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ASM #252 CGC 9.8 Record Sale - something fishy going on? - Holder Tampering Incident confirmed by CGC
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Sweet Lou 14

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On 1/6/2024 at 12:42 PM, MasterChief said:

This is one of the best posts in the thread. Especially for those of us late to the party. Anyone know if a follow-on recap like this has been done?
 

 

 

Truly appreciate you for pointing this out and @brute_nm for posting all that in the first place.  Hugely helpful.

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On 1/6/2024 at 8:10 AM, MasterChief said:

Yes, those two books appear to be the same when comparing both front and back covers.

Amending my comment, thanks to @RockMyAmadeus, the books do not/not appear to be the same.

OH, and BTW... I got a PM from DD. He said to meet him under the bridge if I didn’t change my comment. He added this to his PM...

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I have been following this thread since the beginning and all of the detective work people have been doing pouring over years of sales, images and cert numbers is quite impressive.  There are truly some of the world's greatest detectives active on this forum.

Thank you for doing all the hard work for me so I don't have to :shiftyeyes: Too soon?

 

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On 1/6/2024 at 1:20 PM, mr_highgrade said:

Yes, that's his MO.

I looked at a bunch of the seller's listings.  Almost all seem to have 'c.t.' or 'trim' buried in the item specifics section, and purposely vague (like c.t. not spelled out). 

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On 1/6/2024 at 1:09 PM, agamoto said:
On 1/6/2024 at 9:59 AM, pdags said:

**** Can someone help verify ****

kellysuperhoroes Fantastic Four 4 looks a lot like Briva3's Fantastic Four 4...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/186238407258

https://www.ebay.com/itm/285549202720

 

The tear... the "marvel tear" Not present in Kelly version

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Also, look at the bottom edge of the book where the wave is at under the letter "A."  The kellysuperheroes copy has 2 dots.  The CGC graded copy as 3 black dots. Different copies in my opinion.

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On 1/6/2024 at 9:54 AM, Sweet Lou 14 said:
On 1/6/2024 at 7:42 AM, MasterChief said:

This is one of the best posts in the thread. Especially for those of us late to the party. Anyone know if a follow-on recap like this has been done?

 

 

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Truly appreciate you for pointing this out and @brute_nm for posting all that in the first place.  Hugely helpful.

NP... and the image below is a great visual to capture interest and encourage understanding of the process. Props to whoever created it!  :golfclap:


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Is there a master list of all the book we believe Briva3 has touched?  I found a FF4 on WorthPoint that I think is Briva3, but would prefer to not post about it if it's already been noted somewhere.

Also, if you have a WorthPoint subscription, can you see more information regarding this sale?

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/fantastic-four-cgc-5-1st-silver-sub-2042389527

Note, I don't believe this to be the same FF4 we were discussing earlier.

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The grading notes match the 7.5 White page copy scans pretty well.

Note the missing back cover pieces.

https://www.cgccomics.com/certlookup/4343218005/

This may have been a book that he only did his own C/P.

The change from OW to white pages is also not impossible.

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On 1/6/2024 at 5:33 PM, pdags said:

Is there a master list of all the book we believe Briva3 has touched?  I found a FF4 on WorthPoint that I think is Briva3, but would prefer to not post about it if it's already been noted somewhere.

Also, if you have a WorthPoint subscription, can you see more information regarding this sale?

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/fantastic-four-cgc-5-1st-silver-sub-2042389527

Note, I don't believe this to be the same FF4 we were discussing earlier.

Is the one you are referring to the FF #4 CGC 7.5 4343218005?

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