Jeffro. Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 The same cannot be said for Valkyrie which was actually a first appearance of the character, irrespective of the subsequent ret-con. But Jay, this is not a "ret-con". The stories weren’t altered, they just progressed one after the other, as they liked the idea and then properly introduced the character. This obsession with "first apperances" just clouds the fact that the creative process of writing happens in stages. They’re all important. (thumbs u What's important from a story perspective can often be different from which particular issue collectors latch on to as the first app. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Less Blob Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 http://www.ebay.com/itm/All-Star-Western-10-FN-6-0-DC-Bronze-Age-Western-Giant-1972-1st-Jonah-Hex-/121748561712?hash=item1c58c79f30:g:MtYAAOSw0JpV5nad ---------- has this been trending back up? i remember after the movie tanked prices on mid-grade copies tanked too. this feels like 2X what i paid for one in better shape from a boardie a couple of years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philreal Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 http://www.ebay.com/itm/All-Star-Western-10-FN-6-0-DC-Bronze-Age-Western-Giant-1972-1st-Jonah-Hex-/121748561712?hash=item1c58c79f30:g:MtYAAOSw0JpV5nad ---------- has this been trending back up? i remember after the movie tanked prices on mid-grade copies tanked too. this feels like 2X what i paid for one in better shape from a boardie a couple of years ago. Time to sell? I'll keep an eye on this one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/262108629797?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comic_memories Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 For the sake of Valkyrie the first appearance is clearly avengers 83. All the recons of characters and alias aren't first appearances. First appearance of the Alias maybe but not the character. Avengers 83 isn't the first appearance of a character, just the first published depiction of a character's likeness - as portrayed by an impostor. You might as well just go full Ween. Really now, you haven't even read the issues you're discussing, have you? In all 3 of the first appearances, the Enchantress is the one to give the Valkyrie's likeness/personality/powers to each character. In Avengers 83 she used the likeness on herself against the Avengers. In Hulk 142, she used the likeness on Samantha Pennington to attack the Hulk. In Defenders #4, she again used it on Barbara Norriss to help her with the Defenders. What in the world is the difference? Avengers 83: 1st time Valkyrie's name is used? Check. First Valkyrie's likeness? Check. Prominent cover appearance? Check. Valkyrie's looks exactly the same as in every appearance over the next 30-40 years? Check. Actually Joe Collector is right and here is why: Avengers 83 ( Enchantress in Valkyries form) Hulk 126 (1st Appearance of Barbara Norriss) Hulk 142 (Samantha Paddington in Valkyries form) Defenders 3 (2nd Appearance of Barbara Norriss) Defenders 4 (1st appearance of BRUNNHILDE/VALKYRIE in Barbara Norriss's body) Defenders 109 (BRUNNHILDE/VALKYRIE in her own body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooter99 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Did someone lose their ever-loving mind? Pending sale..... http://www.comiclink.com/itemdetail.asp?back=%2FNewItems.asp%3FType%3D0%26f1%3Di.LastUpdate%26ODire1%3DDESC%26pg%3D2&id=1090494 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidTheDavid Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Did someone lose their ever-loving mind? Pending sale..... http://www.comiclink.com/itemdetail.asp?back=%2FNewItems.asp%3FType%3D0%26f1%3Di.LastUpdate%26ODire1%3DDESC%26pg%3D2&id=1090494 Huh?! That can't be accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Town Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 A couple more big ComicLink sales from the current auction: X-Men #76 CGC 9.6 X-Men #79 CGC 9.6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 "Grade" is not an adjective. Mostly. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooter99 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 A couple more big ComicLink sales from the current auction: X-Men #76 CGC 9.6 X-Men #79 CGC 9.6 Someone is either hell bent putting together a run or not going to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmiesta Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Did someone lose their ever-loving mind? Pending sale..... http://www.comiclink.com/itemdetail.asp?back=%2FNewItems.asp%3FType%3D0%26f1%3Di.LastUpdate%26ODire1%3DDESC%26pg%3D2&id=1090494 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Case Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 A couple more big ComicLink sales from the current auction: X-Men #76 CGC 9.6 X-Men #79 CGC 9.6 Those are incredible prices. I might have to send in my Manitoba X-Men #79 copy after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaillant Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 The same cannot be said for Valkyrie which was actually a first appearance of the character, irrespective of the subsequent ret-con. But Jay, this is not a "ret-con". The stories weren’t altered, they just progressed one after the other, as they liked the idea and then properly introduced the character. This obsession with "first apperances" just clouds the fact that the creative process of writing happens in stages. They’re all important. What's important from a story perspective can often be different from which particular issue collectors latch on to as the first app. That goes for sure. That is why I was questioning Avengers #83: as much important as it is since it introduces the character (albeit in the Enchantress ploy/disguise) I would be the first to want Defenders #4. Or Hulk #126. Or both. Or each and every one! Yes! A great example of what you say is provided by Sub-Mariner #34-35: these issues are less relevant, story wise, than Doc #183, Hulk #126 and Sub-Mariner #22, but for decades they have been considered more important in Defenders history "in the making". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaillant Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Actually Joe Collector is right and here is why: Avengers 83 (Enchantress in Valkyries form) Hulk 126 (1st Appearance of Barbara Norriss) Hulk 142 (Samantha Paddington in Valkyries form) Defenders 3 (2nd Appearance of Barbara Norriss) Defenders 4 (1st appearance of BRUNNHILDE/VALKYRIE in Barbara Norriss's body) Defenders 109 (BRUNNHILDE/VALKYRIE in her own body OK, but strictly speaking (I’d have to re-read it) Hulk #142 is nonetheless Valkyrie in Samantha Parrington (not "Paddington" ) body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmiesta Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 A couple more big ComicLink sales from the current auction: X-Men #76 CGC 9.6 X-Men #79 CGC 9.6 Those are incredible prices. I might have to send in my Manitoba X-Men #79 copy after all. What grade would you expect back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spreads Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 A couple more big ComicLink sales from the current auction: X-Men #76 CGC 9.6 X-Men #79 CGC 9.6 Someone is either hell bent putting together a run or not going to pay. I don't follow this site at all, does this happen often? I mean what's to stop a guy with a 9.4 on ebay for a fraction of this price to run up the 9.6 to create false activity, then not pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Town Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 A couple more big ComicLink sales from the current auction: X-Men #76 CGC 9.6 X-Men #79 CGC 9.6 Someone is either hell bent putting together a run or not going to pay. I don't follow this site at all, does this happen often? I mean what's to stop a guy with a 9.4 on ebay for a fraction of this price to run up the 9.6 to create false activity, then not pay? These same books sold for pretty serious prices back in 2011.The #76 for $1588 and the #79 for $3433. So I don't think there's anything shady going on here. They're just really tough books in 9.6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 A couple more big ComicLink sales from the current auction: X-Men #76 CGC 9.6 X-Men #79 CGC 9.6 Someone is either hell bent putting together a run or not going to pay. I don't follow this site at all, does this happen often? I mean what's to stop a guy with a 9.4 on ebay for a fraction of this price to run up the 9.6 to create false activity, then not pay? These same books sold for pretty serious prices back in 2011.The #76 for $1588 and the #79 for $3433. So I don't think there's anything shady going on here. They're just really tough books in 9.6 Yep the post 66 X-men reprints have always been difficult to find in HG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle R. Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 (edited) Pom Klementieff is MANTIS in GOTG2. http://deadline.com/2015/10/sand-castle-adds-comptons-neil-brown-jr-guardians-2-casts-pom-klementieff-in-mystery-role-mantis-1201597456/ Time to scour the net for Avengers 112. Edited October 29, 2015 by Candletric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drotto Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 and we get this brand new eBay listing!!!!! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Avengers-1963-1st-Series-112-VF-NM-9-0-/361418647380?hash=item54263ae754:g:tJAAAOSwAYtWMaBi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sd2416 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Pom Klementieff is MANTIS in GOTG2. http://deadline.com/2015/10/sand-castle-adds-comptons-neil-brown-jr-guardians-2-casts-pom-klementieff-in-mystery-role-mantis-1201597456/ Time to scour the net for Avengers 112. Klementieff’s role is being kept under wraps for now, but we’re told she’ll be playing the superhero Mantis Nothing official yet. Just more guesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...