Lightning55

You're right, because it is going to get regraded, not just reholdered.

Yeah, I guess I still don't get it, but now my head hurts. Dropping it for health reasons.

This is totally untrue. If you present a label and a capsule for a reholder, the capsule could contain a 9.4 version of the 9.8 label. No notes to go by, as you would be looking up the 9.8 and see nothing. No photo to go by, if before last summer. You have no chain of custody on the 9.8 that supposedly came out of that case. It would have to be regraded from scratch.

Maybe you could translate...

We could go with all 3. It was, after all, a virtual whiteboard. Made absolutely no sense to me, and I read it 3 times. But sometimes people are just on very different wavelengths. Anybody else "get it"???

"Stop all encapsulation" So not this.

Nobody "slips" books into someone else's submission. No one is foolish enough to pay for grading on books they didn't submit, mysteriously showing up on their dashboard. And if this middleman has his own account, he's paying for it anyway, has his own submission number, what's the point of horning in on someone else's submission? This will only make sense if you drag in Jimmy Hoffa and Elvis, and finish with a fake moon landing.

I don't think you can un-clean a cover. It's a one way street.

I believe married components generate a Green qualified label.

Brees on the box for 1 poster, Brees in a message for a different poster. I'm going with Brees, but you can certainly cling to your supposition.

It might be too late, but you could check with CGC customer service by phone or email. If I had that situation, I don't think I would care about a 1" non-sealed area. The inner well holds it snugly in position, and that's not going to affect that purpose.

I suggested that, but the poster said it was definitely "Brees" on the box. Not some other iteration.

My bad. Never mind on that one. People are finding images and sales data from way back somewhere. We need a super sleuth.

Same suggestion. Get the info to someone who can look it up on WP or Terapeak.

Someone may be able to resurrect it on Worthpoint or Terapeak, if you provide the date, exact title, and eBay item number.

No one knows for sure on MJ reholder. You can see the insert from 3 edges, so it has been speculated that CGC may have not opened the inner well, but equally they may have. This was discussed in detail 100-150 pages ago, the parts you didn't read.

This could be the birth of 4th party grading. Cracking, checking, verifying what the 3rd party grader determined, and then reslabbing. Checking the checker.

Not everyone there is on holiday. I got invoiced yesterday and today. There goes that theory.

Who are you writing this to???

Beat me to it. Someday I'm going to win one of these posting races.

So for your #2, your favored theory, tons of faked auctions on eBay. For what purpose? Attention? This sounds like more of a conspiracy than the conspiracy you claim #3 is the inside man. Hard to be fake when some are landing in the hands of posters here. I'll go with "anything is possible". But your #2 supposition is last in line. Last among all the possibilities, not just these 3.

As for your question, I don't think there is a way to know what services were added to the label, without knowing what the label cost, and even then you are guessing. Maybe eBay knows, so you could call customer service. You might also enter the tracking number on USPS. It will show as label created only, but one of the tabs is Product Info (or something to that effect) which tells you if it was Priority, Signature Confirmation, insured, etc. One way to look at this process is that you are following the Return flow as presented to you, including using the pre-printed label. I don't know how you would be held responsible for anything that happened after you sent the package with their label, following their exact instructions. If the seller, or eBay, whoever created the label, was stupid enough not to insure the shipment, that's on them. If they left it up to you, it would be on you. And if you paid by credit card, any claims to hold you responsible could be defended by the credit card company. Maybe eBay itself would cover you because you did what was asked of you.

Voluntarily deleted - trying to stay out of trouble.

And what is the supposed motivation to create this fake data, or fake eBay activity. I don't see a way to monetize it. Is it to create fake market data, influence prices? Quite involved for that, to drive up values on books you are holding.

On the text i bolded above, you can't reuse the same label, it goes away with the sold 9.8. He has to start all over with the pulled 9.8 comic, submitting as a raw, trusting it will come back 9.8 each time. Nothing sinister about sending in a comic to be graded, but there is if it is a substituted comic for a reholder. This is the part of the system he is likely exploiting, along with custom label case changes. If his 9.8 comic comes back 9.6, he can choose to sell as is, or crack it out for another try. Different graders, different day, may still come back 9.8 next time. Only out the grading cost to retry, which is small change in the scheme of things. Or "scam of things".