Biggest OA Prices

[Alias]

I agree the upcoming generation doesn't care. You are better off purchasing what you like and not concerning yourself with whether it will go up in value because it may not.

 

 

 

I think what many of us might "like" was featured on the first page... . However, if paying 60k for something now may risk potentially receiving much less for it later, that may present a legitimate cause for concern for some. Regardless of the medium, artwork changes hands all the time. I was simply asking what people thought about the industry's future. Simply saying "if you don't like it, don't buy it" doesn't really offer much to the discussion. My thought is that this is a plausible concern for collectors. Personally, I hope the tide doesn't turn. However, I can't help but wonder about the generations which follow our own. There are collectors out there, including myself, who have spent quite a bit over the over this shared love of ours. It would be a shame to see values decrease substantially. Of course, this is not to say the artwork would ultimately be any less beautiful.

[ashrael]

Added Ha.com May 10-11, 2012 results and Carl Barks paintings.

 

 

Comic Line Art Covers ($100K+):

 

$380,000 (2010): Weird Science-Fantasy #29 (Frank Frazetta)

$239,000 (2011): Detective Comics #67 (Jerry Robinson)

$200,000 (2008): Weird Fantasy #16 (Wally Wood)

$195,500 (2005): Batman #11 (Fred Ray, Jerry Robinson)

$167,300 (2011): Amazing Spider-Man #49 (John Romita Sr)

$119,500 (2011): Adventure Comics #73 (Jack Kirby/Joe Simon)

$101,700 (2006): Amazing Spider-Man #43 (John Romita Sr)

$101,575 (2010): Daredevil #188 (Frank Miller)

$101,575 (2007): Mr. Natural #1 (Robert Crumb)

$101,575 (2011): Action Comics #46 (Fred Ray)

$100,625 (2002): Famous Funnies #213 (Frank Frazetta)

 

Big Sales that are up there: Giant Size X-Men #1; Famous Funnies #215; Avengers #93; Amazing Spider-Man #300 (2011).

 

Did Not Meet Reserve: Superman #14 cover at $402,000 (2010) and Detective Comics #69 cover at $213,000 (2010).

 

Comic Line Art Interiors ($50K+):

 

$448,125 (2011): Batman: The Dark Knight #3 [page 10] (Frank Miller)

$214,819 (2010): Tintin 1939/06/22 [2 pages] (307,785€ for pair ~ $429,637 for pair)

$155,350 (2012) Fantastic Four 55 [page 3] (Jack Kirby/Joe Sinnott)

$88,500 (2011) Amazing Spider-Man 50 [page 8] (John Romita)

$86,250 (2005) Marvel Comics #1 [page 12] (Bill Everett)

$77,675 (2008) Big Comics #1 [page 1] (Robert Crumb)

$65,725 (2010) Journey Into Mystery #83 [page 8] (Jack Kirby, Joe Sinnott)

$65,725 (2011): X-Men #137 [page 44] (John Bryne/Terry Austin)

$53,775 (2008) X-Men #1 [page 11] (Jack Kirby, Paul Reinman)

 

Other Comic Line Art ($50K+):

 

$77,675 (2011): Amazing Spider-Man #100 cover recreation (John Romita Sr)

$71,700 (2012): Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1st drawing)

 

Painted Comic Covers ($100K+):

 

$1,067,052 (2008): Tintin in America (764,200€)

$203,150 (2008): Mad #30 [front & back covers] (Norman Mingo)

$110,500 (2006): Creepy #10 [cover - "Beyond the Grave"] (Frank Frazetta)

 

Non-Comic Frazetta Paintings ($100K+):

 

$1,500,000 (2010): "Conan The Destroyer"

$1,000,000 (2009): "Conan the Conqueror"

$251,000 (2008): "Escape on Venus"

$150,000 (2010): "Warrior with Ball and Chain"

$120,750 (2003): "Savage World"

 

Did Not Meet Reserve: "Land of Terror" at $172,500 (2011).

 

Carl Barks Paintings ($100K+):

 

$262,900 (2011): The Sport of Tycoons (1974)

$179,250 (2011): Vacation Panel (1972)

$179,250 (2011): Business as Usual (1976)

$161,325 (2010): An Embarrassment of Riches (1983)

$155,350 (2007): Spoiling the Concert (1973)

$150,570 (2007): Dubious Doings at Dismal Downs (1986)

$143,400 (2010): A Binful of Fun (1974)

$131,450 (2011): Spoiling the Concert (1973)

$131,450 (2010): Trespassers Will Be Ventilated (1988)

$119,500 (2008): The Goose Egg Nugget (circa 1973)

$119,500 (2011): Scrooge's Old Castle Painting #21 (1972)

$119,500 (2008): Wanderers of Wonderlands (1981)

$119,500 (2007): Return To Plain Awful (1989)

$119,500 (2010): Christmas Composition (1972)

$119,500 (2010): This Dollar Saved My Life At Whitehorse (1973)

$113,525 (2011): Red Sails in the Sunset Donald Duck (1974)

$107,550 (2011): Dam Disaster at Money Lake (1986)

$107,550 (2011): Donald Duck Sheriff of Bullet Valley (1973)

$107,550 (2011): Only a Poor Old Duck (1974)

$101,575 (2011): McDuck of Duckburg (1974)

$101,575 (2011): Nobody's Spending Fool (1974)

$101,575 (2011): Golden Cities of Cibola (1975)

$101,575 (2011): Voodoo Hoodooed (1974)

 

 

 

 

Do you know of any others? Year, issue, page (if not cover), and total price would be appreciated, along with links to info on the web if available. Thanks!

[ashrael]

Added record-breaking Tintin cover, ASM 6 page 12, Smurfs!

 

 

Comic Line Art Covers ($100K+):

 

$380,000 (2010): Weird Science-Fantasy #29 (Frank Frazetta)

$239,000 (2011): Detective Comics #67 (Jerry Robinson)

$200,000 (2008): Weird Fantasy #16 (Wally Wood)

$195,500 (2005): Batman #11 (Fred Ray, Jerry Robinson)

$167,300 (2011): Amazing Spider-Man #49 (John Romita Sr)

$154,255 (?): The Smurfs and the Magic Flute (1960 - 124,099€)

$119,500 (2011): Adventure Comics #73 (Jack Kirby/Joe Simon)

$101,700 (2006): Amazing Spider-Man #43 (John Romita Sr)

$101,575 (2010): Daredevil #188 (Frank Miller)

$101,575 (2007): Mr. Natural #1 (Robert Crumb)

$101,575 (2011): Action Comics #46 (Fred Ray)

$100,625 (2002): Famous Funnies #213 (Frank Frazetta)

 

Big Sales that are up there: Giant Size X-Men #1; Famous Funnies #215; Avengers #93; Amazing Spider-Man #300 (2011).

 

Did Not Meet Reserve: Superman #14 cover at $402,000 (2010) and Detective Comics #69 cover at $213,000 (2010).

 

Comic Line Art Interiors ($50K+):

 

$448,125 (2011): Batman: The Dark Knight #3 [page 10] (Frank Miller)

$214,819 (2010): Tintin 1939/06/22 [2 pages] (307,785€ for pair ~ $429,637 for pair)

$155,350 (2012) Fantastic Four 55 [page 3] (Jack Kirby/Joe Sinnott)

$88,500 (2011) Amazing Spider-Man 50 [page 8] (John Romita)

$86,250 (2005) Marvel Comics #1 [page 12] (Bill Everett)

$77,675 (2008) Big Comics #1 [page 1] (Robert Crumb)

$65,725 (2010) Journey Into Mystery #83 [page 8] (Jack Kirby, Joe Sinnott)

$65,725 (2011): X-Men #137 [page 44] (John Bryne/Terry Austin)

$64,000 (2012): Amazing Spider-Man #6 [page 12] (Steve Ditko)

$53,775 (2008) X-Men #1 [page 11] (Jack Kirby, Paul Reinman)

 

Other Comic Line Art ($50K+):

 

$77,675 (2011): Amazing Spider-Man #100 cover recreation (John Romita Sr)

$71,700 (2012): Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1st drawing)

 

Painted Comic Covers ($100K+):

 

$1,664,034 (2012): Tintin in America (Herge, 1932 - 1,338,509.20€)

$1,067,052 (2008): Tintin in America (Herge, 1932 - 764,200€)

$203,150 (2008): Mad #30 [front & back covers] (Norman Mingo)

$110,500 (2006): Creepy #10 [cover - "Beyond the Grave"] (Frank Frazetta)

 

Non-Comic Frazetta Paintings ($100K+):

 

$1,500,000 (2010): "Conan The Destroyer"

$1,000,000 (2009): "Conan the Conqueror"

$251,000 (2008): "Escape on Venus"

$150,000 (2010): "Warrior with Ball and Chain"

$120,750 (2003): "Savage World"

 

Did Not Meet Reserve: "Land of Terror" at $172,500 (2011).

 

Carl Barks Paintings ($100K+):

 

$262,900 (2011): The Sport of Tycoons (1974)

$179,250 (2011): Vacation Panel (1972)

$179,250 (2011): Business as Usual (1976)

$161,325 (2010): An Embarrassment of Riches (1983)

$155,350 (2007): Spoiling the Concert (1973)

$150,570 (2007): Dubious Doings at Dismal Downs (1986)

$143,400 (2010): A Binful of Fun (1974)

$131,450 (2011): Spoiling the Concert (1973)

$131,450 (2010): Trespassers Will Be Ventilated (1988)

$119,500 (2008): The Goose Egg Nugget (circa 1973)

$119,500 (2011): Scrooge's Old Castle Painting #21 (1972)

$119,500 (2008): Wanderers of Wonderlands (1981)

$119,500 (2007): Return To Plain Awful (1989)

$119,500 (2010): Christmas Composition (1972)

$119,500 (2010): This Dollar Saved My Life At Whitehorse (1973)

$113,525 (2011): Red Sails in the Sunset Donald Duck (1974)

$107,550 (2011): Dam Disaster at Money Lake (1986)

$107,550 (2011): Donald Duck Sheriff of Bullet Valley (1973)

$107,550 (2011): Only a Poor Old Duck (1974)

$101,575 (2011): McDuck of Duckburg (1974)

$101,575 (2011): Nobody's Spending Fool (1974)

$101,575 (2011): Golden Cities of Cibola (1975)

$101,575 (2011): Voodoo Hoodooed (1974)

 

 

 

 

Do you know of any others? Year, issue, page (if not cover), and total price would be appreciated, along with links to info on the web if available. Thanks!

[AKA Rick]

I think no matter what, there's always going to be new fans of old materials.

 

There's lots of collectors who dig back deep into history, it's somewhat proven in varied pop culture categories.

 

Look at sports cards. Young collectors still revere Babe Ruth, Mickey Mantle, and even more recent starts like Cal Ripken or Nolan Ryan.

 

In music, there's young fans who still listen to The Beatles, AC/DC, Earth Wind & Fire.

 

So, I think even today, there's art collectors looking for simply good art of yesteryear.

 

With that, I think prices of what's seen as classic titles or highly collected artists should at minimum retain or stabalize in value, if not increase in some cases.

[Trev]

Do you think there are any sales higher than these that were not public?

[Nexus]

Added record-breaking Tintin cover

 

Painted Comic Covers ($100K+):

 

$1,664,034 (2012): Tintin in America (Herge, 1932 - 1,338,509.20€)

$1,067,052 (2008): Tintin in America (Herge, 1932 - 764,200€)

 

Interesting that this piece wasn't affected by the "fresh-to-market" mentality. A rare piece is a rare piece. I guess the French really are smarter than us.

[Nexus]

Do you think there are any sales higher than these that were not public?

 

I don't know any that would place at the top, but there are many that would make the covers and interiors lists. Those lists would look very different, after #1, if private sales were included.

[blowout]

Added record-breaking Tintin cover

 

Do you know of any others? Year, issue, page (if not cover), and total price would be appreciated, along with links to info on the web if available. Thanks!

 

I don't see the Ditko ASM #6 page that just sold for $64K at the most recent comiclink auction?

[NelsonAI]

Added record-breaking Tintin cover

 

Painted Comic Covers ($100K+):

 

$1,664,034 (2012): Tintin in America (Herge, 1932 - 1,338,509.20€)

$1,067,052 (2008): Tintin in America (Herge, 1932 - 764,200€)

 

Interesting that this piece wasn't affected by the "fresh-to-market" mentality. A rare piece is a rare piece. I guess the French really are smarter than us.

 

Very true.

Top tier pieces that have been on public display, (i.e. on CAF), will still command top dollar from those that recognize the quality. Conversely, a crappy piece of art that is "fresh to market" is still .

 

Cheers!

N.

 

[spider9698]

Do you think there are any sales higher than these that were not public?

 

The answer is yes to many of the categories on the list.

[buyatari]

Sold for 124,099 €

 

http://www.artcurial.com/en/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=2036+++++202+&refno=10343142

[stinkininkin]

Do you think there are any sales higher than these that were not public?

 

The answer is yes to many of the categories on the list.

 

Most definitely.

 

Scott

[artdealer]

I know I've sold several originals for record prices.

MI

[ashrael]

Added record-breaking Tintin cover

 

Do you know of any others? Year, issue, page (if not cover), and total price would be appreciated, along with links to info on the web if available. Thanks!

 

I don't see the Ditko ASM #6 page that just sold for $64K at the most recent comiclink auction?

 

Thanks, added above

[VintageComics]

In music, there's young fans who still listen to The Beatles, AC/DC, Earth Wind & Fire.

 

Interesting you say that: I know several kids, all aged 20 or younger (so born in either the 1990's or the 2000's) who are infatuated with older bands.

 

There are a couple of brothers who are no older than 10 or 12 years old who are learning nothing but classic rock from a guitar teacher that used to teach my daughter. It was a real eye opener.

 

For whatever reason, reaching back into the past is a real thing and happening across all forms of art...always did.

 

Although demand might diminish over time as cultural relevance fades, there will always be some interest in older things.

 

Walking Dead, record breaking movies and plenty of stories are being burned into people's awareness. It's going to be interesting to see how the latest comic craze translates into nostalgia 15-20 years from now.

[westform]

 

I wonder how many kids of collectors are given the opportunity to grow up exposed to the art of Kirby, Romita, Adams,... for that matter Wiseman, Stanley, and Bolling. I know my kids cut their teeth on vintage material and most probably will look back on it in their middle age with fond memories. I also know that many of their friends appreciate the older stuff because I have stocked the local elementary school library with scores of it... and I get feedback from their friends all the time. It doesn't take hordes to make up a collecting market, just a dedicated few. We'll see.

 

 

I wonder how these prices would compare to those in 25 years time. Will these present values be as well received by the next generation of collectors? How many people under 20 even know (or even care) who Neal Adams, John Romita, and Jack Kirby even are? I worked for a schoolboard in Canada and often asked kids between the ages of 11 and 16 if they read comics and often got completely blank faces. Asking if they even recognized the names of the plethora of artists many of us grew up loving was a major stretch. ...As a kid, I eagerly awaited the next issue of Spiderman. I'd race to the newstand (yes, newstand) as I couldn't wait to get my hands on the latest issue. I just don't see that same enthusiasm shared with today's youth.

 

Thoughts?

[ashrael]

Sold for 124,099 €

 

http://www.artcurial.com/en/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=2036+++++202+&refno=10343142

 

Added. When was this auction? I didn't see an actual date.

[Terry Doyle]

In music, there's young fans who still listen to The Beatles, AC/DC, Earth Wind & Fire.

 

Earth, Wind & Fire.

[bluechip]

I wonder how many kids of collectors are given the opportunity to grow up exposed to the art of Kirby, Romita, Adams,... for that matter Wiseman, Stanley, and Bolling. I know my kids cut their teeth on vintage material and most probably will look back on it in their middle age with fond memories. I also know that many of their friends appreciate the older stuff because I have stocked the local elementary school library with scores of it... and I get feedback from their friends all the time. It doesn't take hordes to make up a collecting market, just a dedicated few. We'll see.

 

 

I wonder how these prices would compare to those in 25 years time. Will these present values be as well received by the next generation of collectors? How many people under 20 even know (or even care) who Neal Adams, John Romita, and Jack Kirby even are? I worked for a schoolboard in Canada and often asked kids between the ages of 11 and 16 if they read comics and often got completely blank faces. Asking if they even recognized the names of the plethora of artists many of us grew up loving was a major stretch. ...As a kid, I eagerly awaited the next issue of Spiderman. I'd race to the newstand (yes, newstand) as I couldn't wait to get my hands on the latest issue. I just don't see that same enthusiasm shared with today's youth.

 

Thoughts?

 

Seems like most of the kids at my kids' schools are very much into Batman and anything that has the word Marvel in it, and they've seen many of the same classic images by the same classic artists. They all know Stan Lee and when I saw the Avengers with them the entire audience full of kids cheered at his cameo. Picking up my daughter from school I've seen kids sporting images drawn by Kirby and Romita. And I know many of them have never read an actual comic

 

[buyatari]

Many young kids who were turned on to older music did so because dad listens to the same music or they took guitar lessons and had to learn a particular song or when they played a Rock Band game.

 

Few just venture out into the unknown to try this older music without being prompted in these ways. At least from what I have seen in my experience as a used videogame/movie/cd store owner.

 

Not to say it doesn't happen but it is rare. Most young kids listen to the music that the young kids listen to.

 

Different with comics. Even without direct exposure to Kirby a new comic collector would discover him on his own by just tracing back past issues of a popular Marvel superhero and reading old trades to get the whole story. The cover images of key 1960's issues are seen everywhere even today. As long as the characters they drew then are alive in the future these artists will be hard to forget.