JDH-84 Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Just received this 9.8 with two noticeable spine stresses. Surely this isn't allowable for a 9.8? Should I try and send back as a mechanical error for a press and regrade? I did not send it in this way. I took a pic before shipping it. It seems it was damaged during encapsulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Silver Surfer Posted July 6 Popular Post Share Posted July 6 Sell it or keep it and don’t call me Shirley. The Lions Den, Turnando, Larryw7 and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Aldred Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 One of my earliest experiences with slabs was a 9.8 with a small colour-breaking crease on the back cover. Quite possible. ThothAmon, This is Who We Are, Larryw7 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sigur Ros Posted July 6 Popular Post Share Posted July 6 Seeing what gets a 9.9 these days, there's no reason to doubt this grade. crazyhips, mysterymachine, David-Lance Roten and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JDH-84 Posted July 6 Author Share Posted July 6 RMA, as soon as I saw the spine ticks on my book I thought of the warped inner holder. Mine is not bowed. Thanks for the reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougC Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 it is also highly likely that it was improperly handled during encapsulation after grading Motor City Rob, crazyhips, Yorick and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDH-84 Posted July 6 Author Share Posted July 6 On 7/6/2024 at 3:21 AM, DougC said: it is also highly likely that it was improperly handled during encapsulation after grading This is what I think. @CGC Mike could this be pressed and regraded as mechanical error? I just want a true 9.8 for my collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator CGC Mike Posted July 6 Administrator Share Posted July 6 On 7/6/2024 at 8:31 AM, JDH-84 said: This is what I think. @CGC Mike could this be pressed and regraded as mechanical error? I just want a true 9.8 for my collection. Hi I have sent an e-mail to the team and will let you know. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artboy99 Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 On 7/6/2024 at 6:31 AM, JDH-84 said: This is what I think. @CGC Mike could this be pressed and regraded as mechanical error? I just want a true 9.8 for my collection. you should just sell yours, and buy one you prefer. aardvark88 and ThothAmon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDH-84 Posted July 6 Author Share Posted July 6 On 7/6/2024 at 8:46 AM, Artboy99 said: you should just sell yours, and buy one you prefer. The thought crossed my mind, but I don't know if a potential buyer would be happy having the book the way it is. Yorick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 OMG, seriously??? ThothAmon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThothAmon Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 On 7/6/2024 at 9:01 AM, JDH-84 said: The thought crossed my mind, but I don't know if a potential buyer would be happy having the book the way it is. Why don’t you let the buyer decide? Give em a couple closeups of the offending defects to assuage your concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDH-84 Posted July 6 Author Share Posted July 6 On 7/6/2024 at 9:14 AM, ThothAmon said: Why don’t you let the buyer decide? Give em a couple closeups of the offending defects to assuage your concerns. Good idea. I'm going to see what CGC will do first and go from there. ADAMANTIUM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miraclemet Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 On 7/6/2024 at 9:14 AM, ThothAmon said: Why don’t you let the buyer decide? Give em a couple closeups of the offending defects to assuage your concerns. Still the odds of a return/refund/partial refund request (from your standard eBay buyer) is not unlikely no matter what you do.... (and agreed take pictures of the defect, mention it in the listing....) silverseeker and ADAMANTIUM 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMANTIUM Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 I think their main concern is that it happened after grading but wasn't "caught or inspected" to ensure the grade and accuracy or that CGC will stand behind the slab.... I had the same feeling when this slab came back recently. I even posted here randomly within other "9.8 " threads where the grades were questioned, rather than start my own thread, but no feedback was received. I also feel that his spine tics are worse in person, or it was hard to get a full focus on this one I mentioned that I got back. In the past I've had spine tics that looked like this when I sent in raw that got 8.0 and I sent this in when it didn't have it, and now 9.8? I don't think that he is looking to blame cgc or anything nefarious, just he even has a before scan, which is better than I can provide, but being in similar predicament, I understand that he just doesn't want the doubt "he has and reluctantly feels someone else would too?" How else could he get any answers other than to blindly trust? and I don't think anyone here is suggesting that? Mine look worse in person, with a bit of arc in the slab while encapsulated. With that development flaw found recently and dealt with according to CGC, Idk either what to think or do.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMANTIUM Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 @JDH-84 I think it is fine though Mine looks worse than the pics, perhaps yours does too... I can see in your slab where the paper crinkles at the spine ticks that make them look "not flat or the slightest jostle or slab pressure would just cause 'more creases' to the book", and it "feels like it is an unsafe book in a 9.8 slab" I think the cases ours are in are sturdy and won't squish the book to unevenly flatten those bends to cause more creases, but with SCS it is an uneasy feeling, that "we didn't send them in with"..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMANTIUM Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 (edited) when you send in a perfectly flat book and it comes back with a tic and waves that if holding raw and not handled properly would flatten due to bad handling unevenly causing more tics and damage? But you by instinct have that feeling holding it, yet instead it is in a slab, kind of psyches you out orange arrows that show up on monitor but unseeable on the phone. Tried to make it better real quick, top pic is the main outline, but might have to zoom, which is why I think it is fine and we're being too critical Edited July 6 by ADAMANTIUM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThothAmon Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 On 7/6/2024 at 9:22 AM, miraclemet said: Still the odds of a return/refund/partial refund request (from your standard eBay buyer) is not unlikely no matter what you do.... (and agreed take pictures of the defect, mention it in the listing....) Seems like this is a disadvantage in the modern comics market that really doesn’t exist in golden age and silver books. I’ve sold hundreds of slabs over the years with zero asks for returns/refunds. ttfitz and alexgross.com 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMANTIUM Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 On 7/6/2024 at 8:41 AM, ThothAmon said: On 7/6/2024 at 8:22 AM, miraclemet said: Still the odds of a return/refund/partial refund request (from your standard eBay buyer) is not unlikely no matter what you do.... (and agreed take pictures of the defect, mention it in the listing....) Seems like this is a disadvantage in the modern comics market that really doesn’t exist in golden age and silver books. I’ve sold hundreds of slabs over the years with zero asks for returns/refunds. Both of ours deserved 9.8's, it is just the "new 'damage' than can't be explained." With only one or 2 books, it is hard to justify other than being on the lookout in the process to try and make sure that a "real situation" isn't somehow happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
