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To address what I was referring to as inconsistent 8.5s here are two cards. 

Raichu has a few horizontal factory scratches. Large diagonal scratch is on case. Clean edges, corners.

vs 

Both graded 8.5.

Not sure why it's trying to upload picture of Raichu multiple times.

On 1/17/2022 at 4:12 PM, PokemanDude90 said:

Not surprising. Also not surprising that CGC is suddenly making it public how many 10’s they’re giving in their marketing material lately. Better start giving a whole lot more guys, just being honest.

Someone linked Poke Knowledge’s video in this thread, but he’s not the only one fed up. Old Skool Pokémon has said he’s over CGC, KetchumAllCollectibles put out a few videos now stating why he’s done with CGC, Echo Base Collectibles has put out a few videos mainly calling out the whole charge-your-credit-card-way-before-the-cards-ship-back maneuver CGC pulls on people, and there’s others. People that have been in the community a long time are just fed up. 
 

The community is being very vocal about what needs to be done, I hope CGC is listening. 

The level of consistency within the 8.5 range it what gets me. I don't disagree with every 8.5 I received. Some of them, the nick on the corner is too large to be a 9, or some of them have a print line that would knock it to an 8.5 or w/e, you get the idea. Then you get to the next 8.5 that's no scratching on foil, no print lines, no edge wear, no chips on corner etc, and just leaves me scratching my head. A few that are financially viable test subjects, I'm going to crack and resub elsewhere even if it's at a break even point with a 9 over an 8.5. I'm curious for one thing, but also, I don't want to sell so many 8.5s at dirt prices if I can hold and resub down the line and get more. Sending them off today, so hopefully in a few weeks I'll have an idea on how to proceed forward.

I also don't like having to hook up my air compressor and blow gun to get all this paper trash off the slabs either. Rather annoying.

Bruh

@PokemanDude90 they wildin out with these 8.5s

On 1/14/2022 at 6:59 PM, Oreos said:

Yup. Now if its 'Perfect' theyll put them on for free. So the 20+ 10's that I have will now be viewed as not 'Perfect' since they implemented this change now...

 

They should at least let their PREVIOUS customers who got 10's re-submit to check. I know they're trying to get new customers in as PSA lowers their prices; but dont just screw over previous customers. 

They've pulled off another shafting. How shocking. Didn't make sense that they didn't to begin with other than trying to weasel a few for bucks out of everyone for subs or a re-sub fee with subs. You should check out the comics area if you don't already. This place is turning into a monkey mess fight. Looks like even there long term customers ready to dip.

TAT higher than giraffe , QC is dog, they keep raising prices on everything, stupid mess like this with the grade changes to 10s.

They giving subs for free on perfect 10s now? 

Before you only got Perfect if you bought subs, and a Pristine otherwise correct?

On 1/12/2022 at 9:52 AM, William-James88 said:

I talked about 10s, not 9s

Do PSA 10s sell for more than CGC 10s? I heard they didn't.

By high grade I took that as 9, 9.5, 10 not specifically a 10. As few as CGC gives out, it might be similar to a black label from BGS and get more money. Hard to compare as there aren't many CGC 10s sold and the ones that I've seen mostly say best offer accepted so don't know the actual sell price.

PSA 10 gets more than the equivalent 9.5 CGC, and BGS. Stands to reason a perfect/pristine 10 would pull more but a lot of it probably depends on the card itself as well and how highly sought after it would be.

He should probably check this thread or card section. I would consider 8.5-9 still higher end of graded cards but it'll highlight some of the discrepancies with what's an 8.5 if he's considering getting cards graded. Last sub should be delivered today and I'll use some of those to highlight the issue.

https://boards.cgccomics.com/topic/501254-biggest-crossgrade-test-against-all-other-grading-companies-look-here-before-you-cross-grade/

On 1/12/2022 at 9:00 AM, William-James88 said:

For high grade Pokemon and Magic, it's CGC. They grade more strictly than the competition and are redefining what a 10.0 is

No dice on that one. PSA for Pokemon, and probably still BGS for MTG. I don't deal in MTG cards so haven't kept up, but they were the preferred by a long shot at one point. If you look for listings the vast majority are BGS graded compared to PSA. PSA still way over CGC, looking at base set Charizards in a 9 PSA doing around $1k-1.1. CGC 9 sold for $875 or lower on offer.

On 12/17/2021 at 11:13 AM, PokemanDude90 said:

So happy I waited 6 months for my bulk sub to get 8's and 8.5's!

Can't wait to spend the extra time and energy and money to crack many of these to send to a competitor to get the grades they deserve. Such a fun process grading with CGC!

I love 8.5's and the community does too! Yay!!

I wish there was a more detailed list to grading standards. Some things that I would think would be a 9. Mint being  pack fresh with a speck or two of whitening on the corners maybe the most tiny of foil scratches from the cards rubbing each other. See some that I feel like should be 9s, get an 8.5, then on the flip I see others that I would think would be an 8 get an 8.5. side by side the difference is too big eye appeal wise for them to both be 8.5s imo. I'm assuming it's a scenario in which you might have like 9 center, 9 surface, 9 corners, 7.5 edges and it gets that +1 bump compared to a card that's 2 9s, 2 8.5s.

So you end up with some that look really good, only a hair away from mint, and some with some pretty obvious defects.

On 1/5/2022 at 2:08 PM, PokemanDude90 said:

That Sabrina card looks like a 10 to me. We've been conditioned to hope for 9's haven't we. 

Typically, a 5 or 6 on an otherwise great looking card is due to a significant dent, usually a binder dent from a 3-ring binders.

If the card does NOT have a dent, you might want to send it back to CGC for review/regrade because mistakes can happen. 

 

 

It's been so long since I sent them in I can't remember which card had what. Like I said, lowest I've gotten on surface was a 5 and it was creased 🤔 the +1 bump to and overall 6 was everything else was at least 1 higher. Even if this one had a binder crease not sure how it would total out to a 5 when everything else is that clean.

Grades finally posted. Everything I thought might get a 9 was 8.5. check this one though. Have to look it over again in hand, but didn't think anything I sent in was in the 5 range. Worst card I sent in before was a Dark card with a crease and it was a 6. Can't upload front for some reason.

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On 1/4/2022 at 12:34 PM, InMyB4g said:

Literally same issue for me I just called and no hold surprisingly but I was charged before Christmas and still in G/E/I so guess we are playing the waiting game now 

This is the last of my orders still in their possession. Just need it to ship 🤣 still hasn't shipped as of right now so maybe within the next few weeks.

On 12/31/2021 at 12:51 PM, Ninja0215 said:

Perez book just went out this morning 

Somewhat strange that they are working today 🤔

On 12/30/2021 at 11:24 AM, HomeGrownPoke1 said:

I don't understand why CGC wouldn't call or email their customers if there is an issue with a submission.... Just doesn't make sense 😕 

They sent me an invoice that I need to pay some I'm assuming that's where it got the accounting hold. Email was on the 20th I believe at like 11:30 at night. I called the 21st to pay, couldn't get anyone in accounting. Same on 22nd so I used the CS extension and they sent an email to accounting to charge card. Morning of 23rd I'm billed and it moved to shipping apparently. Called CS back this morning, same woman I believe that sent the email to accounting last week. Told me it still had accounting hold, so she had to call them to remove it while I was on hold.

On 12/30/2021 at 9:24 AM, KianW said:

Keep me updated as I have called them probably five times this past week with no shipping

There was still an accounting hold on my order even though I paid the beginning of last week 🤦‍♂️

On 12/29/2021 at 11:23 PM, Furtnot said:

Mine shipped on 12/17 but has been stuck at the post office saying "package acceptance pending" since 12/20. I wonder what is going on

I guess I'll have to call them again. Mine haven't been marked as shipped which I find highly suspicious. 4+ days seems like an awfully long time for it to sit in outbound.

On 12/29/2021 at 3:36 PM, KianW said:

Friday the 17th or Monday the 20th I believe 

Dang, means it may not even ship until after the new year. Brutal.

On 12/29/2021 at 1:03 PM, KianW said:

This is crazy my cards that were done grading a week and a half ago have still not shipped. Had to change where they are shipping too because I will be going back to school soon. Customer service has been helpful and tried contacting the shipping department for me but the shipping department never got back to them

They told me mine went to shipping on 12/23 but still haven't made it out. What date was yours?

On 12/28/2021 at 8:23 PM, CGC Mike said:

PM me your account number and submission number.  I will make sure someone contacts you about this.

I called CS extension instead and they sent an email to accounting for me. Last week I called accounting probably 10-12 times at different points of the day over two days and no one ever answered. Sounds like he can't get anyone, so suggesting email will be easier for him.

Email them, I called for two days and could never get anyone.

On 12/28/2021 at 5:01 PM, HomeGrownPoke1 said:

Definitely doesn't seem right at all. Like you said, maybe they need to look into things in that grading room. There is no way 6 straight cards all have the same subgrades. Looks like they copy and pasted everything down the line. I can't wait to get my cards back so I can be done with all this BS.

Same, should be any day now. Even if something in this order is mislabeled or f'd up I don't care. Not sending it back 🤣. Not worth the price of my freedom from this company.

I did get a decent batch of 9's one sub, got some 8.5s I think should've been 8's and some 8.5's I think should've been 9's. It's never going to be perfect. Does seem a little suspect getting that many cards with exact subs in a row though. Curious to see how these team rocket cards grade if ever shipped though.

I wouldn't attempt that in reverse seeing as those are all older sub numbers starting with 4. Last PSA sub I had come back a few weeks ago were absolutely brutal. I wouldn't cross from CGC to PSA even if it's a 9.5 or 10. They're just arbitrarily handing out grades to keep their pop report under control right now. You could probably send a CGC Perfect 10 in and get back a PSA 8. 

BULK 126 no-subs

Delivered: 4/2

Received: 6/11

Grading/QC: Around 12/17

Invoiced :12/20, Paid 12/22.

Shipped: TBD. Probably next year.

Real f***ing considerate to invoice me right before Christmas on an order that won't get shipped for God knows how long due to the holidays.

On 12/22/2021 at 4:42 PM, Nickypoo said:

My bulk submission was finalized on Friday December 17th and they still haven't shipped!! I've called everyday this week to see if they have shipped them and just haven't marked it yet lol. They just tell me they are still in queue to be shipped. It's literally killing me. I want to know what grades I got 🤣🤣🤣 yes I know I am being impatient and yes I know it's annoying but I've been waiting since April 2nd when I first shipped them off to know what the grades are gonna be. JUST TELL ME THE GRADES 😂😂 Looks like I'll call again tomorrow 😅

I just paid an order that been there since April 2nd. If I would've known it wasn't going to get shipped due to backlog I wouldn't have paid yet. At least I wasn't billed 2 1/2 months before the order shipped like last time, I just left my balance low so it would decline until the order was near shipping. Really gets me heated that they charge before stuff is ready to go out the door. 

On 10/10/2021 at 10:20 AM, JasonCirceo said:

I called them several times already and keep getting the same answer that my cards have finished grading and the are waiting to be encapsulated but they are extremely back up. They all said I would get my cards in January. They said I may get my cards soon but shouldn’t count on it.

I wonder if it's an issue with manpower being able to encapsulate them, or supply chain for slabs. Mine always seem to ship on the current turn around time(not what TAT was when subbed) so I think they're reflective of what's going out the door that day. 

If turnaround is 180 days, the ones going out the door were received 180 days ago, not predictive of if you send it in today it will take 180 days. I could be wrong though. Just coincidentally always seem to line up with the most recent turnaround.

On 10/8/2021 at 9:00 PM, Oreos said:

I already recieved my 190 card sub grade bulk order from 4/30 back in my hands... maybe call them again.

Marked as received 4/30 or delivered on that date?