Lightning55

CGC is not compelled in any way to provide any answers to the many questions we all may have. If they do address any concerns, well, good on them. There is no regulatory agency overseeing the comic collecting industry/hobby. CGC is not a financial institution, subject to SEC rules and regulations. It is a private company, owned by a public company. CGC has not done anything criminal. A bit negligent or incompetent maybe, on the reholder process, but poor performance is not a crime. There is probably fraud taking place, maybe unwittingly aided by CGC. But CGC is not the source of the fraud, so not the subject of an investigation. The person, or people, swapping out books are the criminals. On that criminal level, the parties affected (collectors who lost money due to slab tempering), would be the ones to press charges, to get law enforcement involved, since something tangible was stolen from them - money. Multiple affected parties would have to band together to seek justice and compensation. But....has anyone to date lost money?? Those who potentially could have lost money are supposedly being made whole by CGC, so no longer victims. No victims = no crime = no prosecution. And as long as CGC keeps up with current compensation, as well as funding new, previously-unknown instances of swapping, this whole affair slowly loses traction, fading away. Could be the entire strategy.

The CGC Guarantee states that each book is evaluated by at least 2 graders. Used to be 3.

How to poke a bear... Bear poking back, with restraint.

I have had about 400-500 9.8's, from Bronze, Copper, and Modern submissions. I never got notes, to my knowledge, on even a single 9.8. Maybe not even a single 9.6. I have heard of people getting notes on 9.8's. Very rarely, though. To get a large percentage of notes on 9.8's via multiple submissions is an anomaly. It certainly could suggest some type of inside collusion. Will we ever know? No, not a chance. In my opinion, with no hope of ever knowing, it becomes a moot point. Interesting, maybe troubling, but fruitless.

Same notes on dozens of my books, verbatim. But not on any 9.8's, so there's that....

Yours is possibly not trimmed either. That determination was made at the time of grading, an "opinion". It's an important opinion, but not the end all be all. On a different day, you might not get the same determination. If you could find a few blue label very similar examples, you might be able to send that evidence in to get yours released from purple label prison.

+1 Saved me sooooo much typing. We will have full transparency from CGC right after treasure is found at Oak Island. As in never.

The scans are not of the ungraded book, but of the graded, encapsulated book.

Yes, apparently I did have my facts wrong, but the dates on the announcement were wrong. Plus I was punch drunk from reading dozens of posts by 2 loonies going back and forth about the YouTube videos, at the expense of the other 10,000 of us who really don't care about that one way or the other.

My error, then. It says Updated in the title, posted 1/3, then under that in bold Updated January 3, 2024. Maybe threw me off with the dates.

So the answers to your questions have been public knowledge since Jan. 3rd, by way of a CGC announcement. And you have been asking the questions for 5 pages (or what seems like 20). Is this like Jeopardy, where they give you the answer and you have to come up with the question??

It's the same statement that was issued 1/3/24. Now you're happy with it??

That is foxing, a common affliction of old paper. It is an aging effect, from humidity or insect activity, or both. Irreversible, I believe, and takes a big hit on grading.

I suspect that the buyer is happy, though.

It's not an unusual result, Stewart. I have books as low as 8.5 and 8.0 with no notes. It has been indicated that the notes are primarily for internal use, grader to grader, made available to us as a courtesy. Grading is not a full appraisal of your comic, with a list of attributes and detriments. That would be a bit more expensive.

That IS disturbing. His last name is not Crayon.

A new term, MPR? Or maybe MSR? Melt, swap, reassemble?

Sorry to be off topic, but could someone tell me if there is a way to set a thread to just 1 daily summary email using mobile (Android)? I know how to do it on a desktop. Thanks

Would look amazing if they had staged it with decent grade cheapo 12 cent comics in bags and boards. The colors would pop against that blue framework.

This was for sale on FB? How much was the asking price?

And you said you weren't good at social media....

Yeah, I'm looking at both copies, and Marvel on the left is about the same distance from the spine on each one. On the 9.0 copy, Johnny's head is closer to the edge than on your copy. If one would be suspected of being trimmed, I would pick the 9.0 copy for that reason.

As it says in the original announcement, if you have any questions, you can email ReportFraud@CollectiblesGroup.com. I would think you could do that to see what options might be available to you, if you believe the slab you have is suspect.

Call in the KGB. Solved immediately.

More like the OJ car chase...in slow motion.