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THE BATMAN starring Robert Pattinson (2022)
Jaydogrules replied to Bosco685's topic in The Movie Forum
Yeah. You mean. Same like sporadically in 2021 as well ? Got it. -J. -
THE BATMAN starring Robert Pattinson (2022)
Jaydogrules replied to Bosco685's topic in The Movie Forum
"Covid" is not a valid excuse anymore and hasn't been for at least a year now. That didn't stop F9 and no time to die doing great there , not to mention two of their own movies that made 850MM+ in China alone in the last 14 months. Chinese had absolutely no interest in jungle cruise either. Maybe the government should start approving more movies their popularions actually "want" to see. The movie just isn't doing great business, other industry columnists have now started taking note of that as well (while usually also making some seriously sad excuses themselves), that's just the way it is at this point. I'm not saying it won't be profitable in the end, it just isn't anything to be giddy and back slappy about. The movie just did "okay". -J. -
THE BATMAN starring Robert Pattinson (2022)
Jaydogrules replied to Bosco685's topic in The Movie Forum
Happy birthday @Bosco685. (Sorry ,I'm a day late). -J. -
Can anyone confirm if ASM 635 is dell'otto's first ASM cover work ? -J.
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At last we agree on something! Lol Yeah I really love the whole "morales is the younger generation spider-man" nonsense. I'm pretty sure a lot more of the "younger generation" has been seeing spder-man in the MCU the last several years , including the most recent movie that's made nearly two billion dollars, then have that low budget cartoon that came out (that also featured real spider-man and multiple other derivatives). -J.
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THE BATMAN starring Robert Pattinson (2022)
Jaydogrules replied to Bosco685's topic in The Movie Forum
Actually the worldwide market has increased exponentially since 2005, not just "only China", which also happens to "only" be the world's largest movie market now. -J. -
THE BATMAN starring Robert Pattinson (2022)
Jaydogrules replied to Bosco685's topic in The Movie Forum
And Why are we trying to talk about a 17 year old movie that was released in a completely different marketplace? -J. -
THE BATMAN starring Robert Pattinson (2022)
Jaydogrules replied to Bosco685's topic in The Movie Forum
Joker is a "wild", "illogical" comparison/expectation ? And I specifically "didn't" compare it to No Way Home. -J. -
THE BATMAN starring Robert Pattinson (2022)
Jaydogrules replied to Bosco685's topic in The Movie Forum
I don't know any of that stuff and I don't care. I'm going based on the production budget as reported, assume that it includes those discounts, or you can assume the studio is actually low balling it (which many are often suspected of doing). It doesn't matter either way or help what this movie is making. Funny thing is, I'm disappointed by these numbers. Again , I did not think it would get anywhere near no way home numbers. But I thought it would at least do Joker numbers. And that was a fair expectation. -J. -
THE BATMAN starring Robert Pattinson (2022)
Jaydogrules replied to Bosco685's topic in The Movie Forum
I did see that. Did you see where one of the producers said the all in was $500MM, production, P&A? Do you think that The Batman cost significantly less than that? I was being "conservative" with my $350MM. Things don't get any better as far as theatrical revenue return is concerned if its budget is actually closer to no time to die. And please, do explain how on which galaxy a 2.5x multiple for no time to die's production budget = "well into the black". -J. -
THE BATMAN starring Robert Pattinson (2022)
Jaydogrules replied to Bosco685's topic in The Movie Forum
Yeah, I'll believe the figures that are published all over industry box office tracking sites, and will continue to be unimpressed. -J. -
THE BATMAN starring Robert Pattinson (2022)
Jaydogrules replied to Bosco685's topic in The Movie Forum
Nice projection. As I said, I'm actually basing it on CURRENT global P & A costs, I even mentioned another CURRENT movie with a comparable budget that also got a global release (including China) as a comp, and the thumbnail regional splits I cited are beyond dispute, try again. These numbers, for DC's biggest hero are just unimpressive, sorry. We are still at Suiice Squad 2016 numbers, and that movie was a late summer release, had actual competition, and no China, and genuinely sucked. Not that. China will be doing much for this movie after all with its soft opening there (yeah, yeah , Corona). -J. -
THE BATMAN starring Robert Pattinson (2022)
Jaydogrules replied to Bosco685's topic in The Movie Forum
Incorrect. None of those companies pays "crazy margins" for that kind of merchandise to anybody, the wholesale cost is extremely miniscule, and , in any event, entirely irrelevant to a movie's theatrical take. -J. -
THE BATMAN starring Robert Pattinson (2022)
Jaydogrules replied to Bosco685's topic in The Movie Forum
All that's already accounted for in the original production budget. -J. -
THE BATMAN starring Robert Pattinson (2022)
Jaydogrules replied to Bosco685's topic in The Movie Forum
Ah, the old "the ancillaries are (will be, hopefully) strong so the movie made money!". No. Each and every one of the items you mention (except "product placement", and if you are relying on product placement to put your movie over the top, then you've already lost the argument) HAVE THEIR OWN COST BASIS, ie, DVD's, toys etc cost ADDITIONAL money over and above production and P&A to produce, and , at least in this case, this will be streaming on HBO max, which isn't any additional revenue to Warner (unless you want to count "new subscribers" which is impossible to quantify). That 2..5x production "metric" hasn't been valid since the '90's and the advent of the true global film market and the exponential costs associated therein. Just like at No Time to Die as another worldwide release which had a $500MM all in. . I'm actually being CONSERVATIVE with my estimates for Batman at $350MM, it's probably more like $400MM. And even conservatively No, the movie has not made a profit yet and isn't even close to a profit yet. -J. -
Hey now great price. Congrats ! Definitely submit those. At least 9, 10, and 12. -J.
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Cap 1 already at $1MM+ on heritage. Welcome to the seven digits club Cap. What kept ya? I'll say it ends up between $2.5MM-$3MM when all is said and done. -J. *Edit- Had to update my final hammer estimate.
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You are correct. Wd1 is BY FAR the more significant to the hobby, culturally significant, and with just about 20 TV seasons under its belt , with more coming, in addition to movies , I would say that WD 1 is the most important modern book printed, and even represents the beginning of what is the current Mosern (tv/movie hype speculation) Age of comics. And hell, even IT cooled off for a couple few years. UF 4 should never even sniff WD 1 in terms of value, ever, and it wouldn't if it wasn't being pumped and shilled all the time. -J.
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Crazy how much these go for now. I regret not buying that full 9.8 set for $499 some years back. I already had a full.raw set that I got for next to nothing so I saw no reason. Yours looks minty fresh ! Mind sharing bow much the set ran you? -J.
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THE BATMAN starring Robert Pattinson (2022)
Jaydogrules replied to Bosco685's topic in The Movie Forum
What? You may want to double check those "metrics". Production $200MM + $150MM worldwide P&A (at least, its probably closer to $200MM)= $350MM all in (at least). North American - $300MM × 50% = $150MM Everywhere else $298MM × 40%= $119MM = $269MM back to. Warner so far. Which means still about $81MM (at least) away from break even after 3 weeks and absolutely no serious competition and still very far from anything resembling a profit. To which I continue to say Meh. (But hey, it's doing a lot better than the last 3 DCEU movies so that's still saying something , right? -J.