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[MAR1979]

On 4/11/2024 at 1:51 PM, kimik said:

I wonder if the crypto bros that were buying ASM 300 CGC 9.8s from a LCS owner friend for $10K at the peak are still holding them?

That would be very, very sweet!

[fastballspecial]

On 4/11/2024 at 12:42 PM, MAR1979 said:

and demand is sinking.  ASM Direct Sales 300 in 9.8 will negatively breach 2k before end of year 2024.   2 years ago 9.6 were commanding near 2k.

Spawn 1 what a total frickin' joke. Highest 9.8 and above population ALL-TIME. The 9.8 and 9.9 numbers are staggeringly huge and still growing!!!  There are less grains sand on a beach than copies of Spawn 1 in 9.8+

Books	CGC Label	CGC Total	Avg. Grade	10	9.9	9.8	9.6	9.4	9.2	9.0	8.5	8.0	7.5	7.0	6.5	6.0	5.5	5.0	4.5	4.0	3.5	3.0	2.5	2.0	1.8	1.5	1.0	0.5
1. Spawn 1 (5/92, Image Comics)             1st appearance of Spawn (Al Simmons). 2nd Image "i" logo. Pull-out Spawn poster.	Universal	25,329	9.54	6	69	11,758	6,577	3,217	1,530	974	533	328	129	109	45	26	13	7	2	3					1			2

Wont matter book will still sell for $20 to $25 at shows. I just sold one for $25 last show I think. Now slab buyers can 
punish sellers more due to glut. 

[fastballspecial]

On 4/10/2024 at 3:49 PM, MAR1979 said:

 

Is $103 then an outlier or Downward Sublimation to its new normal FMV?

Its an auction. All that needs to be said.

Edited April 12 by fastballspecial

[the blob]

On 4/11/2024 at 1:42 PM, MAR1979 said:

and demand is sinking.  ASM Direct Sales 300 in 9.8 will negatively breach 2k before end of year 2024.   2 years ago 9.6 were commanding near 2k.

Spawn 1 what a total frickin' joke. Highest 9.8 and above population ALL-TIME. The 9.8 and 9.9 numbers are staggeringly huge and still growing!!!  There are less grains sand on a beach than copies of Spawn 1 in 9.8+

Books	CGC Label	CGC Total	Avg. Grade	10	9.9	9.8	9.6	9.4	9.2	9.0	8.5	8.0	7.5	7.0	6.5	6.0	5.5	5.0	4.5	4.0	3.5	3.0	2.5	2.0	1.8	1.5	1.0	0.5
1. Spawn 1 (5/92, Image Comics)             1st appearance of Spawn (Al Simmons). 2nd Image "i" logo. Pull-out Spawn poster.	Universal	25,329	9.54	6	69	11,758	6,577	3,217	1,530	974	533	328	129	109	45	26	13	7	2	3					1			2

What is the drop from 2019? You're only going to see negativity and sorrow if you look at everything from the perspective of the acid trip that was the the covid fueled comic buying binge. Historically speaking, things were pretty fantastic selling-wise in 2019 if I remember correctly. And why wouldn't Spawn 1 have insane slabbed numbers? It had a print run of well over 1 million, copies were immediately bagged and boarded and put into storage, etc. and it was a book worth slabbing (although I'd need to check that) very early in CGC times, unlike some of the other million+ copy books of the 90s. I say this as someone who bought his home in late 2006. When things tanked in 2008/9/10 everyone was screaming about the drop from the peak, etc., my dumb mother in law was asking whether I should just give the house back to the bank (she is an insufficiently_thoughtful_person, I actually put a pretty big down payment on it, so that was never happening), I tried to explain that the FMV was now what I had paid in 2006 so I didn't really care that much, indeed, I was happy to refinance down from a 6.5% mortgage to 4% and the city stopped raising my property taxes for a year.

Edited April 12 by the blob

[the blob]

On 4/11/2024 at 7:26 PM, fastballspecial said:

Wont matter book will still sell for $20 to $25 at shows. I just sold one for $25 last show I think. Now slab buyers can 
punish sellers more due to glut. 

It seems to sell for $130-165 in 9.8 and $75-80 in 9.6. I'm gonna be honest, that still feels like plenty for that book, I don't care what chuckleheads were paying 2 years ago, smoking crack/stimis makes people do silly things.

Edited April 12 by the blob

[Kevin76]

People are paying $600-$700 for "rare" newsstands  which is even more crazy  

[littledoom]

On 4/16/2024 at 12:58 PM, Kevin76 said:

People are paying $600-$700 for "rare" newsstands  which is even more crazy  

Of which comic?

[the blob]

On 4/16/2024 at 4:40 PM, littledoom said:

Of which comic?

Spawn 1. The newsstand version "only" had a print run of like 200K. With that said, maybe they're a challenge in 9.8? 

[kimik]

Fantastic. McFarlane is signing at the Calgary Expo next week. I have a couple of Spawn #1 newsstands that will be priced at market. Hopefully they sell.

[1Cool]

I sold a nice raw copy yesterday for $30 which had been sitting around for awhile.  Book just has too nice a cover to sit forever.

[pmpknface]

I hope Spawn is still selling.  I've got a run from 1-113 and other Spawn titles (Curse Of, Sam & Twitch, etc...) I'm looking to move!  

[kimik]

On 4/18/2024 at 7:11 AM, pmpknface said:

I hope Spawn is still selling.  I've got a run from 1-113 and other Spawn titles (Curse Of, Sam & Twitch, etc...) I'm looking to move!  

Greggy is always buying Spawn.

[Brock]

The Dave Stevens insanity continues... I just listed a book for triple the previous sale on eBay, and it sold within 24 hours at full asking price.

What are everyone's predictions on this? Is this likely to blow over, or is this just the first phase in a bigger run up?

[ADAMANTIUM]

On 4/19/2024 at 11:17 AM, Brock said:

The Dave Stevens insanity continues... I just listed a book for triple the previous sale on eBay, and it sold within 24 hours at full asking price.

What are everyone's predictions on this? Is this likely to blow over, or is this just the first phase in a bigger run up?

My "opinion" only? It depends on the "reasons" for the run up, if it were movie and or media related, I'd say it wouldn't last....

If it is an artist reaching cult status to viewers or new viewers maybe, I'd look at the reason why, but if it is more nostalgia base it could end eventually too. Not that Michael Turner is in the same ballpark, although similarly for a while back in 2016 it too had a run up of variants and the like (if I remember, I was too new!), and idk that it is still the case for him rather than maybe signature series or "certain" covers.

TBH I'm holding as I like the books, and Lord willing don't need to cash in, do I hope it stays this way? Maybe, as most of what I got I'm happy for, but was there more I'd have picked up? Definitely, but had the mindset to find them in the wild or otherwise cheaply to hold for a run up that would eventually come.

 I always figured the work stood for itself and might eventually stick with collectors, but as to this being that event?  your guess is as good as mine,  to get to my point  

Edited April 19 by ADAMANTIUM

[1Cool]

On 4/19/2024 at 12:17 PM, Brock said:

The Dave Stevens insanity continues... I just listed a book for triple the previous sale on eBay, and it sold within 24 hours at full asking price.

What are everyone's predictions on this? Is this likely to blow over, or is this just the first phase in a bigger run up?

Somebody will yell squirrel and the market will run after the next hot thing so my money this being a temp fad and people should be selling if they want top dollar.  His stuff isn't reigniting due to young people loving it and it's not like he is tapping into current politics or fashions so I don't think it has legs.  Great art is all over the place (ie Art Adams stuff is way better) but you don't see people paying 5x prices for his stuff all the sudden.   

[seanfingh]

On 4/19/2024 at 1:08 PM, 1Cool said:

Somebody will yell squirrel and the market will run after the next hot thing so my money this being a temp fad and people should be selling if they want top dollar.  His stuff isn't reigniting due to young people loving it and it's not like he is tapping into current politics or fashions so I don't think it has legs.  Great art is all over the place (ie Art Adams stuff is way better) but you don't see people paying 5x prices for his stuff all the sudden.   

Art Adams is "way better" than Dave Stevens?  Well, art is subjective, but objectively, you are wrong.

[littledoom]

On 4/19/2024 at 11:06 AM, seanfingh said:

Art Adams is "way better" than Dave Stevens?  Well, art is subjective, but objectively, you are wrong.

 

On 4/19/2024 at 10:08 AM, 1Cool said:

Somebody will yell squirrel and the market will run after the next hot thing so my money this being a temp fad and people should be selling if they want top dollar.  His stuff isn't reigniting due to young people loving it and it's not like he is tapping into current politics or fashions so I don't think it has legs.  Great art is all over the place (ie Art Adams stuff is way better) but you don't see people paying 5x prices for his stuff all the sudden.   

Adams stuff is abundant and very easy to come across in the wild across diff publishers and decades. DS is htf

[1Cool]

On 4/19/2024 at 2:06 PM, seanfingh said:

Art Adams is "way better" than Dave Stevens?  Well, art is subjective, but objectively, you are wrong.

Next you are going to tell me Stevens was better than Zeck.  Stevens was good but I'd rather collect Hughes or Campbell if I'm looking for girl art.  Regardless of your taste in artists there is no reason Stevens stuff became so hot after so many years.  They are not more hard to get then a few years ago.  Not better now than in 2021 but people are acting like they have never seen his stuff before.  The market is fickle so you have to embrace the shifts but I don't see why his stuff will remain as hot as they have been this year.

[1Cool]

On 4/19/2024 at 2:12 PM, littledoom said:

 

Adams stuff is abundant and very easy to come across in the wild across diff publishers and decades. DS is htf

I'd agree his stuff is harder to find then Adams but those Alien Worlds books were everywhere a few years ago in people's $5 boxes.  I can't tell you how many Jonny Quest 5 copies I've bought over the years and now they are going for $50.  It's a fad and I'm selling as fast as possible if I can find copies.

[littledoom]

On 4/19/2024 at 11:38 AM, 1Cool said:

I'd agree his stuff is harder to find then Adams but those Alien Worlds books were everywhere a few years ago in people's $5 boxes.  I can't tell you how many Jonny Quest 5 copies I've bought over the years and now they are going for $50.  It's a fad and I'm selling as fast as possible if I can find copies.

I’m not sure about everywhere. I don’t think any of Adams stuff can really be classified as htf unless it’s a rare variant. Lots of DS girl covers used to sell for $5-10. As for selling now I agree the time to sell is when everyone is buying but week after week and month after month the prices continue to sell for even higher. I don’t think there is really a rush to sell. He will forever be an all time classic adorned artist 

Edited April 19 by littledoom