Heronext

On 1/11/2024 at 10:57 AM, comicjel said:

Isn't it this?...

https://www.amazon.com/X-ACTO-Heavy-Guillotine-Trimmer-Inches/dp/B0006HVQH8?th=1

 

To me this isn't evidence.  I use something similar to cut backing boards and separate mailing labels from receipts, you know, cutting paper

On 1/11/2024 at 9:13 AM, mrd160 said:

Immaculate comics just did a video today saying there is no other use for a heat gun on comics. Check it out 

In Immaculate Comics recent video, he shows several screen shots of a video by Keep It Thoro Comics.

There is no video visible on KITC YouTube page more recent than two months old, unless, I guess, you subscribe to his channel for 99 cents a month?  Is that a new paywall? The video posted here on 1/6 did not appear to be behind a paywall.  If some has access to the newer video could they paste it here (assuming pasting allows you to see videos behind a paywall?)

Also based on screenshots in those videos someone in this thread owes me a beer  

@Dave2739Funkos mostly not interesting!

@Sigur Rosthings you don't care about & don't buy, not interesting!

@Phickscrazily overpriced books, kind of interesting!

Interesting: old Archies with word balloons blacked out, obscure Westerns with OO spine rolls, CGC wall books in shattered cases, you get it!

We want to see books that are Internet virgins!

@Nick Furiousif you saw it in a comic shop it belongs here, however the ideal ratio of comics to non-comics is 4:1 or better!

Interesting old comics!

This is a thread for things you saw in a comic shop but didn't buy

^ 6,666th post ^

On 1/9/2024 at 3:53 PM, GDN said:

I understand people wanting fraudulent sales pulled out of FMV calculations on GPA and GoCollect....like when someone shill bids up the sale and it never really completes.

But in this case the sale price on a lot of these are still a valid sale.  Even if the book inside was a Green label H181, the sale of the "Blue label H181" reflects a fair sale of a blue H181 in said grade.  Could still be valid in an FMV calculation.

There are "valid" sales yes but also shill sales are apparently a part of his M.O.; this came out somewhere in the previous 300 pages; I believe this is what GoCollect refers to removing

Agree with ComicWiz and all above, but pulling bad records, i.e. suspected manipulated/shilled sales, has always been policy of GPA (and GoCollect I assume), and I think every time this has come up before, people generally agree it's what the hobby wants

They should maybe be kept and tagged

@gpanalysisIf you have not chimed in on this already, have you decided how to approach this?

On 1/9/2024 at 1:57 PM, wiparker824 said:

Of course nothing being said today confirms the above theory, but this diagram is probably a bit more relevant for everyone now that didn’t watch Thoro’s stream. 

If they haven't from the start, CGC perhaps might consider implementing a form of KYC policy -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_your_customer

Know Your Customer (KYC) guidelines and regulations in financial services require professionals to verify the identity, suitability, and risks involved with maintaining a business relationship with a customer. The procedures fit within the broader scope of anti-money laundering (AML) and counter terrorism financing (CTF) regulations.

KYC processes are also employed by companies of all sizes for the purpose of ensuring their proposed customers, agents, consultants, or distributors are anti-bribery compliant and are actually who they claim to be. Banks, insurers, export creditors, and other financial institutions are increasingly required to make sure that customers provide detailed due-diligence information. Initially, these regulations were imposed only on the financial institutions, but now the non-financial industry, fintech, virtual assets dealers, and even non-profit organizations are included in regulations.

KYCC or Know Your Customer's Customer is a process that identifies a customer's customer activities and nature. This includes the identification of the customer's customers and assessing the risk levels associated with their activities.

KYCC is a derivative of the standard KYC process that arose because of the growing risk of fraud obscured by second-tier business relationships (e.g. a customer's supplier).

On 1/9/2024 at 1:51 PM, pdags said:

Unfortunately this whole event has crushed my joy... ATM, every slabbed book looks like a scam.

Whenever I feel that way I buy an issue of Spider-Man, read it and shove it in my back pocket

On 1/9/2024 at 1:40 PM, wiparker824 said:

It’s probably closer to 99% are not savy to the boards. And they’re probably happier people than us. 

The quiet collector, the reader who enjoys, the kid who bought his comic for ten cents in 1940 and read it a hundred times are the soul of this hobby

On 1/9/2024 at 1:40 PM, wiparker824 said:

It’s probably closer to 99% are not savy to the boards. And they’re probably happier people than us. 

This deserves an 'Amen'

On 1/9/2024 at 1:29 PM, mrd160 said:

Yes, both the fraud investigators and Matt Nelson directly. I want to be clear, I hate social media and message boards. No offense people lol...just not my thing.Also, I generally never buy slabs. I spent years learning to grade and spot resto so I didn't have to. I shared info to try and help fellow collectors. I really don't care beyond that. I have been collecting since 1973 and have submitted 0 books to cgc, just not my thing. My wife, who is an attorney spent a lot of time drafting the e-mail detailing what we KNEW and forwarded it to the proper people. After that, it's up to CGC.

A lot of people here think 99% of collectors are savvy to the boards and to CGC and eBay.  There's a sizable old school out there I think people underestimate.

I know someone like you, has a huge collection and never graded a book. 

On 1/9/2024 at 11:57 AM, pdags said:

Hopefully it's just a consignment book and is using the customer's photos.  Shrug.

Re-read the comment alongside the pic

On 1/9/2024 at 11:29 AM, pdags said:

What about Midtown or BulletProof?

• https://www.midtowncomics.com/?plid=2
• https://www.bulletproofcomix.com

Are they reputable and/or in a safe area?

Serious answer - if there is a comic store there it is a safe area

"Safe" is relative, for example for Midtown in Times Square I'd say watch for pickpocketers... anyone with any degree of city safety savvy will be hassle-free

On 1/9/2024 at 11:11 AM, pdags said:

My wife and I planning on visiting NY this summer.  Can someone list all the reputable stores I should visit in the Queens/Brooklyn area?

Your wife might make a great front for a comic scam... think about it

On 1/7/2024 at 11:28 AM, mrd160 said:

I can only speak for myself but if this book or any other I may have pops as dirty, I will seek every legal and civil remedy

If it's any consolation I would bet what you have is a genuine article.  Metro likely had it slabbed with the collection (assuming it was their find?); maybe it changed hands a couple of times

This page is missing some images but I doubt a provenanced / pedigree / special collection book shows up in this scandal

https://www.comicconnect.com/article/christopheravenue?tzf=1

What did it sell for at various points vs what you paid?  Profit may have been the only motive

On 1/6/2024 at 11:11 PM, mrd160 said:

I want to publicly state that @Heronext is a genius. 

On 1/6/2024 at 10:51 PM, pdags said:

If WorthPoint has a photo of a name, is that doxing?   I'm not sure if this has anything to do with this, but the photos here are interesting:

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/fantastic-four-cgc-5-1st-silver-sub-2042389527

 

The theory I am privy to is that zaneglor's ebay id was named after or inherited from a member of his family, possibly a maternal relation.  The name here is consistent with that in my view.

On 1/6/2024 at 10:39 PM, atomised said:

May I ask why the name isn't shared?

I couldn't speak for the whole thread.  It's been posted in full and taken down; first and last name have been mentioned separately a couple of times.  If you want to know, I'd suggest PMing someone who you think might know it

On 1/6/2024 at 10:34 PM, atomised said:

Briva is not a common name in the US.   Of course, Briva might not be the name of the individual but it's an interesting choice, as Briva is a first name.  Using Linkedin, I searched for all the people in the US with the name Briva.  Only two names surfaced.  One is a woman and doesn't fit the profile.  The other is this person, which interestingly has a "3" in the URL of his fb profile.   Seems a bit of a reach, but sharing what I found

We know the name and that isn't it

On 1/6/2024 at 10:06 PM, Silver Surfer said:

Or maybe C for an inside guy?

May or may not figure in but it's a side of this that doesn't personally interest me as much.  C is not an inside guy as per this diagram and as per what the YouTube video goes into.  He doesn't discuss the inside man theory.

On 1/6/2024 at 10:04 PM, Silver Surfer said:

C as in CGC?

C as in a comic selling business.  Diagram updated

On 1/6/2024 at 6:30 PM, GDN said:

The plot thickens???

 

 

A few seconds of this are interesting.  The pic below is the scenario as I see it.  A = zaneglor and & B = briva3. Likely real names have been put forth from what I've seen (not in this video).  YouTuber refers to the A-C relationship, casts particular suspicion on C and partially names them.  This is what he seems to be putting forth as the 'scoop'.