joe_collector

Psssst, hey clueless.. go back and reread the posts where virtually everyone has stated the litmus test for TWD speculative prices will be AFTER the TV show is CANCELLED.

If I left this thread, the average IQ would be cut in half. Seriously, this is some of the dumbest, pidgin-English-constructed half-sentences in the history of the CGC forums, and I am in awe at the current state of the US educational system.

Sorry, but I find it very hard to believe that buyers of CGC 9.8 and 9.9 copies, at current prices, are buying them as "pure fans".

That's what I thought, but I couldn't remember it for sure. But regardless of it being a reprint of the MSS magazine, Star Wars 42 is still desirable because it has Boba Fett on the cover, and is the first comic book appearance. In a CGC world, having the character on the cover really matters.

That's what they all say, then the moment XYZ hot comic crashes, and the specs move to ABC hit comic, suddenly it's not so attractive anymore.

I always wondered what it was a reprint of. Was there an ESB edition that preceeded it?

The best example of my statement is the 1-50-issue print run "Museum" books that were produced in the 1990's. Initially speculators went crazy, but now there is virtually no demand and the lowest print run possible hasn't done anything to drive demand. A low print run, by itself, does absolutely nothing to increase prices or drive demand. TWD is just hitting a perfect storm where the low print runs of early issues are being met by TV-fueled demand.

Wow, it looks like Zombie Einstein's crawled out of his crypt and joined the discussion. Next up, we won't be able to discuss valuation without eBay, right? Like I said, the print run of a comic book, taken as a single factor, means absolutely nothing to a comic's market value. Absolutely nothing, and that is a verified fact. Only when linked with a myriad of other factors does it even start to have an effect, and in the statement I was quoting, the OP was all over the "low print runs" like by itself, it was the be-all, end-all of "high comic prices. Which it isn't.

- the books die the minute the TV show starts failing and looks like it might be cancelled.

Don't you find it weird that when speculators are challenged on here, that they all revert to a childish "okay, then I'll pay cover price for all your copies"? Yeah we should revert to calling them tools......its the adult thing to do Actually, it's the grammatically correct thing to do. (thumbs u

Don't you find it weird that when speculators are challenged on here, that they all revert to a childish "okay, then I'll pay cover price for all your copies"?

Then get to it, there's absolutely tons on eBay just hoping for a speculator to bite. I typed in "Walking Dead CGC 9.8" and Firefox crashed.

Hardly, we're saying it's incredibly foolish to pay current market prices for CGC TWD issues, and you disagree, so put your money where your mouth is and stop acting like a math-challenged tool by offering cover price for a comic that sells for $200. You have two choices if you want CGC copies of TWD: 1) Pay current market prices to buy TWD issues today. 2) Wait for the inevitable correction and scoop up cheap issues a few years down the line. That's it, so please stop this idiotic "okay, I'll pay cover price" meme that every single angry speculator does when challenged on these forums. It's like you go to the same "special" school or something.

Then pay full market value. Is this hard for someone like you to understand? If you feel confident in the prices moving forward, pay full market and don't act all math-challenged by offering cover price for comics selling for $100-$200 a pop. You just look like a tool.

So you're willing to pay full market GPA prices for the above? That's the going rate after all, and what sellers could get on eBay as of today. Here's a TWD 11 CGC 9.8 right now: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Walking-Dead-11-2004-Death-of-Lacey-Arnold-Robert-Kirkman-Adlard-9-8-CGC-/190996359486?pt=US_Comic_Books&hash=item2c7845293e

You may be right, but the books/properties with the shortest history are always the ones to fall the first and the farthest. i.e. Moderns. In the event of a total market meltdown, which would you rather be holding: 1) A mid-grade CGC copy of Action 1 or 2) The equivalent value in CGC 9.8 TWD #1's If you answered 2), go hit your head against the wall until you feel like picking 1).

Then why are you in this thread screaming and yelling about what a great investment the book currently is? I like the Walking Dead too, but I'd have to be brain-dead to pay current prices for this flash-in-the-pan.

Sandman anyone?

No, that's pretty well how it went. Pop culture was into a "Zombie Revival" in the early-2000's and 28 Days Later was the main catalyst (though not the first), as well as the X of the Dead remakes, etc. The Walking Dead *rode* that wave, it didn't create it.

Talk about specious logic at its worst. Zombies and horror in general were experiencing a revival in the early 2000's, and it really reached a fever pitch with 28 Days Later, which IMO was the catalyst for the whole "Zombie Fad". A year later, The Walking Dead appeared *because* of the increase in attention to zombies in general, not the other way around. What year were you people born, 2003?

No, I am correct, the print run of a comic has absolutely nothing to do with its valuation. Absolutely nothing. Now, if demand spikes and the available HG copies are lower than expected (due to many factors, attrition, print defects, print run, recycling drives, etc.) then it can affect price. But by itself, it is absolutely positively 100% worthless as an indicator of value.

Then you need glasses bad, buddy. I watch The Walking Dead and I can say with certainty that the zombies in that show are no different than the zombies in a hundred other movies, tv programs, books, comics, etc. so good luck with your foolish investment once the TV show gets cancelled and the speculators all move onto the 'new hot thing". Seriously, we've all be through this a million times and I can remember friends of mine telling me that Howard the Duck #1 was going to be a "major comic" going forward and that I should buy a few extras.

The latest Amazing Spider-man movie sucked, the Punisher movies all sucked, and GL/GA 76 jumped the shark a long time ago.

I really should look through my collection to see how many extras I have laying around. For a few years there I was buying up every Starlin Warlock?Captain Marvel HG issue I could get my hands on.

The more things change, the more they remain the same - I can remember every year or so, someone brings up "Joker's Daughter", "Batman Family 6" and "sure to be a hot investment" but it never pans out.