Westy Steve Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Howdy. Just wanted to defend BA12 as the first appearance of Harley. If a comicbook comes out...let's say...Showcase #4, which introduces a character. Then some re-write occurs, like "New 52" and it relaunches the sequence of how things started in the DC universe, does the Showcase #4 lose value? Of course not. My point is that it really doesn't matter whether a first appearance is accepted in the "official" timeline of events. Collectors realize that a first appearance is a first appearance, no matter how they change the storyline. FWIW, there are a lot of "1st appearance in comics" in the Golden Age Disney Genre, where the character actually appeared in a cartoon first. While it is factored into the demand for that book, it isn't like a black mark against it that dogs the value of the book. As long as collectors are informed that it is the first appearance in comics, that is all that matters. Whether DC disavows it in their timeline or not. I think the book has a lot of potential because the character is a favorite among cosplayers. I think that will be a factor in popularity as the popularity in cosplay continues to grow. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CODLIVE Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 So I was reading Batman Adventures #23 then I noticed Harley Quinn. Is that even considered an appearance? 3rd panel Well gotta star hoarding #23 I guess, Completest will want it and I'm sure that it has flown under the radar, Comic Vine doesn't have it listed and I have seen some of the most miniscule background appearances be listed on there so I will be picking them up for $1 when I see them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillerCrocPot Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I bought this book for $4 on ebay back in 2009. I was confused at the time because I always knew Harley was a popular character. I was collecting 1st appearances and saw all these cheap books for $4 and it kinda confused me. The book was close to 17 years old and never gained value. I bought one and got another 9.6 for about 125 back in 2012. Then the take off.... I got the $4 copy in to get graded at a 9.4. This book is the Hulk 181 of modern. It will potentially top off soon enough, however, it will continue to grow. Next Batman book to do this will be Azrael, Carnage, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillerCrocPot Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 p.s. all those $679 Buy it Nows prevent it from increasing in value. I might have to put a stop to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggernaut Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 So I was reading Batman Adventures #23 then I noticed Harley Quinn. Is that even considered an appearance? 3rd panel Well gotta star hoarding #23 I guess, Completest will want it and I'm sure that it has flown under the radar, Comic Vine doesn't have it listed and I have seen some of the most miniscule background appearances be listed on there so I will be picking them up for $1 when I see them. I read BA #23 years ago and I never noticed it until now. If you look closely the picture is signed "Harley". Might have to go back and update the list I made earlier in this thread and include all obscure background appearances. I thought no one cared so I didn't add it to the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Saw this in my record search the other day (from 2/6/2010) . . . Description Unit price Qty Amount BATMAN ADVENTURES #12 CGC NM 9.4 W 1st App Harley Quinn Item# 200431301718 $32.00 USD 1 $32.00 USD Subtotal $32.00 USD Shipping and handling $8.00 USD Total $40.00 USD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanfingh Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Saw this in my record search the other day (from 2/6/2010) . . . Description Unit price Qty Amount BATMAN ADVENTURES #12 CGC NM 9.4 W 1st App Harley Quinn Item# 200431301718 $32.00 USD 1 $32.00 USD Subtotal $32.00 USD Shipping and handling $8.00 USD Total $40.00 USD One should never have recriminations about profit made in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
october Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Saw this in my record search the other day (from 2/6/2010) . . . Description Unit price Qty Amount BATMAN ADVENTURES #12 CGC NM 9.4 W 1st App Harley Quinn Item# 200431301718 $32.00 USD 1 $32.00 USD Subtotal $32.00 USD Shipping and handling $8.00 USD Total $40.00 USD One should never have recriminations about profit made in the past. I have more than enough comic-related stuff to beat myself up over without having to also regret past sales that were too cheap only in hindsight. Nobody has a crystal ball. If you made a good sale at the time, it was a good sale period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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seanfingh Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 That's it exactly. I sold a couple copies of the Avengers book that has the 1st Scott Lang a couple of weeks before they popped. I consoled myself upon receiving the modest 6-7x profit as opposed to the 20-30x by remembering the 300x return on a FOOM 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I bought this book for $4 on ebay back in 2009. I was confused at the time because I always knew Harley was a popular character. I was collecting 1st appearances and saw all these cheap books for $4 and it kinda confused me. The book was close to 17 years old and never gained value. I bought one and got another 9.6 for about 125 back in 2012. Then the take off.... I got the $4 copy in to get graded at a 9.4. This book is the Hulk 181 of modern. It will potentially top off soon enough, however, it will continue to grow. Next Batman book to do this will be Azrael, Carnage, etc... Please, feel free to hit all the BINs on Sword of Azrael #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanfingh Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=6391128#Post6391128 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillerCrocPot Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I bought this book for $4 on ebay back in 2009. I was confused at the time because I always knew Harley was a popular character. I was collecting 1st appearances and saw all these cheap books for $4 and it kinda confused me. The book was close to 17 years old and never gained value. I bought one and got another 9.6 for about 125 back in 2012. Then the take off.... I got the $4 copy in to get graded at a 9.4. This book is the Hulk 181 of modern. It will potentially top off soon enough, however, it will continue to grow. Next Batman book to do this will be Azrael, Carnage, etc... Please, feel free to hit all the BINs on Sword of Azrael #1. maybe it's an inside joke that i'm not getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sd2416 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I bought this book for $4 on ebay back in 2009. I was confused at the time because I always knew Harley was a popular character. I was collecting 1st appearances and saw all these cheap books for $4 and it kinda confused me. The book was close to 17 years old and never gained value. I bought one and got another 9.6 for about 125 back in 2012. Then the take off.... I got the $4 copy in to get graded at a 9.4. This book is the Hulk 181 of modern. It will potentially top off soon enough, however, it will continue to grow. Next Batman book to do this will be Azrael, Carnage, etc... Please, feel free to hit all the BINs on Sword of Azrael #1. maybe it's an inside joke that i'm not getting. He prob has some for sale and if you hit the bin on Azrael 1's, youll buy his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy Steve Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I got my first BA12 in the mail the other day. A lower grade copy at a good price. So what did I do? I read it! And you know what? It was pretty good! Is the rest of the series as good as that? I might have to read them. Nothing complicated about them. Nobody died, or broke their back, or is being replaced by a clone of their sidekick. Just good old fashioned story telling. Good stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F For Fake Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I got my first BA12 in the mail the other day. A lower grade copy at a good price. So what did I do? I read it! And you know what? It was pretty good! Is the rest of the series as good as that? I might have to read them. Nothing complicated about them. Nobody died, or broke their back, or is being replaced by a clone of their sidekick. Just good old fashioned story telling. Good stuff! The entire Batman animated run (From "Batman Adventures" to "Batman and Robin Adventures", "Lost Years", "Gotham Adventures" and finally "Batman Adventures"...again) is terrific, and far and away one of my favorite runs of any superhero title, ever. Even as an adult, I thought it was the perfect superhero series, in that each issue was a standalone story (for the most part), the art was always lovely, and the stories were always fun. You could pick up any issue at any point in the run and know exactly who is who and what was going on, and not have to understand decades worth of continuity to enjoy the stories. They were really great books and I wish DC would finally collect them in a nice archival format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Point Five Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 (thumbs u Some four years ago I picked up the first 12 (yay!) BA issues because the price was right, and same here, I really enjoyed them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrin_Radd Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Saw this in my record search the other day (from 2/6/2010) . . . Description Unit price Qty Amount BATMAN ADVENTURES #12 CGC NM 9.4 W 1st App Harley Quinn Item# 200431301718 $32.00 USD 1 $32.00 USD Subtotal $32.00 USD Shipping and handling $8.00 USD Total $40.00 USD An old purchase... eBay item #729130364 Oct-27-02 Nov-03-02 18:23:06 $9.99 (4) Batman Adventures #12 1st Harley Quinn NM Seller: pcy Sadly, I sold two of them for $10 each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGGIEZ Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 So I was reading Batman Adventures #23 then I noticed Harley Quinn. Is that even considered an appearance? 3rd panel Yes…if people consider Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen #134 the 1st appearance of Darkseid, then this is certainly a very notable and robust appearance of Harley! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azcards4ever Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 That would be the 4th appearance if I dated the comic right. Good eye!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
