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I appreciate the fact that the motivated bidder (s)has decided to get a Frazetta piece at all cost. I’ve looked at this piece over and over. I wouldn’t hide it in a portfolio if I owned it. But I am not excited for this piece. I have excepted that my opportunity to own a high quality Frazetta has come and gone. I’m not chasing something like this. To each his own.

Dang I used to have those but I can’t find them Lee. Please if anyone can locate them send them to Lee. Guy is archiving the great history of our passionate hobby.

That was a tough one to let go but it definitely went to a good home! Sinnott made this issue pop like he did with everything he touched. Love the link-great tribute to an absolutely brilliant artist! 🍇 🦍

Awesome!

We’ve lost one of the very best comic artists of all time. A man of abundant talent and class. R I P Joe you are well loved and sorely missed.

Joe Sinnott was an artist beyond compare. A class act who will be so dearly missed. Two great Surfer drawings and Joe’s inks on FF 200.

Look at Mike dropping the mic 🎤 haha I love this chat board so much.

I think that’s a fair position. He is a talented artist. I don’t know how far this is going to go concerning Cameron legally. It might be left to the court of public opinion. I wouldn’t expect any reasonable person to “unload” their art to circumvent “investment” loss. He’s an excellent artist. That’s a great piece you have. I think prudence and deliberate patience is required in these days and times. Its seems too easy today to emotionally respond quickly; Tear it down! Remove it! Blacklist! I don’t want to be led by the tail every time an allegation is brought up. Even if due process is not the right term in this situation, in my heart and mind I expect every situation where a human being is accused, be examined carefully on each side. I would not want my career to come to an end on allegations. l don’t want to take this down a rabbit hole but I just watched 3 documentaries about The West Memphis 3. It’s scary how easy it is in our society to be accused. Once you’re stained it’s hard to get it off and the consequences can be devastating.

You are a hero of mine for that bid.

I’ve known Bechara for 25 years. I’m pleased he will add the disclosure. Again good eye by Brian to notice the alterations.

Hell then who is the butcher? How do we stop him or her before they strike again???

Brian I’ve gone back and forth on the 2010 vs. today. This was professionally done in my opinion. I feel your passion for leaving the art as it was. This is a rare opportunity to see a piece of art as it was and as it is now after arts and crafts. I prefer untouched or even the suggestions you made. I imagine whoever invested in “fixing” this did so to make the art more attractive? That’s subjective I understand so,,.. what do some our friends here think? 1)Would you be ticked to buy this without realizing it was worked on? 2)Do you think it looks better now or as it was before? 3)If the sellers are aware of “restoration” should they put it in the listing description? For me 1) I would be upset to pay and later find out about “fixing” I’d like to know about any changes post original production process by artists #2 I agree with Brian the cover looked better as it was. #3even if you add stats word balloons etc I think it should be disclosed. I’m not ready to elevate what took place here to Los Bros status unless this is a repeated process by a dealer or seller. Disclosure will not hurt and can only instill confidence in an item up for purchase. Thanks Brian 🍇 🦍

The dog ate my Amazing Spider-Man 6 pages—-signed, Worst Nightmare Realized 💀

A new thread might be a good idea though it’s not necessarily in anyone’s interest to show declining sales examples. (Bargain art hunters aside) My point is more about self discipline. We are our own worst enemies. If I were the new generation of collectors wandering into the market today I believe there is less room for error. In the time I mentioned and you celebrate with me 😂 you could buy almost any art page and make money next time around. It feels like return profit is priced out of most transactions for a foreseeable future. Less room for miscalculation? Take risk?

All of us, have attempted to correct our own market on fears real and imagined. If I let that piece go and it disappears into a black hole.... If I buy that piece over FMV (whatever that is) then have to sell I’ll lose money. If I sell this at X and see it selling for Y ++ a week from now I’ll figuratively harm myself. Most everything I see feels over priced that has a price tag on it. More then anytime in our brief history of OA buy and trade I’m seeing many items sell for significantly less-then the last time purchased. There is a reckless abandon I miss about OA offered eBay and elsewhere 1995-2002. Seemingly unlimited product with potential on ROI. Today the potential for mistakes that lead to real investment losses (for lack of a better word) loom ominous in my mind. Feels like a House of Cards. Collect what you love. Dealers have to make money. Putting outlandish price tags on items serve only to stagnate a fluid market and impress your friends. 🍇 🦍

SwipeGate? Tablegate??? You think this is what BLASTAAR meant when he asked “Thoughts on Arthur Suydam?”

I’ve seen him West Coast Anaheim SDCC Long Beach

Bird, for Cornette de Saint Cyr what would honor look like? Not destroying another work of art with poor packaging methods? Or declining to sell presumed stolen goods?

You're fine buddy. Most have been in your shoes.I hope you make a bundle and get your truly desired page. As usual here on the boards, " if we're not hating, we're not trying."

I met him a few times. He only had prints for sale which I don't collect. I fondly remember his work in Epic Magazine and the Marvel Zombies. Very distinct style of artistry.

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A great resource for those Jake Killby “original” drawings we see pop up on “reputable” auction sites.

I went through ten issues from 1994 but could not locate this image. I know how frustrating that can be. Maybe Ron Lim remembers?

I actually bought a piece I didn’t like to try and replace one I let get away. Early 2000’s I sold a four panel John Buscema/ Dan Adkins Silver Surfer Page for good money. Later on, missing the page, I found a Marvel Fanfare Page by Buscema with inks by Jack Abel. I did not like the inking but it was affordable. My thinking was that prices were going up on The Silver Surfer original series and I might not ever afford another page. So despite my misgivings I bought the Marvel Fanfare Page: I tried to love it. When I received it in the mail it looked worse in person then the photo online. The inking was dreadful. I kept it for two years then sold it for a small profit. Later on a miracle took place and I landed what many collectors have told me is their grail interior John Buscema Silver Surfer Page. This made me whole. Its not crazy to bite on a page you don’t necessarily love. I suspect you at some point will let it go if you get it. Unless it grows on you which is possible. I’ve never collected from a completist perspective. Because it fits into the way you like to collect I will urge you to go ahead and win that page. 🍇 🦍