Popular Post Ryan. Posted December 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2022 Point Five, Dr. Love, Changer and 13 others 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicnoir Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 On 12/24/2022 at 1:49 PM, Changer said: enjoying the twins The left one seems to have slightly more eye appeal. Changer and szucchini 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plady69 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 On 12/24/2022 at 12:44 PM, Ryan. said: I was always curious why these Golden Age romance titles had couples that looked they are 30 years old! The Archie titles and others had real teenagers. Strange… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 (edited) Are 30 year olds not supposed to date? I don't understand why that would be strange. Edited December 24, 2022 by Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plady69 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 On 12/24/2022 at 3:38 PM, Ryan. said: Are 30 year olds not supposed to date? I don't understand why that would be strange. Most couples in the 50s married out of high school or college (17-25). The “Romance” was gone after the first couple of kids! Point Five 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Point Five Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 There's definitely a conversation to be had about why e.g. the couples on the covers of St. John titles like Teen-Age Romances and the above Going Steady look like their ages are skewing to late 20s (charitably) or 30s. My guess has long been that if teenagers to college students were buying romance comics, St. John/Baker tried to make the covers more 'aspirational' by making the characters slightly more mature and sophisticated. But that's just a guess. Thoughts? Chief1332 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Changer Posted December 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 25, 2022 (edited) Some more Bakers came in from CGC today so Economy sent in January, back under 12 months at least p.s interesting that this year my vuescan software was crashing my HP 8200, finally tried a windows scanning app works again, but now I have 2 hp 8200 Edited December 25, 2022 by Changer comicnoir, pmpknface, Wazdakka and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Changer Posted December 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 25, 2022 (edited) Bought this one this month, kinda spendy for 2.5 but presents well. Edited December 25, 2022 by Changer Point Five, szucchini, Yorick and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ricksneatstuff Posted December 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 25, 2022 On 12/24/2022 at 9:37 PM, Changer said: Bought this one this month, kinda spendy for 2.5 but presents well. A nice presenting 2.5 is all you need GreatCaesarsGhost, Changer, pmpknface and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plady69 Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 On 12/24/2022 at 6:50 PM, Point Five said: There's definitely a conversation to be had about why e.g. the couples on the covers of St. John titles like Teen-Age Romances and the above Going Steady look like their ages are skewing to late 20s (charitably) or 30s. My guess has long been that if teenagers to college students were buying romance comics, St. John/Baker tried to make the covers more 'aspirational' by making the characters slightly more mature and sophisticated. But that's just a guess. Thoughts? Good point. I will put that in my pipe and smoke it! 🤔 Point Five 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 On 12/24/2022 at 9:50 PM, Point Five said: There's definitely a conversation to be had about why e.g. the couples on the covers of St. John titles like Teen-Age Romances and the above Going Steady look like their ages are skewing to late 20s (charitably) or 30s. My guess has long been that if teenagers to college students were buying romance comics, St. John/Baker tried to make the covers more 'aspirational' by making the characters slightly more mature and sophisticated. But that's just a guess. Thoughts? Definitely possible. Baker also drew the majority of these covers while he was in his 30s and, for his own reasons, unmarried, so it may have felt more authentic to him to draw people closer to his own age. Point Five 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 On 12/24/2022 at 9:50 PM, Point Five said: There's definitely a conversation to be had about why e.g. the couples on the covers of St. John titles like Teen-Age Romances and the above Going Steady look like their ages are skewing to late 20s (charitably) or 30s. My guess has long been that if teenagers to college students were buying romance comics, St. John/Baker tried to make the covers more 'aspirational' by making the characters slightly more mature and sophisticated. But that's just a guess. Thoughts? editor was a dirty old man Point Five, jimjum12 and PeterPark 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPark Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 On 12/28/2022 at 4:02 PM, Funnybooks said: editor was a dirty old man "Nah Matt, do it more like Teen-age Temptations 2...that was the BEST!" Funnybooks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plady69 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 On 12/28/2022 at 12:59 PM, Ryan. said: Definitely possible. Baker also drew the majority of these covers while he was in his 30s and, for his own reasons, unmarried, so it may have felt more authentic to him to draw people closer to his own age. Another good point. Firing up the pipe again… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ageofsilver Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 All good thoughts, but I like Point Five’s best. When I was pre-teen and teenager, one of my greatest drivers was to be older. The perceived freedom, the things one would be able to own (eg. cars and motorcycles), and the fulfillment of new desires was strong. Seeing older guys with their cars, girlfriends and no parents involved was intoxicating. Baker’s older couples also fit with the perception I have of teen and twenties people in movies of the era as just looking older. Bacall was 16 in her first roll with Bogart, I believe. Did not look it. Just 2 cents. plady69 and Point Five 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yorick Posted December 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 29, 2022 Chief1332, Point Five, PeterPark and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBFan Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 St. John Matt Baker covers with older looking characters are mostly, if not all, from the time when the Comics Code Authority was coming into play. The obvious examples are from late 1954 onward, after the Senate hearings in April and June of ’54. Matt was a pro and delivered what his clients ordered. He probably wouldn’t begin to age cover characters on a whim. More likely, St. John was avoiding trouble by having Baker depict people in such a way that they couldn’t possibly be mistaken for young teen-agers. Situations on Baker covers during that period are clearly college or young adult oriented. No more promiscuous, trash talking teens on the beach! Point Five, Dr. Love, comicnoir and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 MyComicShop has one?!! Spoiler Point Five 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicnoir Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Another triumph for Matt. https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/romance/diary-secrets-26-st-john-1954-cgc-vg-45-off-white-to-white-pages/a/122301-11373.s?type=bidnotice-dailystatus PeterPark, Point Five, szucchini and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief1332 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 On 1/2/2023 at 3:50 PM, comicnoir said: Another triumph for Matt. https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/romance/diary-secrets-26-st-john-1954-cgc-vg-45-off-white-to-white-pages/a/122301-11373.s?type=bidnotice-dailystatus Love that cover comicnoir and comicjack 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...