Lightning55

I suggested that, but the poster said it was definitely "Brees" on the box. Not some other iteration.

My bad. Never mind on that one. People are finding images and sales data from way back somewhere. We need a super sleuth.

Same suggestion. Get the info to someone who can look it up on WP or Terapeak.

Someone may be able to resurrect it on Worthpoint or Terapeak, if you provide the date, exact title, and eBay item number.

No one knows for sure on MJ reholder. You can see the insert from 3 edges, so it has been speculated that CGC may have not opened the inner well, but equally they may have. This was discussed in detail 100-150 pages ago, the parts you didn't read.

This could be the birth of 4th party grading. Cracking, checking, verifying what the 3rd party grader determined, and then reslabbing. Checking the checker.

Not everyone there is on holiday. I got invoiced yesterday and today. There goes that theory.

Who are you writing this to???

Beat me to it. Someday I'm going to win one of these posting races.

So for your #2, your favored theory, tons of faked auctions on eBay. For what purpose? Attention? This sounds like more of a conspiracy than the conspiracy you claim #3 is the inside man. Hard to be fake when some are landing in the hands of posters here. I'll go with "anything is possible". But your #2 supposition is last in line. Last among all the possibilities, not just these 3.

As for your question, I don't think there is a way to know what services were added to the label, without knowing what the label cost, and even then you are guessing. Maybe eBay knows, so you could call customer service. You might also enter the tracking number on USPS. It will show as label created only, but one of the tabs is Product Info (or something to that effect) which tells you if it was Priority, Signature Confirmation, insured, etc. One way to look at this process is that you are following the Return flow as presented to you, including using the pre-printed label. I don't know how you would be held responsible for anything that happened after you sent the package with their label, following their exact instructions. If the seller, or eBay, whoever created the label, was stupid enough not to insure the shipment, that's on them. If they left it up to you, it would be on you. And if you paid by credit card, any claims to hold you responsible could be defended by the credit card company. Maybe eBay itself would cover you because you did what was asked of you.

Voluntarily deleted - trying to stay out of trouble.

And what is the supposed motivation to create this fake data, or fake eBay activity. I don't see a way to monetize it. Is it to create fake market data, influence prices? Quite involved for that, to drive up values on books you are holding.

On the text i bolded above, you can't reuse the same label, it goes away with the sold 9.8. He has to start all over with the pulled 9.8 comic, submitting as a raw, trusting it will come back 9.8 each time. Nothing sinister about sending in a comic to be graded, but there is if it is a substituted comic for a reholder. This is the part of the system he is likely exploiting, along with custom label case changes. If his 9.8 comic comes back 9.6, he can choose to sell as is, or crack it out for another try. Different graders, different day, may still come back 9.8 next time. Only out the grading cost to retry, which is small change in the scheme of things. Or "scam of things".

Whether you swap the labels or the whole comic, you lose the 9.8 label in your Frankencomic when it sells. You keep the crappy label, or just destroy the evidence. Either way, you have to resubmit the pulled actual 9.8 comic and hope it regrades 9.8 to continue the loop.

Been mentioned a few times, lagging behind in the merit of possibilities, just ahead of inserting complete counterfeits.

Thank you for the summation. I recognized the name in the thread title as someone I had sold a dozen Marvel Masterworks to. To see his name associated with some type of shady topic piqued my curiosity.

Forgot to add that insurance is much cheaper with Registered, because of the way it is handled. For that reason, many times it is cheaper to send a high value item by Registered with insurance than it is to send Priority or any other method with the same amount of insurance. They're all expensive, so when I say cheaper, it's a relative term.

Wow. If that's a "scam", this thread is the crime of the century.

With Registered, it is kept out of the regular mail stream, with a chain of custody under lock and key. As for the pre-printed label, you will not be able to add services to it at the counter.

Thanks for the link. I had already found it on Google, and skimmed the first few pages and last couple of pages. Couldn't get the gist from that and didn't want to read 249 pages. Been there (this thread), done that. Was it just about bad pressing? Anyone got something more specific?

Could some knowledgeable person please sum up the Cole Schave Scam in a few sentences?

I think everyone but you recognized this as a joke. A lump of coal for you.

Big companies like eBay don't usually carry insurance . They self-insure because they are large enough to absorb whatever hits come along. They know an insurance company is going to charge premiums larger than they intend to pay out, since they have to make a profit. So it's cheaper to just cover your own incidents. I was a McDonald's manager for 10 years. No insurance. Much cheaper for the corporation to pay claims as they happened than to pay premiums annually for 40,000 individual restaurants. Way cheaper.

You were one of the buyers. There was, as I mentioned, a screencap of an offer on an ASM 300. But if you saw it on the label on the box, that not only trumps everything, it confirms it.