colugo Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 (edited) I am puzzled at the results from the grading of this really nice clean flat glossy sharp corners and edges white paged comic with no tics. Although a 9.6 is a nice grade to get, this book is practically a 9.9 the condition of the book is gorgeous and I believe all of you would agree if you were to hold this one in your hands. I have books that have never been handled since the day they were purchased off the racks. I'm at the point of not wanting to submit anymore, the same reason I quit a long time ago. I don't want to re-submit as the books can possibly get damaged the more I send them through the mail sytstem. I was watching how U.S. mail gets processed and they were showing the backroom tour, my jaw dropped to the ground and made me wonder had I packed that any less than I did, it surely wouldv'e been damaged. The other thing is that there were no notes taken, for the higher tier pricing I pay to have the books graded I would expect that. Oh and another thing when I handed the post office worker my box containing the comics, after processing it she threw it in the mail-bin. I asked her if she could be little bit more careful with it and she then asked me why, what's in it? WTF?() I was thinking to myself. Oh well? What do you people think? The back is just as nice as the front. Edited November 2, 2009 by colugo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-mack Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 looks alittle round on the lower right corner...maybe thats what did it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colugo Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 (edited) No, I have scans of it outside of the slab that show sharp corners. As I said previously it has all sharp corners and also the inside is untouched. This book has never been read as I have several of them. Don't take my word for it, here is the link on the "Hey Buddy can you spare a grade?" thread: http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3285014&fpart=1 You look at the corner and tell me. I can also see a sharp corner in the CGC case right at this moment. I went ahead and made the scan for the corner so you don't have to go through too much trouble to view it. Edited November 2, 2009 by colugo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue808 Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Beautiful book! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 These prisoners were just released from Sarasota. They were taken hostage at the SDCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlasFan Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Nice Superboys Silver! Do you have any of the Superboy MORE FUN issues? I would love to see them sometime. thanks, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_Henn Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 No, I have scans of it outside of the slab that show sharp corners. As I said previously it has all sharp corners and also the inside is untouched. This book has never been read as I have several of them. Don't take my word for it, here is the link on the "Hey Buddy can you spare a grade?" thread: http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3285014&fpart=1 You look at the corner and tell me. I can also see a sharp corner in the CGC case right at this moment. I went ahead and made the scan for the corner so you don't have to go through too much trouble to view it. Back cover slight thumb crease or barely visable bend or crease, faint...back cover? If it's a white back cover they can be even more difficult to see, you've got to hold them flat to the light to see it. Front looks good, I'm betting whatever the problem is, it's on the back cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colugo Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Back cover has no tics, crease, or bends. This book is as new as the day it was put on the rack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Uncle Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Sorry for the bad pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Sorry for the bad pictures Dreck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkKnightReturns Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 No, I have scans of it outside of the slab that show sharp corners. As I said previously it has all sharp corners and also the inside is untouched. This book has never been read as I have several of them. Don't take my word for it, here is the link on the "Hey Buddy can you spare a grade?" thread: http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3285014&fpart=1 You look at the corner and tell me. I can also see a sharp corner in the CGC case right at this moment. I went ahead and made the scan for the corner so you don't have to go through too much trouble to view it. Back cover slight thumb crease or barely visable bend or crease, faint...back cover? If it's a white back cover they can be even more difficult to see, you've got to hold them flat to the light to see it. Front looks good, I'm betting whatever the problem is, it's on the back cover. Possible slight bend? [/img] very very hard to tell. Beautiful book regardless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpComics.com Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Sorry for the bad pictures My kinda drek (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colugo Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 No, there is no bend. This copy is amazingly flat or creases, you just have to take my word for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colugo Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 No, I have scans of it outside of the slab that show sharp corners. As I said previously it has all sharp corners and also the inside is untouched. This book has never been read as I have several of them. Don't take my word for it, here is the link on the "Hey Buddy can you spare a grade?" thread: http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3285014&fpart=1 You look at the corner and tell me. I can also see a sharp corner in the CGC case right at this moment. I went ahead and made the scan for the corner so you don't have to go through too much trouble to view it. Back cover slight thumb crease or barely visable bend or crease, faint...back cover? If it's a white back cover they can be even more difficult to see, you've got to hold them flat to the light to see it. Front looks good, I'm betting whatever the problem is, it's on the back cover. Possible slight bend? [/img] very very hard to tell. Beautiful book regardless No, there is no bend. This copy is amazingly flat and no creases, you just have to take my word for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_Henn Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 (edited) No, I have scans of it outside of the slab that show sharp corners. As I said previously it has all sharp corners and also the inside is untouched. This book has never been read as I have several of them. Don't take my word for it, here is the link on the "Hey Buddy can you spare a grade?" thread: http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3285014&fpart=1 You look at the corner and tell me. I can also see a sharp corner in the CGC case right at this moment. I went ahead and made the scan for the corner so you don't have to go through too much trouble to view it. Back cover slight thumb crease or barely visable bend or crease, faint...back cover? If it's a white back cover they can be even more difficult to see, you've got to hold them flat to the light to see it. Front looks good, I'm betting whatever the problem is, it's on the back cover. Possible slight bend? [/img] very very hard to tell. Beautiful book regardless No, there is no bend. This copy is amazingly flat and no creases, you just have to take my word for it. I would suggest holding it till the next show where there is onsite grading, take it with you (I don't know where you're at, but there's Wiz World Philly, Chicago, NY, etc) and have Paul or someone take a quick look at it. Have them point out to you what the flaw was, or maybe see right there if it's worth a 2nd look. You never know. That's what I would do. Or call them and ask if you can mail it to them to get feedback so they can hold it and look at it and talk to you on the phone. If for nothing else, it's worth the postage to find out for your peace of mind. Edited November 3, 2009 by Rich_Henn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbanner Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Got three of my babies back today. I will post some scans later tonight if at all possible. MY CGC package contained: Mask Comics 1 (Classic LB Cole cover and art) 6.0 OW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradleyX2 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I am puzzled at the results from the grading of this really nice clean flat glossy sharp corners and edges white paged comic with no tics. Although a 9.6 is a nice grade to get, this book is practically a 9.9 the condition of the book is gorgeous and I believe all of you would agree if you were to hold this one in your hands. I have books that have never been handled since the day they were purchased off the racks. I'm at the point of not wanting to submit anymore, the same reason I quit a long time ago. I don't want to re-submit as the books can possibly get damaged the more I send them through the mail sytstem. I was watching how U.S. mail gets processed and they were showing the backroom tour, my jaw dropped to the ground and made me wonder had I packed that any less than I did, it surely wouldv'e been damaged. The other thing is that there were no notes taken, for the higher tier pricing I pay to have the books graded I would expect that. Oh and another thing when I handed the post office worker my box containing the comics, after processing it she threw it in the mail-bin. I asked her if she could be little bit more careful with it and she then asked me why, what's in it? WTF?() I was thinking to myself. Oh well? What do you people think? The back is just as nice as the front. Hi colugo! I’m not sure why you say there were no notes taken on this book (weather that’s your error or ours), but we do have notes on it. The 2 things the pre-grader specified were that there are some indents on the front cover by the Black Panther’s head, and there are a couple of lite spine stresses on the back cover. I hope that helps you out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colugo Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I am puzzled at the results from the grading of this really nice clean flat glossy sharp corners and edges white paged comic with no tics. Although a 9.6 is a nice grade to get, this book is practically a 9.9 the condition of the book is gorgeous and I believe all of you would agree if you were to hold this one in your hands. I have books that have never been handled since the day they were purchased off the racks. I'm at the point of not wanting to submit anymore, the same reason I quit a long time ago. I don't want to re-submit as the books can possibly get damaged the more I send them through the mail sytstem. I was watching how U.S. mail gets processed and they were showing the backroom tour, my jaw dropped to the ground and made me wonder had I packed that any less than I did, it surely wouldv'e been damaged. The other thing is that there were no notes taken, for the higher tier pricing I pay to have the books graded I would expect that. Oh and another thing when I handed the post office worker my box containing the comics, after processing it she threw it in the mail-bin. I asked her if she could be little bit more careful with it and she then asked me why, what's in it? WTF?() I was thinking to myself. Oh well? What do you people think? The back is just as nice as the front. Hi colugo! I’m not sure why you say there were no notes taken on this book (weather that’s your error or ours), but we do have notes on it. The 2 things the pre-grader specified were that there are some indents on the front cover by the Black Panther’s head, and there are a couple of lite spine stresses on the back cover. I hope that helps you out! My apologies on that, yes there were notes from that batch which I got confused from the the last batch, were there wasn't notes taken. My fault and sorry about the mix up. Anyway the marks by the Panthers head were produced mechanically during the production of the comic, I have several other books that show the same track marks on the very minor markings. I'll see about trying to get some examples so you can see for your comparison. Colugo I also wanted to state on this board since I'm a member of the community, that you really can't blame me for being upset, and confused, as I see books come out of CGC with similiar grades and some of those books are obviously in poorer condition. Most people are gonna feel that way to. I just don't get the inconsistencies of CGC on some of the grading. How does the Avengers 78 get a 9.6 that's currently posted on Comiclink get that grade? I have many .jpg examples showing 9.8's with obvious wear to the cover and that always brings me to ask how did those ones get that grade? I've been told by CGC that "We don't know what the people do with books after they have been graded?" I just don't see people playing frisbee with their highly graded encapsulated CGC'd comics I would say the majority of these older much more expensive books are being stored in optimal conditions with very little disturbance. Link showing wear on cover of Avengers 78 on CL: Avengers 78 There have been many other example as well, here's another one of the Avengers: Avengers 93 X-men with scuffing around the edges and soft corners even with the new corner well in the CGC casing: X-Men 58 Here's a link to the copy I have: http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3285121&fpart=3 Sorry if I stirred the hornets nest, CGC probably hates me now, and I have to go to PGX to get my books graded. Take care, Colugo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivegotneatstuff Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 um - all i want to know is what kind of scanner you are using.. it looks AWESOME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlowUpTheMoon Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 How does the Avengers 78 get a 9.6 that's currently posted on Comiclink get that grade? I have many .jpg examples showing 9.8's with obvious wear to the cover and that always brings me to ask how did those ones get that grade? Wow. Arguing a nice grade, even after a grader looked up the notes and told you what was wrong with the book. Also, it's nearly impossible to determine 9.8s or 9.6 based on scans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
