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[RockMyAmadeus]

Little help please, how is this a first print: http://www.ebay.com/itm/140492619666?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

I thought the black spiderman head was the giveaway that it was a reprint? Then I found this one from the same seller and it is marked as a second print but I don't see any difference: http://www.ebay.com/itm/130499525701?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Thanks.

 

They're both second prints, CGC didn't mark the first one correctly, they missed that it was a second print.

 

The seller probably didn't put on the invoice form that it was a second print, and CGC also missed it.

 

not so fast.

 

You can't just go by "Black Spidey" = 2nd print. It depends on the issue.

 

For example Joe #26 1st prints are the Black Spidey; however, the price changes from .60 to .75 on the 2nd printing.

 

Issues 18, 25, 29 and 30 you can't tell by the cover. Both the 1st prints and 2nd prints have the Black Spidey AND the same price.

 

Those books are probably graded correctly.

 

Not so fast yourself.

 

You can tell 1st from 2nd prints on 18 and 30 by the cover. It's the price box that is the key here. All the direct first prints will have the price in the Marvel "M" box, the second prints look like the photo in the auction.

 

The black Spidey started part way through issue #22. Some copies of 22 are white spidey, some are black, they are both first prints.

 

picture of white spidey #22 1st print

picture of black spidey #22 first print.

 

Not so fast, part the third.

 

 

Joe #22, since it came out the month BEFORE Spidey #252, has a regular Spidey head. If it has a black Spidey head, it is a second printing, NOT a first printing.

[RockMyAmadeus]

Yes, the 2nd printings of 3, 4 and 5 were all printed at the same time as issue #11. You can tell becuase of the ads on the back cover and throughout the book match to issue #11.

 

Interesting...I didn't know that about #3. I knew they were different, and I have both, though I didn't realize there was a "second print" as it were

 

I don't (necessarily) agree that #5 was reprinted at the same time as #3 and #4, because of the 75 cent cover price (which both would have been odd to reprint the 3, leave the price the same on 2, and change the one, and because only mini-series books at this time carried a 75 cent cover price.)

 

My #5 second print is in a box and God only knows where, so I can't compare ads (though that's not necessarily a tell, it's better than cover price much of the time.)

 

Here's info that I posted elsewhere:

 

I think it was called a second printing. I think Star Wars 1 went to a second printing but was still designated as the first printing, but I'm not 100% sure of that.

 

The Star Wars are all designated "reprint", whether on the cover or in the indicia.

 

GI Joe #2 second printing didn't come out until 1985-86 (hence the 75 cent cover price) and was bagged with #26 and #27 second prints.

 

The earliest second prints chronologically are probably #3 and #4, but they are not marked as second printings (the #3 is easy to tell: it has the Marvel "M", rather than the price diamond.) #4 is told by the ads: this book originally came out in 1982. Second printings have an ultra-slightly different font in the price box, and Return of the Jedi game ad on the back (making them 1983 reprints.)

 

But again, they aren't marked as second printings.

 

The chronology of the printings is tough. We have to consider the clues:

 

First: cover price. Is it 60 cents, 65 cents, or 75 cents? This is not conclusive. Later printings could easily have just used the earlier cover price. Assuming they didn't, the earliest book that is actually marked second printing would be #7, which has a 60 cent cover price.

 

But a wrench in this theory is #5: #5 second print has a 75 cent cover price, but was apparently included in #3-5 3-packs, which doesn't square with either the ads or the then-current cover price.

 

What is reasonable to conclude is this: while it's possible that later printings simply used the expired cover prices instead of updating them to then-current prices, it's not likely that a standard book reprinted in 1984 would have a 65 or 75 cent cover price or a standard book reprinted in 1985 would have a 75 cent cover price, especially given the evidence of 60 and 65 cent reprints (which shows an effort to maintain whatever the pricing was for standard books at the time of the printing.)

 

Second: Spidey head in the UPC box. We know that no reprint could have a black Spidey head in the UPC box before June, 1984 cover date, as it didn't exist. So, for #3 and #4 (but NOT #5!), we can safely conclude they were reprinted

 

Third: Cover price for new issues of GI Joe. With issue #34, the April, 1985 issue, the cover price for the regular line went to 75 cents, when the rest of the standard Marvel line went to 65 cents. This is unique to GI Joe. There are NO 65 cent regular issues of GI Joe!

 

Since the 65 cent cover price only lasted for 10 months, it is likely (but not guaranteed!) that the handful of 65 cent later printings (#14, #23, #29) were reprinted in this 10 month time span (4/85 to 2/86.)

 

So, what's the first issue that's called "second printing"? I'm going with #7.

 

By the way...the first no-contest "second printing" based on sellout demand that Marvel ever did?

 

Ghost Rider #1, 1990.

[Silent Master]

I'm trying to find a raw blank sketch cover for Hama #200. LCS didn't order me one and now I can't find it anywhere. The retailer incentive B cover, not the Yesteryear cover.

 

I'm also trying to fill a few gaps in my collection. If this is the wrong place for this, I apologize. These just never seem to come up on ebay:

 

Cobra II #1 2nd print

GI Joe vs Cobra #3 2010 con edition

GI Joe #3 (Civil War) RIB

Hearts and Minds Barnes and Noble #1 and #3

Danger Girl/GI Joe #1 RIB J. Scott Campbell unique sketch cover

Marvel Special Missions #1 Zeck sketch

 

I'm not a CGC guy, but I am a raw book GI Joe completist. Missing this many comics sometimes keeps me up at night. Thanks for any help!

 

Look what's on E-Bay!!!

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/G-I-JOE-HEARTS-MINDS-3-BARNES-NOBLE-RED-VARIANT-/231218854898?pt=US_Comic_Books&hash=item35d5b7bbf2

[Shotgun Stallion-migration]

Thanks for the heads up, but that particular issue has a sticker on it. Some Barnes & Nobles add their own sticker over the printed barcode. I have a #2 with no sticker and am still looking for 1 and 3. It's awfully cool of you to keep an eye out though!

[Shotgun Stallion-migration]

I actually would go for a stickered #1. I already have a stickered #3 as a place holder.

[Silent Master]

Yeah the majority of those had that sticker, those without are rare to non-existent. I'll try to keep my eye for you.

[B-Smooth]

Looks like it can be removed if you're EXTREMELY careful. I've managed to take a few off of some common marvels as practice, and it can be done. If it's an expensive book, I'd never chance it, though.

[zekebarrett]

I've used a heat gun and some patience and normally I've been able to remove stickers with no residue.

[mike-honcho]

not too many gi joe issues on my list. mostly just trying to get some of the keys, and finally found one of them last week. scooped it up for a cool dollar in a big lot of books i bought last weekend. super stoked.

 

[MisterX]

Hey, G.I. Joe experts --

 

Is the G.I. Joe: Trojan Gambit GN with the Earl Norem cover just a reprint of one of the earlier issues? #3 maybe?

 

Thanks!

[Shotgun Stallion-migration]

Trojan Gambit reprints a few issues:

http://www.yojoe.com/archive/books/marvelbook3.shtml

Edited May 5, 2014 by Shotgun Stallion

[MisterX]

Trojan Gambit reprints a few issues:

http://www.yojoe.com/archive/books/marvelbook3.shtml

 

Thanks for the info.

 

WTTB!

[Buzzetta]

Anyone see this is coming out?

 

As soon as I figure out another $20 worth of things I want to order I am picking it up:

 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1631400355/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1631400355&linkCode=as2&tag=genera09d-20&linkId=TLFRTUHDSQ2WPIAG

 

G.I. JOE: Silent Interlude 30th Anniversary Edition Hardcover – Deluxe Edition, July 1, 2014

by Larry Hama (Author, Illustrator), Steve Leialoha (Illustrator)

Hardcover

$15.17

 

 

SILENT INVASION! The story that defined a generation - G.I. Joe #21 - remastered from the original art and lovingly recolored to the highest of contemporary standards. This wordless issue introduced the world to Snake Eye's mysterious nemesis Storm Shadow and his Arashikage Ninja - and they've never looked better. Plus, catch an unprecedented glimpse of Larry Hama's original layouts and Steve Leialoha's finishes, and a look behind the scenes of the comic's creation - and at its enduring legacy! Contains all-new commentary by Larry Hama!

 

 

Edited May 11, 2014 by Buzzetta

[zekebarrett]

Not a bad price. I preordered mine from DCBS for $12.99.

[OV]

I had this Larry Hama sketch inked by the very gracious Steve Leialoha at the recent Big Wow con. I'll share a couple of others soon! (thumbs u

 

[philsbackpack]

That is awesome

[Silent Master]

That is very nice!!!

[OV]

Thanks fellas! Here is another Hama sketche I had inked by Dexter Vines at the show. (thumbs u

 

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AND did I mention I got a second print GI Joe #21 signed by Steve at the show too?!?!?

 

I bet GI Joe comic fans from all over fainted when they read that line above. But now you know, and knowing is......

 

 

[Silent Master]

[maloney414]

AND did I mention I got a second print GI Joe #21 signed by Steve at the show too?!?!?

 

Just kidding! It's a third print. I bet GI Joe comic fans from all over fainted when they read that line above. But now you know, and knowing is......

 

 

I'll be the 1st to admit my eyes opened wide when I read second print.