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[CGC Mike]

We appreciate everyone being patient with our follow-up regarding the Clayton Crain acetate covers. After discussions this past week, CGC will assign a Qualified Signature Series label to comics that contain an acetate cover by Mr. Crain, as well as his signature that has been witnessed by a CGC representative. This also applies to the Ultimate Fallout: Facsimile Edition #4 that sold in C2E2. The grade assigned will take into consideration the grade of the acetate cover as well as the interior book.  For members who have already submitted copies of the Ultimate Fallout issue to CGC, we will extend an opportunity to have Mr. Crain’s signature applied to their copies so they receive the Qualified Signature Series label. If a copy does not exhibit Mr. Crain’s witnessed signature, the book will receive a qualified grade. 

Going forward, CGC will only certify artist-created covers that are first approved by CGC, and those covers must be signed by the artist through the Signature Series program to receive the Qualified Signature Series label. The cover must be created by a published artist.

[BDubs]

"Double cover" graded it is.  My inquiry has been answered in a satisfactory response.  Thank you. 

[Ninja0215]

Ty cgc Mike! This is a proper response.  👍☝️

[Buzzetta]

[ADAMANTIUM]

On 8/22/2022 at 4:17 PM, Ninja0215 said:

Ty cgc Mike! This is a proper response.  👍☝️

+1

[Ninja0215]

Sooooo we're back????? ......

[MetalPSI]

Well it makes sense, so a step in the right direction 

So, does this mean copies that have already been graded will be struck from the registry and require a reholder to be considered valid?

[mattn792]

Finally, GLOD's for this frankencrap.

Though I do find that I'm still wondering how 10 copies of three different books mutilated by acetate managed to get the exact same grade distribution, including mint grades.

[jcjames]

Good news and progress on this issue! 

 

[jcjames]

On 8/22/2022 at 2:48 PM, The Meta said:

Well it makes sense, so a step in the right direction 

So, does this mean copies that have already been graded will be struck from the registry and require a reholder to be considered valid?

Good question. All those 9.9s and 10s are just

 

 

[wormboy]

Great news, thanks Mike.

[stippy52]

Thanks for the update Mike

[troydivision1]

Unless the blue labels are recalled (and removed from the census / registry) they will now demand a higher premium with this news.

Marvel controversy + CGC controversy + scarcity = $$$

My question is -
When will CGC learn from their mistakes and hire a PR / Marketing director that handles these very specific vendor related issues (Bad Idea & Black Flag)?

[CameronWV]

Good stuff CGC. You've restored a little faith that i had lost 

[southern cross]

On 8/22/2022 at 1:57 PM, CGC Mike said:

We appreciate everyone being patient with our follow-up regarding the Clayton Crain acetate covers. After discussions this past week, CGC will assign a Qualified Signature Series label to comics that contain an acetate cover by Mr. Crain, as well as his signature that has been witnessed by a CGC representative. This also applies to the Ultimate Fallout: Facsimile Edition #4 that sold in C2E2. The grade assigned will take into consideration the grade of the acetate cover as well as the interior book.  For members who have already submitted copies of the Ultimate Fallout issue to CGC, we will extend an opportunity to have Mr. Crain’s signature applied to their copies so they receive the Qualified Signature Series label. If a copy does not exhibit Mr. Crain’s witnessed signature, the book will receive a qualified grade. 

Going forward, CGC will only certify artist-created covers that are first approved by CGC, and those covers must be signed by the artist through the Signature Series program to receive the Qualified Signature Series label. The cover must be created by an published artist.

[Axelrod]

Credit where credit is due, this at least recognizes and addresses 1/2 the issues raised. 

Radio silence as to how the books got the numerical grades they got  in the first place continues, but that was pretty much always going to be the case.

[Buzzetta]

Good to hear that CGC is doing the right thing especially after reading what the competition did to one of their biggest submitters, Clan McDonald Comics, breaking the chain of custody on 367 books and losing them. 

[THE_BEYONDER]

On 8/22/2022 at 4:57 PM, CGC Mike said:

We appreciate everyone being patient with our follow-up regarding the Clayton Crain acetate covers. After discussions this past week, CGC will assign a Qualified Signature Series label to comics that contain an acetate cover by Mr. Crain, as well as his signature that has been witnessed by a CGC representative. This also applies to the Ultimate Fallout: Facsimile Edition #4 that sold in C2E2. The grade assigned will take into consideration the grade of the acetate cover as well as the interior book.  For members who have already submitted copies of the Ultimate Fallout issue to CGC, we will extend an opportunity to have Mr. Crain’s signature applied to their copies so they receive the Qualified Signature Series label. If a copy does not exhibit Mr. Crain’s witnessed signature, the book will receive a qualified grade. 

Going forward, CGC will only certify artist-created covers that are first approved by CGC, and those covers must be signed by the artist through the Signature Series program to receive the Qualified Signature Series label. The cover must be created by a published artist.

All I see is “Qualified Signature Series label”....over and over.

What does that have to do with anything? 

The books in question were all Universal blue labels, with an impossible ratio of 9.9s & 10s.

If I’m reading this response correctly,  you’re saying that going forward CGC will give these ACETATE UF 4s a qualified label.

What about all the Blue label copies already in the marketplace?

[MGH]

On 8/23/2022 at 8:05 AM, Axelrod said:

Credit where credit is due, this at least recognizes and addresses 1/2 the issues raised. 

Radio silence as to how the books got the numerical grades they got  in the first place continues, but that was pretty much always going to be the case.

I believe this statement addresses that 

"The grade assigned will take into consideration the grade of the acetate cover as well as the interior book" 

 

The way I read this,  those books were not graded this way..  Ie,  only graded cover 

 

[THE_BEYONDER]

On 8/22/2022 at 8:39 PM, MGH said:

I believe this statement addresses that 

"The grade assigned will take into consideration the grade of the acetate cover as well as the interior book" 

 

The way I read this,  those books were not graded this way..  Ie,  only graded cover 

 

So the qualified label is simply to ignore the new staple holes?  Being an after market modification, I think it would make more sense to ignore the acetate cover altogether, along with the damage caused by applying it.  Just grade the book underneath, and that’s the qualified grade.