzetta Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 On 6/20/2022 at 9:38 AM, KingOfRulers said: I've never watched one of the claim shows, and have no interest. I don't understand the appeal of the concept. I just want to buy original art. Having to schedule my evening around being available to sit through one of the shows to see 25 or so pieces would be such a hassle. Very time inefficient. I'd love for the dealers to post the items on their websites so that I can decide within 30 seconds if any of the offerings are of interest to me. I don't want to sit around for an hour or more in hopes of something being offered that I'm interested in. The thing is that you have live haggling and they sometimes offer things prior to putting it up on the website. I believe it is a spinoff from what was going on with Facebook in certain toy groups with live claim sales. Those live claim sales for vintage action figures have proven to be VERY successful. Since it is sold, I have no problem showing the piece I wanted... Every few days I do a search with Comic Art Tracker for Marvel Indiana Jones art. I like getting the last page of the issues as Indiana Jones was designed to be a serial I like that "coming next" blurb with either the conclusion to a storyline or a cliffhanger. Burkey had apparently sold this piece over the YouTube Dueling Comic Dealer show. I somehow missed it. At least by my searches with Comic Art Tracker, it had never appeared in any searches until a few days before the 'episode' and I noticed it too late. However, you can't have them all and I am okay with that. No great loss. I am happy with what I have. Point is though, they do offer some fun stuff in the shows. Catwoman_Fan and cloud cloddie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick2you2 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 On 6/19/2022 at 9:38 PM, grapeape said: I feel for you so much I make it a point to ask about PS art everywhere I go. If I find it and it’s reasonable I’ll let ya know. 👍 Always appreciated, particularly if you let me know before someone else gets it (told too late, which has happened). Don't waste your time with Aparo or Adams, or anything from Trinity of Sin (ever). I can't draw worth spit. So, in moments of boredom, I've actually taken to writing new story synopses. And, there are the occasional non-PS purchases... grapeape 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cloud cloddie Posted June 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2022 When DD first started, I’d see stuff in my wheelhouse start popping up on CAF galleries attributed to the show. Watched maybe 15-20 shows after that. I thought the prices were high for the stuff I liked, and not at all a fan of having to decide in two seconds if I wanted it. Every episode took slightly longer to get through; partly because less and less would sell so the recaps took longer, and partly because the ‘funny’ clips got longer. Collectors continually talk about watching the shows for the entertainment. I find the ‘funny’ bits pretty cringe. The art is talked more about price than merit. There’s continually comments that are pretty misogynistic, homophobic and just questionable. And collectors getting exited about DD trading cards is just bizarre to me. Dealmakers I watched a few. That was just a joke. Bechara’s prices weren’t insane, but nothing of interest to me. So much of what Glen offered had deja vu, and the prices were laughable. So I just don’t watch any of them anymore, besides from the occasional amateur one an acquaintance is on. Less than 5% of my collection is from dealers, and my opinion hasn’t improved of any of them since watching. But hey - if you’re into it, you do you. Will_K, Buzzetta, Catwoman_Fan and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vodou Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 On 6/20/2022 at 11:06 AM, Rick2you2 said: And, there are the occasional non-PS purchases... Oh man... John E. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_K Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 On 6/20/2022 at 3:01 PM, vodou said: Oh man... But still keeping an eye out for Phantom Stranger art ! ! vodou, John E. and Rick2you2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick2you2 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 On 6/20/2022 at 3:01 PM, vodou said: Oh man... Flying pig, by Jason Shawn Alexander. John E. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC25427N Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 No, I like them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIL0S Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 On 6/19/2022 at 8:21 AM, wurstisart said: I am more than tired of them and even more that dealers use this instead of updating their websites and if they update the sites it shows all the items that will be on sale at the show. Honestly I don’t have the time to watch these shows. I prefer a solid dealer website update instead. Are the shows fun and extremely well done, absolutely. Kudos to Bill and the dealers, but as I said, give me a website update instead. I am buying comic art for 25 years now and have bought zero from any of these shows. yup, this sums it up perfectly . I'd also prefer a website update over having to sit through an hour + long show to see a handful of pieces. I've never bought from a 'claim show' and my last couple of new pieces have come from Heritage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drummy Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Agree with much of the above -- unless you've got a lot of money and a fair amount of leisure time to just hang out watching these shows, they're kind of a drag. I've seen a few and found them either rather boring (Glen and Bechara in particular felt uninspired) or just 'zany'/weird. And watching website updates that have everything already listed as 'sold' or 'on hold' due to the previous show only provides a second dose of annoyance. Of the many shows I've missed, only one piece showed up for sale that I would have gone for -- Mike Burkey's Ghost Rider #18 cover -- but even then, I would have needed 10 months of time payments to buy it! So...nothing really lost there. Suffice to say I miss the days of big website updates where everything was actually for sale and had a price on it. Dan cloud cloddie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_K Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) On 6/21/2022 at 7:53 AM, Drummy said: Of the many shows I've missed, only one piece showed up for sale that I would have gone for -- Mike Burkey's Ghost Rider #18 cover -- but even then, I would have needed 10 months of time payments to buy it! So...nothing really lost there. You mean something that is especially desirable to you, a spontaneous big purchase based on a relatively small scan and not a lot of time to decide ? On Dueling Dealers, Mike and Anthony will take time payments on "sizable" purchases. It's pretty much assumed. But you should mention that you'll need time payments when claiming / haggling. In case of a tie, a claim with "payment in full" trumps those with time payments. I think Mike mentioned he likes 6 months. But you could've asked about stretching to 10 months. Don't recall if it's been stated on Dealmakers but I guess the same follows. Edited June 21, 2022 by Will_K John E. and spidey300 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kbmcvay Posted June 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2022 On 6/20/2022 at 9:49 PM, MIL0S said: yup, this sums it up perfectly . I'd also prefer a website update over having to sit through an hour + long show to see a handful of pieces. I've never bought from a 'claim show' and my last couple of new pieces have come from Heritage. You know what would also be great? If dealers updated their websites to actually remove stuff marked as "sold" instead of having it sit on there for years on end. Xatari, Buzzetta, John E. and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadeGiant Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 I would not say I am "tired" of them. I don't watch as many as I used to because time is seemingly always a factor. It's another avenue to buy art - I have no problem with that. I have added some pieces to my collection, including a page from an issue I had been seeking for a long time. The show does press the FOMO button so you need to be aware of what you really want so you don't buy too much on impulse. Twanj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John E. Posted June 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2022 On 6/21/2022 at 6:53 AM, Drummy said: Suffice to say I miss the days of big website updates where everything was actually for sale and had a price on it. Dan Isn’t crazy how something technologically modern as the website has been relegated to the status of the flip phone? The hobby went from “could buy only at science fiction conventions” to catalogs to CBG to fax machines, then websites, to now claim shows. I’m amazed I stayed in the hobby long enough to see one of these selling transitions and now a future generation of collectors is going to trip out that I used set a timer for Felix’s art drop so I can log on to a website and refresh and refresh the same way I tripped out on collectors paying a premium to rush order their CBG and placing a phone order during designated hours. vodou, Will_K, RBerman and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vodou Posted June 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2022 On 6/21/2022 at 10:07 AM, JadeGiant said: The show does press the FOMO button... Because there aren't enough ways to spend in this hobby already? I dunno about the rest of you but -for me- there is always more art I like/want right this moment than there is immediate personal liquidity to purchase. Me? No FOMO issues at all cloud cloddie, BCarter27, Mighty Hal and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_K Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Re: a previous comment about the running time for claim shows On 6/21/2022 at 10:12 AM, John E. said: Felix’s art drop and those other dealers that do the similar (e.g. Albert), those art drops are the ultimate in fast moving claim shows. John E. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New School Fool Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 On 6/21/2022 at 5:38 PM, Will_K said: and those other dealers that do the similar (e.g. Albert), those art drops are the ultimate in fast moving claim shows. There's a difference somewhat. Felix and Albert now give a preview of what will be available during the drop. At least you can decide whether it's worth your time to "attend". Even without the preview, during the drop you can spend 10 minutes glancing over the art to decide whether there's anything you want or not. What I dislike about the claim shows and why I stopped watching them is that there's no art preview, and I'm forced to sit through hours of bad jokes and theatrics just to see that the art isn't what I'd go for anyway. They're essentially a waste of time, and I'd often wish they'd get to the point. I know a lot of you have it on in the background while doing other things. For us Europeans, it eats into precious sleep time and I've come to realise that they're not worth staying up for. Twanj and cloud cloddie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick2you2 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 On 6/21/2022 at 10:15 AM, vodou said: Because there aren't enough ways to spend in this hobby already? I dunno about the rest of you but -for me- there is always more art I like/want right this moment than there is immediate personal liquidity to purchase. Me? No FOMO issues at all I wish... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xatari Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 I used to watch, but I lost interest. The types of pieces I'm after really wouldn't show up in these shows. I get why they exist, and I understand the idea of hanging out with friends in a chat. Not for me, but I don't mind they exist other than what others have state... dealers and reps, please update your sites. It's getting really bad and very unprofessional. That is your craft, take some pride in it, and I promise you will see an uptick in sales. marktom and John E. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick2you2 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Were there any buyers last night? I tuned in near the end, and if I read the screen correctly, nothing was sold after the first 5 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xatari Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 I'd imagine a lot of dealer/buyers were at Heroes setting up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
