Sqeggs Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Baker cover: Either, neither, or both? The Adventure is definitely Baker. The Police Cases definitely isn't Baker (but I'm not sure who it is.) Probably right and consistent with the Art of Glamour checklist. The Police Cases seems rather crudely rendered to me. I had a thought that maybe it was an early version by Baker that he never finished. Most likely not, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29dukedog Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 In a related matter, the All-Picture Adventures #2 currently being auctioned on eBay by bakerfan is advertised as having Baker art. The cover certainly isn't Baker, so it must be in one of the issues rebound inside the book. I asked the seller if he knew, but he never responded. Perhaps he just assumed the book contains Baker, but when questioned, he discovered it really doesn't. So, since we are left to guess... I'd imagine if it does have any Baker inside, it would probably be Canteen Kate from an issue of Fightin' Marines. The Art of Glamour checklist lists Baker as possibly having done the title. How on earth you could decide that, I don't know. Kind of like All-Picture Comedy Carnival. Some copies -- but not all -- contain a remaindered copy of TAR 27. Metro had a raw copy that they advertised as containing Baker art. I asked them to list the stories in their copy -- none had art by Baker. Even after I told them that, they were still listing it as having Baker art. Not sure whether it's still on their site. Oh, you mean, Baker apparently designed the book's logo? I never did pick up the Art of Glamour book. Yeah, I don't know how one could make that kind of determination. Unless there is documentation, or first hand witness testimony, it's just someone's opinion. (Like All-Picture All-True Love Story #2 not being a Baker cover.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 In a related matter, the All-Picture Adventures #2 currently being auctioned on eBay by bakerfan is advertised as having Baker art. The cover certainly isn't Baker, so it must be in one of the issues rebound inside the book. I asked the seller if he knew, but he never responded. Perhaps he just assumed the book contains Baker, but when questioned, he discovered it really doesn't. So, since we are left to guess... I'd imagine if it does have any Baker inside, it would probably be Canteen Kate from an issue of Fightin' Marines. The Art of Glamour checklist lists Baker as possibly having done the title. How on earth you could decide that, I don't know. Kind of like All-Picture Comedy Carnival. Some copies -- but not all -- contain a remaindered copy of TAR 27. Metro had a raw copy that they advertised as containing Baker art. I asked them to list the stories in their copy -- none had art by Baker. Even after I told them that, they were still listing it as having Baker art. Not sure whether it's still on their site. Oh, you mean, Baker apparently designed the book's logo? I never did pick up the Art of Glamour book. Yeah, I don't know how one could make that kind of determination. Unless there is documentation, or first hand witness testimony, it's just someone's opinion. (Like All-Picture All-True Love Story #2 not being a Baker cover.) I think by title they do mean logo. You are right that without documentation, it's hard to attribute something like a logo. I imagine they must have had some reason, though. They do credit him with the cover of All-Picture All True-Love Story 2, although it's certainly not his typical style, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29dukedog Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 In a related matter, the All-Picture Adventures #2 currently being auctioned on eBay by bakerfan is advertised as having Baker art. The cover certainly isn't Baker, so it must be in one of the issues rebound inside the book. I asked the seller if he knew, but he never responded. Perhaps he just assumed the book contains Baker, but when questioned, he discovered it really doesn't. So, since we are left to guess... I'd imagine if it does have any Baker inside, it would probably be Canteen Kate from an issue of Fightin' Marines. Well, I spoke a little too soon. The seller just replied and told me the interior Baker is from an issue of Authentic Police Cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlee Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Baker cover: Either, neither, or both? The Adventure is definitely Baker. The Police Cases definitely isn't Baker (but I'm not sure who it is.) Probably right and consistent with the Art of Glamour checklist. The Police Cases seems rather crudely rendered to me. I had a thought that maybe it was an early version by Baker that he never finished. Most likely not, though. Agree 100% that the Adventure is definitely a Baker cover and the Police Cases is definitely not. The cover reminds me of some of the art and covers from Authentic Police Cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Man Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 In a related matter, the All-Picture Adventures #2 currently being auctioned on eBay by bakerfan is advertised as having Baker art. The cover certainly isn't Baker, so it must be in one of the issues rebound inside the book. I asked the seller if he knew, but he never responded. Perhaps he just assumed the book contains Baker, but when questioned, he discovered it really doesn't. So, since we are left to guess... I'd imagine if it does have any Baker inside, it would probably be Canteen Kate from an issue of Fightin' Marines. The Art of Glamour checklist lists Baker as possibly having done the title. How on earth you could decide that, I don't know. Kind of like All-Picture Comedy Carnival. Some copies -- but not all -- contain a remaindered copy of TAR 27. Metro had a raw copy that they advertised as containing Baker art. I asked them to list the stories in their copy -- none had art by Baker. Even after I told them that, they were still listing it as having Baker art. Not sure whether it's still on their site. Oh, you mean, Baker apparently designed the book's logo? I never did pick up the Art of Glamour book. Yeah, I don't know how one could make that kind of determination. Unless there is documentation, or first hand witness testimony, it's just someone's opinion. (Like All-Picture All-True Love Story #2 not being a Baker cover.) All Picture Comedy Carnival comes in two versions I know of. One has no Baker and the other one I have has Canteen Kate #3 in it. Might be other contents but those are the only two I have seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29dukedog Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 What I find interesting are the 100 page St. Johns that were made up of new material (Pictorial Romances 17 thru 20, and True Love Pictorial 3 thru 5), but are known to have rebound variants. Both PR 19 and TLP 4 are known to have variants with rebound contents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Man Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 I remember the "good old days" when no one wanted these. I've always collected annuals and was lucky enough to get most of them pretty cheap. That ship has sailed now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 In a related matter, the All-Picture Adventures #2 currently being auctioned on eBay by bakerfan is advertised as having Baker art. The cover certainly isn't Baker, so it must be in one of the issues rebound inside the book. I asked the seller if he knew, but he never responded. Perhaps he just assumed the book contains Baker, but when questioned, he discovered it really doesn't. So, since we are left to guess... I'd imagine if it does have any Baker inside, it would probably be Canteen Kate from an issue of Fightin' Marines. The Art of Glamour checklist lists Baker as possibly having done the title. How on earth you could decide that, I don't know. Kind of like All-Picture Comedy Carnival. Some copies -- but not all -- contain a remaindered copy of TAR 27. Metro had a raw copy that they advertised as containing Baker art. I asked them to list the stories in their copy -- none had art by Baker. Even after I told them that, they were still listing it as having Baker art. Not sure whether it's still on their site. Oh, you mean, Baker apparently designed the book's logo? I never did pick up the Art of Glamour book. Yeah, I don't know how one could make that kind of determination. Unless there is documentation, or first hand witness testimony, it's just someone's opinion. (Like All-Picture All-True Love Story #2 not being a Baker cover.) All Picture Comedy Carnival comes in two versions I know of. One has no Baker and the other one I have has Canteen Kate #3 in it. Might be other contents but those are the only two I have seen. In my post -- which you quote! -- I mention that my copy contains a remaindered copy of TAR 27. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29dukedog Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 In a related matter, the All-Picture Adventures #2 currently being auctioned on eBay by bakerfan is advertised as having Baker art. The cover certainly isn't Baker, so it must be in one of the issues rebound inside the book. I asked the seller if he knew, but he never responded. Perhaps he just assumed the book contains Baker, but when questioned, he discovered it really doesn't. So, since we are left to guess... I'd imagine if it does have any Baker inside, it would probably be Canteen Kate from an issue of Fightin' Marines. The Art of Glamour checklist lists Baker as possibly having done the title. How on earth you could decide that, I don't know. Kind of like All-Picture Comedy Carnival. Some copies -- but not all -- contain a remaindered copy of TAR 27. Metro had a raw copy that they advertised as containing Baker art. I asked them to list the stories in their copy -- none had art by Baker. Even after I told them that, they were still listing it as having Baker art. Not sure whether it's still on their site. Oh, you mean, Baker apparently designed the book's logo? I never did pick up the Art of Glamour book. Yeah, I don't know how one could make that kind of determination. Unless there is documentation, or first hand witness testimony, it's just someone's opinion. (Like All-Picture All-True Love Story #2 not being a Baker cover.) All Picture Comedy Carnival comes in two versions I know of. One has no Baker and the other one I have has Canteen Kate #3 in it. Might be other contents but those are the only two I have seen. In my post -- which you quote! -- I mention that my copy contains a remaindered copy of TAR 27. Hey- I used to have one of those, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 In a related matter, the All-Picture Adventures #2 currently being auctioned on eBay by bakerfan is advertised as having Baker art. The cover certainly isn't Baker, so it must be in one of the issues rebound inside the book. I asked the seller if he knew, but he never responded. Perhaps he just assumed the book contains Baker, but when questioned, he discovered it really doesn't. So, since we are left to guess... I'd imagine if it does have any Baker inside, it would probably be Canteen Kate from an issue of Fightin' Marines. The Art of Glamour checklist lists Baker as possibly having done the title. How on earth you could decide that, I don't know. Kind of like All-Picture Comedy Carnival. Some copies -- but not all -- contain a remaindered copy of TAR 27. Metro had a raw copy that they advertised as containing Baker art. I asked them to list the stories in their copy -- none had art by Baker. Even after I told them that, they were still listing it as having Baker art. Not sure whether it's still on their site. Oh, you mean, Baker apparently designed the book's logo? I never did pick up the Art of Glamour book. Yeah, I don't know how one could make that kind of determination. Unless there is documentation, or first hand witness testimony, it's just someone's opinion. (Like All-Picture All-True Love Story #2 not being a Baker cover.) All Picture Comedy Carnival comes in two versions I know of. One has no Baker and the other one I have has Canteen Kate #3 in it. Might be other contents but those are the only two I have seen. In my post -- which you quote! -- I mention that my copy contains a remaindered copy of TAR 27. Hey- I used to have one of those, too! An uncanny coincidence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29dukedog Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 What you say to cats: Kind of like All-Picture Comedy Carnival. Some copies -- but not all -- contain a remaindered copy of TAR 27. What they hear: ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Man Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) In a related matter, the All-Picture Adventures #2 currently being auctioned on eBay by bakerfan is advertised as having Baker art. The cover certainly isn't Baker, so it must be in one of the issues rebound inside the book. I asked the seller if he knew, but he never responded. Perhaps he just assumed the book contains Baker, but when questioned, he discovered it really doesn't. So, since we are left to guess... I'd imagine if it does have any Baker inside, it would probably be Canteen Kate from an issue of Fightin' Marines. The Art of Glamour checklist lists Baker as possibly having done the title. How on earth you could decide that, I don't know. Kind of like All-Picture Comedy Carnival. Some copies -- but not all -- contain a remaindered copy of TAR 27. Metro had a raw copy that they advertised as containing Baker art. I asked them to list the stories in their copy -- none had art by Baker. Even after I told them that, they were still listing it as having Baker art. Not sure whether it's still on their site. Oh, you mean, Baker apparently designed the book's logo? I never did pick up the Art of Glamour book. Yeah, I don't know how one could make that kind of determination. Unless there is documentation, or first hand witness testimony, it's just someone's opinion. (Like All-Picture All-True Love Story #2 not being a Baker cover.) All Picture Comedy Carnival comes in two versions I know of. One has no Baker and the other one I have has Canteen Kate #3 in it. Might be other contents but those are the only two I have seen. In my post -- which you quote! -- I mention that my copy contains a remaindered copy of TAR 27. So does that mean there are three versions? Edited April 17, 2016 by Robot Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29dukedog Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 In a related matter, the All-Picture Adventures #2 currently being auctioned on eBay by bakerfan is advertised as having Baker art. The cover certainly isn't Baker, so it must be in one of the issues rebound inside the book. I asked the seller if he knew, but he never responded. Perhaps he just assumed the book contains Baker, but when questioned, he discovered it really doesn't. So, since we are left to guess... I'd imagine if it does have any Baker inside, it would probably be Canteen Kate from an issue of Fightin' Marines. The Art of Glamour checklist lists Baker as possibly having done the title. How on earth you could decide that, I don't know. Kind of like All-Picture Comedy Carnival. Some copies -- but not all -- contain a remaindered copy of TAR 27. Metro had a raw copy that they advertised as containing Baker art. I asked them to list the stories in their copy -- none had art by Baker. Even after I told them that, they were still listing it as having Baker art. Not sure whether it's still on their site. Oh, you mean, Baker apparently designed the book's logo? I never did pick up the Art of Glamour book. Yeah, I don't know how one could make that kind of determination. Unless there is documentation, or first hand witness testimony, it's just someone's opinion. (Like All-Picture All-True Love Story #2 not being a Baker cover.) All Picture Comedy Carnival comes in two versions I know of. One has no Baker and the other one I have has Canteen Kate #3 in it. Might be other contents but those are the only two I have seen. In my post -- which you quote! -- I mention that my copy contains a remaindered copy of TAR 27. So does that mean there are three versions? At least three. Probably several combinations of the three interior remaindered books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicnoir Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) It's in the next CLink auction. No mention by CGC or the auction house of Baker's contribution. http://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2Fauctions%2Fpreview%2Easp%3Fcode%3D2016may%23Item_1114749&id=1114749 Edited April 18, 2016 by comicnoir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29dukedog Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 It's in the next CLink auction. No mention by CGC or the auction house of Baker's contribution. http://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2Fauctions%2Fpreview%2Easp%3Fcode%3D2016may%23Item_1114749&id=1114749 That might've been to our advantage... had there been a shred of doubt as to who is going to end up winning it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPark Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 It's in the next CLink auction. No mention by CGC or the auction house of Baker's contribution. http://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2Fauctions%2Fpreview%2Easp%3Fcode%3D2016may%23Item_1114749&id=1114749 That might've been to our advantage... had there been a shred of doubt as to who is going to end up winning it. I must be out of the loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29dukedog Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 For as long as I've been collecting Bakers, there has always been someone against whom I didn't stand a chance of outbidding. Besides, they're only doing exactly what I, myself, would do, if I had the same resources. My usual habit has been to just wait until the super-collectors finish buying the books they want (and you'd be surprised how little time that can often take. Joe Serpico, a remorseless and unstoppable force of nature, was here and gone in about two years, and then disappeared entirely). Hopefully, in the meantime, nobody else has popped up to replace them. But fortunately, competitive auctions are not the only way obtain books. Many of my best Bakers came from other collectors, non-eBay comic shops (internet and physical stores), quite a few eBay BIN's, and plain old good luck- just being in the right place at the right time. There have been plenty of opportunities that money couldn't buy. It also doesn't hurt that I've been collecting Bakers since about 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 It's in the next CLink auction. No mention by CGC or the auction house of Baker's contribution. http://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2Fauctions%2Fpreview%2Easp%3Fcode%3D2016may%23Item_1114749&id=1114749 That might've been to our advantage... had there been a shred of doubt as to who is going to end up winning it. Will that guy never stop! Thank the Lord I already have 12 copies of this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicnoir Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 It's in the next CLink auction. No mention by CGC or the auction house of Baker's contribution. http://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2Fauctions%2Fpreview%2Easp%3Fcode%3D2016may%23Item_1114749&id=1114749 That might've been to our advantage... had there been a shred of doubt as to who is going to end up winning it. Will that guy never stop! Thank the Lord I already have 12 copies of this one. Oh wow, could you post all 12 for us? Please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...