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HarrisonJohn

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  1. For me personally there's two types of books here, the Whitmans and the Early Direct Editions. I have been collecting since I was 5 in 1979 and through the 80's and as these books would come up I started to identify the ones with the fat diamond (and all the variations of it) as books that came out of the 3 pack bags, and the later small diamonds with the slash through the barcode that eventually morphed into the spiderman head UPC were presumably early direct editions (once I knew what direct editions were). I never heard a word about any of this from anyone, I just came to my own conclusion from what I saw going on in stores at the time as I worked on back issues and noticed the differences. I avoided the Whitmans because I thought they looked ugly or wrong. I was never of the opinion they were reprints but I can see how on first glance years later they may look like reprints, especially the ones with the blank UPC box. I rarely saw Whitmans in my LCS even in the late 70s/ early 80s (maybe 1 out of 500 comics) and when I did, it was beat up. The "early direct editions" were much more common, though I can't remember if that was the only option at the LCS. Anyway I think there likely was a mix of things going on at the time but the general consensus on these books is as right as it's going to get. 

  2. 13 hours ago, GeeksAreMyPeeps said:

    Regarding the X-Factor issues, are the back cover ads the same on the Direct and Newsstand? I ask because the Spidey head (or various other art on later issues) is very likely there so that the printer can run the same Cyan, Magenta, and Yellow plates for all covers, and only switch the black plate for the Newsstand vs. Direct run. If they're printing different ads on the back cover, then they need to run all 4 plates either way, so they can safely drop the art box.

    Looked at X-Factor 13 on ebay and both versions have the same back cover.

    Starting with issue 20, a drawing of Cyclops is often used in the direct UPC box. Thinking it could have been a cover artist request, I looked at Walt Simonson's Thor covers from the same timeframe and a number of those are missing a direct UPC box or contain original artwork

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  3. 3 hours ago, ygogolak said:

    Fantastic Four was out of the picture, yes. But because it wasn't of interest to anyone. Not because they were making a movie (that nobody went to see). The X-Men stuff was always ongoing. They killed Wolverine, right? Um, not really. The Old Man Logan series took its place.

    They took X-characters off Marvel related materials and no toys in the stores. There were attempts to erase/ downplay these characters.The books- well, who's buying them anyway. I don't think they would cancel Spider-man but he could get swept under the rug for a while.

  4. 3 hours ago, lou_fine said:

    Yes, didn't a lot of the buyers at the time ended up giving books like these away for Halloween treats to the kids because they were so plentiful and virtually worthless at the time?  hm

    I think the book was speculated on because Stan Lee wrote it, but the character was initially a bomb so there was no reason for the first issue to hold any value. She-Hulk gained popularity after joining Avengers and her Sensational run and was one of Marvels biggest female characters by the end of the 80s, but I think the Savage title held "25 cent bin" stigma for long after.

  5. When I go to book stores I usually see teens sitting on the floor in the graphic novel section. I always have to step over them. They are reading, just not buying the new monthly comics. Which most of us probably aren't doing either. Then there's the digital stuff. It's difficult to know what effect the movies are having because there isn't one place for someone to go and read the material. There's old material, new material, several print GN formats, digital, etc.