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Its one sale but just saw a voldy ASM 301 in 9.2 T Mac "verified" sig go for nearly 800 with the Ebay tax and shipping. I think GPA high for 9.2 yellow is nowhere near that. This was a voldy copy and not even a witnessed sig.

I don't know that I'd be so quick to assume a huge widespread tanking of Mcfarlane signatures. There's a reason they have boatloads of submissions at 120 - 150 a pop. If the demand wasn't there Todd wouldn't have to do this over a period of time with multiple trips.

On 12/10/2022 at 4:45 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

he said in a video how many kinda, his words were:

"there are, well the number starts with 32, and there was a word after it, amount of books!" end quote

That is Todd the hype machine, surely it is 32 hundred ie 3200

rather than 32,000

 

What I'd be curious about is the average amount CGC gets in whenever they have one of these in house events. I mean 32k would seem to be an excessive amount without knowing how many they typically get in. 

Wonder if there are any estimates of the total submissions for this event? I read on IG something in the range of 30k but have no idea about the reliability of that. 

On 12/9/2022 at 4:07 PM, Ninja0215 said:

Has that pannel ever been confirmation ii is Venom's first apperance; because it kind of is.  

No the first app has been debated for at least as long as cgc has been around. The prior issue had a very brief appearance of the venom hands on the last page. Some believe there were "appearances" in two issues of Web of Spider-man long before. Imo it is the first time anyone saw the character clearly displayed in full body but just my opinion. CGC decided at the start ASM 300 is the official first "full appearance" and 299 is just a "cameo". I'm with you in seeing this as the first but others disagree. 

On 12/7/2022 at 11:38 AM, Comixroc said:

Correct!  The panel where you only see Eddie’s silhouette.  I window bagged part of the silhouette and the prior panel of the outside building.  It’s a small window.  Should look fantastic… we’ll see…

Ah yeah that's the page where the Eddie silhouette is standing in front of the wall with newspaper clippings of spider-man pictures. It then splits into several smaller panels at the bottom where the hands get enveloped by the symbiote. I was thinking of another page. Anyway very cool!

On 12/6/2022 at 10:41 PM, Comixroc said:

I did the same thing!  I sent in the last page of #299 and #298!  There are a ton of signed #298 and #299.  But the meat and potatoes are only the last pages!  And the art on these last pages are way cooler than the cover art.  Can’t wait to see how it comes back!

Also sent in just the cover for Batman #423, 2nd print.

Is 298 the page with the symbiote covering Eddie Brock's arm? I think it's him looking in the mirror or lifting weights becoming enraged then in a separate smaller panel it's the arm and symbiote. Where exactly did you request the signature if you did window bag it?

On 12/6/2022 at 8:50 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

I noticed that too, and the "bigger negative space, bigger signature?" 

Threw me off, if I was able to send a blank for a spawn book or whatever,.would the sig have been comic book size? 

I also get that he's THE artist on most, but it made me squint. He probably feels the same way about it, we meet in the middle and here we are! Hahahahahahahaha 😂

If there's no window bag and it's a large negative space like a blank cover, he'd probably sign it larger but not occupy the whole cover. I suppose he would use his best judgment. He's signed those blank covers in the past large enough to occupy maybe a quarter of the cover. Sometimes in those cases, he draws an extra little line coming down from one of the letters (like a webbing string) with the little spider at the end.

On 12/6/2022 at 8:47 PM, andamovie said:

I agree with Todd, but the examples he gives aren't very good because the empty space is cramped. Maybe if the writer/artist had a smaller signature, sure, but Todd has a large signature.

He could either sign his first name on top of the last or the "T. Mcfarlane" in those specific examples. He'd rather do that than sign the full name horizontally on top of artwork if avoidable. 

On 12/6/2022 at 5:54 PM, ak47po said:

Todd likes signing different types of his books.

 

I sent him a page not a book. Last page of ASM 299. Nice empty parking space on the upper right section of the page👍

On 12/6/2022 at 1:37 PM, CGC Mike said:

If you are referring to the hologram covering the custom label, we now have the new labels in hand.

Yes I'm referring to the scroll label that had to be corrected. Hopefully they're using the new ones now. Otherwise hoping it won't be necessary to print out another submission form in the event I get the obscured version and need to send back. 

@CGC Mike any word on the scroll labels yet? I only ask because my submission is being encapsulated now and would want to know which version I should expect. 

Thanks for your efforts. 

So it was either a big subscription crease or mangled up corners with these copies back then. Or maybe both. If you had one of those small mail slots where everything gets jammed in it must've been a death sentence for these poor books 😱. I can't imagine people ordered these with high expectations back in the day. 

On 11/18/2022 at 8:16 PM, CGC Mike said:

Regarding the hologram covering the custom label for the McFarlane SS books:

CGC got on this immediately. We have requested new labels be printed and rushed. We are hoping to have labels within a week, although Thanksgiving may affect this. All in-house books that have not been sent out are being held for the new labels. If a customer already received a book with the hologram covering the label, the best course of action is to reach out to the Sig Team and they will happily send Mechanical Error instructions so this can be fixed. Signatureseries@cgccomics.com 

This issue is only happening on the McFarlane scroll label, the Spawn label is good to go.

Do you know if the updated labels were delivered? 

On 11/8/2022 at 12:04 PM, icp004 said:

Wonder why they advertised this so heavily when the primary audience for comics were kids too young for this (I think). Or were young adults reading comics back then? These ads were on every bronze age marvel and sometimes in the pages too.

On 11/22/2022 at 12:14 AM, Spider-Variant said:

Seems like only yesterday my older brother and I were picking up issue 145 off the stands.  Absolutely love that issue.

Yes Andru was on a pretty good tear by that time.  I'm almost sure those 2 were from the same submission. Both came from Lone star comics. 

On 11/19/2022 at 11:21 AM, ft88 said:

Bronze. Good line is 12/15 cent split. Latest might be iss 95/96 with no CCA stamp drug story in 96. I forget where the Romita/ Kane change happened  

FF often is When Kirby stops but I still prefer 12/15 split. 
 

 

Kane started penciling in issue 89 summer of 1970

On 11/18/2022 at 7:32 PM, VintageComics said:

Because one auction sales is not an indicator of the market, and I can give MANY examples. 

The Hulk #181 example was discussed a few pages ago and I think the reasonable conclusion is that those two $50K Sig Series sales were both outliers and possibly even fake sales. I never thought Hulk #181 was a $50K book after those sales, and we now have at least two more sales at $90K+ forming a bottom on the book (and that's two IN THE SAME AUCTION which is even more impressive).

Another book I was surprised about was the ASM #1 CGC 9.6 that sold for $330K. That sounds like a lot of money but in the grand scheme of things, I think that book went incredibly cheap when compared to other ASM #1 sales, AF #15 sales and other related books. In fact, I was shopping around a 9.6 for someone at well over that number a year ago (let's say double) and I was getting interest - not serious enough to sell it - but if the book had been priced as $330K it would have sold many times over. 

So does that mean that ASM #1 is faltering? Hardly. The book is climbing in price in other high grade price points. 

So, this one slipped throw the cracks because another bidder didn't show up to drive price up and I think the buyer got a deal.

We'll know in 6 months where the bottom actually was on this new market but I think people are just currently reactive and not proactive. 

One more thing. I won't name names, but there were dealings buying up books when everyone was selling in 2008-09 and in early 2020. They spend millions buying up people's 'fire sales' books, and they did very well in retrospect.

This is very true. It's just as easy to get caught up in a significant downturn as it is in a significant upswing. I keep thinking the wild card out there is the pandemic crowd that swooped in now having skin in this game. These people have not fallen off the face of the earth. The possibility they come back and start competing against each other to some degree shouldn't be discounted. I don't know if this would be a good or bad thing for comics but it might be a reality. Cash will not be king forever anymore than a supercharged 2020 style QE/ZIRP environment was sustainable long term. Only thing we know for sure right now is it's a terrible idea to put up a big high grade key for auction if you don't have to.