thecopperagekids Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Last sale was $1,400.00. 90 Day is $1,221. 12 month average is $775.00. The 2013 average was $509.00. Yeah. Wow. GPA can be slow on the uptake as it has solf for more than $1400. Actually, I got different results on my cell than on my laptop. *Three* 9.8 copies have sold in the $1600 range, per ebay completed/sold auction search. A 9.8 BA 12 paired with a 9.4 Harley Quinn 1994 1 shot (black Alex Ross cover, 1st print) sold for $2,0,50 The 1994 1-shot , slabbed in 9.4 trades for around $150-200. So, that sale can be viewed as $1850 to $1900 for a BA 12 in 9.8. Bat Adv 12 CGC 9.8 white pages http://www.ebay.com/itm/Batman-Adventures-12-CGC-9-8-1st-Harley-Quinn-Suicide-Squad-Movie-/141546795507?pt=US_Comic_Books&hash=item20f4d8b1f3 This auction should be a pretty decent indication of the current value of this book.I know that there was a CGC 9.8 /white pages which sold for $2,050 and the other more recent sales are around $1,700. I just placed a bid of $1,300 and was outbid, with 5 days to go.That's as much as I can realistically figure on putting out on a 9.8 slab as I know I can always blow it out for $1600 quickly and recoup my costs, if need be......but I have to wonder what the closing bid will be. Keep in mind that alot of these auctions on ebay sometimes will have people whom are friends with the seller or the seller has more then one name to try and jack the price up on this or any item, just so they can make more money on the item.... its sad but it's the truth. so the real value is kind of hard to get. Yes, I am aware of sketchy eBay users and I agree they do jack prices up via manipulating perceived demand with shilling and so on. But the fact remains that the highest bidders re paying the prices so they must believe a book is worth their high bid and that in turn, sets the going market price as realized sale prices are just that. If I had a copy of this book in my possesion, I would not put it up for less than $2000.If I were to put it out on my wall at a convention or over the board, I would not accept less than $1800.(figuring eBay would hit me up for about a 10% vig on a sale of $2000, leaving me with $1800). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikingreed Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 "GPA can be slow on the uptake as it has solf for more than $1400. Actually, I got different results on my cell than on my laptop. *Three* 9.8 copies have sold in the $1600 range, per ebay completed/sold auction search. A 9.8 BA 12 paired with a 9.4 Harley Quinn 1994 1 shot (black Alex Ross cover, 1st print) sold for $2,0,50 The 1994 1-shot , slabbed in 9.4 trades for around $150-200. So, that sale can be viewed as $1850 to $1900 for a BA 12 in 9.8." Fair enough. If I were in your shoes, I would go for as much as I could get as well. I still want one, so I hope it crashes, haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpanalysis Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 GPA can be slow on the uptake as it has solf for more than $1400. Actually, I got different results on my cell than on my laptop. *Three* 9.8 copies have sold in the $1600 range, per ebay completed/sold auction search. A 9.8 BA 12 paired with a 9.4 Harley Quinn 1994 1 shot (black Alex Ross cover, 1st print) sold for $2,0,50 The 1994 1-shot , slabbed in 9.4 trades for around $150-200. So, that sale can be viewed as $1850 to $1900 for a BA 12 in 9.8. Just be mindful, two of the sales you think went in the '$1600 range' did not. This one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/151546971810 Which shows as ending at $1600 was actually sold at a best offer of $1400 And this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/141466670430 Which shows as ending at $1650 was actually sold at a best offer of $1300 The only sale to reach over $1600 was in October: http://www.ebay.com/itm/311150248804 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikingreed Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 GPA can be slow on the uptake as it has solf for more than $1400. Actually, I got different results on my cell than on my laptop. *Three* 9.8 copies have sold in the $1600 range, per ebay completed/sold auction search. A 9.8 BA 12 paired with a 9.4 Harley Quinn 1994 1 shot (black Alex Ross cover, 1st print) sold for $2,0,50 The 1994 1-shot , slabbed in 9.4 trades for around $150-200. So, that sale can be viewed as $1850 to $1900 for a BA 12 in 9.8. Just be mindful, two of the sales you think went in the '$1600 range' did not. This one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/151546971810 Which shows as ending at $1600 was actually sold at a best offer of $1400 And this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/141466670430 Which shows as ending at $1650 was actually sold at a best offer of $1300 The only sale to reach over $1600 was in October: http://www.ebay.com/itm/311150248804 Thank you, sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecopperagekids Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 GPA can be slow on the uptake as it has solf for more than $1400. Actually, I got different results on my cell than on my laptop. *Three* 9.8 copies have sold in the $1600 range, per ebay completed/sold auction search. A 9.8 BA 12 paired with a 9.4 Harley Quinn 1994 1 shot (black Alex Ross cover, 1st print) sold for $2,0,50 The 1994 1-shot , slabbed in 9.4 trades for around $150-200. So, that sale can be viewed as $1850 to $1900 for a BA 12 in 9.8. Just be mindful, two of the sales you think went in the '$1600 range' did not. This one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/151546971810 Which shows as ending at $1600 was actually sold at a best offer of $1400 And this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/141466670430 Which shows as ending at $1650 was actually sold at a best offer of $1300 The only sale to reach over $1600 was in October: http://www.ebay.com/itm/311150248804 Thanks, that's what I get for using a "smart" phone to double check my numbers... That still leave us with an outlier sale of $1690 for a 9.8, back in October, which is before (I believe) the news on her officially being casted in the Suicide Squad movie was released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 GPA can be slow on the uptake as it has solf for more than $1400. Actually, I got different results on my cell than on my laptop. *Three* 9.8 copies have sold in the $1600 range, per ebay completed/sold auction search. A 9.8 BA 12 paired with a 9.4 Harley Quinn 1994 1 shot (black Alex Ross cover, 1st print) sold for $2,0,50 The 1994 1-shot , slabbed in 9.4 trades for around $150-200. So, that sale can be viewed as $1850 to $1900 for a BA 12 in 9.8. Just be mindful, two of the sales you think went in the '$1600 range' did not. This one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/151546971810 Which shows as ending at $1600 was actually sold at a best offer of $1400 And this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/141466670430 Which shows as ending at $1650 was actually sold at a best offer of $1300 The only sale to reach over $1600 was in October: http://www.ebay.com/itm/311150248804 Thanks, that's what I get for using a "smart" phone to double check my numbers... That still leave us with an outlier sale of $1690 for a 9.8, back in October, which is before (I believe) the news on her officially being casted in the Suicide Squad movie was released. That was a mycomicshop "sale" and they are notorious for listing books on ebay as being "sold" (usually Copper Age books or thereabouts) at a full price that is very often significantly higher than multiple other listings on ebay. GPA still picks it up and records the sale but it almost always stands out as an outlier sale. There are recent sales of ASM 300 and 361, as well as NM 87 where they have done the same thing. -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkdrawer Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 GPA can be slow on the uptake as it has solf for more than $1400. Actually, I got different results on my cell than on my laptop. *Three* 9.8 copies have sold in the $1600 range, per ebay completed/sold auction search. A 9.8 BA 12 paired with a 9.4 Harley Quinn 1994 1 shot (black Alex Ross cover, 1st print) sold for $2,0,50 The 1994 1-shot , slabbed in 9.4 trades for around $150-200. So, that sale can be viewed as $1850 to $1900 for a BA 12 in 9.8. Just be mindful, two of the sales you think went in the '$1600 range' did not. This one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/151546971810 Which shows as ending at $1600 was actually sold at a best offer of $1400 And this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/141466670430 Which shows as ending at $1650 was actually sold at a best offer of $1300 The only sale to reach over $1600 was in October: http://www.ebay.com/itm/311150248804 Thanks, that's what I get for using a "smart" phone to double check my numbers... That still leave us with an outlier sale of $1690 for a 9.8, back in October, which is before (I believe) the news on her officially being casted in the Suicide Squad movie was released. That was a mycomicshop "sale" and they are notorious for listing books on ebay as being "sold" (usually Copper Age books or thereabouts) at a full price that is very often significantly higher than multiple other listings on ebay. GPA still picks it up and records the sale but it almost always stands out as an outlier sale. There are recent sales of ASM 300 and 361, as well as NM 87 where they have done the same thing. -J. What do you mean exactly? MCS They are notorious. You make them sound shady. Is Comic connect notorious for selling Action Comics #1s? Just a poor choice of words or have you gone from bashing BA12 to now bashing sellers of as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 GPA can be slow on the uptake as it has solf for more than $1400. Actually, I got different results on my cell than on my laptop. *Three* 9.8 copies have sold in the $1600 range, per ebay completed/sold auction search. A 9.8 BA 12 paired with a 9.4 Harley Quinn 1994 1 shot (black Alex Ross cover, 1st print) sold for $2,0,50 The 1994 1-shot , slabbed in 9.4 trades for around $150-200. So, that sale can be viewed as $1850 to $1900 for a BA 12 in 9.8. Just be mindful, two of the sales you think went in the '$1600 range' did not. This one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/151546971810 Which shows as ending at $1600 was actually sold at a best offer of $1400 And this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/141466670430 Which shows as ending at $1650 was actually sold at a best offer of $1300 The only sale to reach over $1600 was in October: http://www.ebay.com/itm/311150248804 Thanks, that's what I get for using a "smart" phone to double check my numbers... That still leave us with an outlier sale of $1690 for a 9.8, back in October, which is before (I believe) the news on her officially being casted in the Suicide Squad movie was released. That was a mycomicshop "sale" and they are notorious for listing books on ebay as being "sold" (usually Copper Age books or thereabouts) at a full price that is very often significantly higher than multiple other listings on ebay. GPA still picks it up and records the sale but it almost always stands out as an outlier sale. There are recent sales of ASM 300 and 361, as well as NM 87 where they have done the same thing. -J. What do you mean exactly? MCS They are notorious. You make them sound shady. Is Comic connect notorious for selling Action Comics #1s? Just a poor choice of words or have you gone from bashing BA12 to now bashing sellers of as well? Who's "bashing" anything ? Maybe you should check your own choice of words and save the hyperbole. Marking books as "sold" on ebay at prices they did not actually sell for is what mycomicshop does, usually when the book actually sold directly from their site at a lower price. The sheer volume of their sales almost guarantees some bad sales slip through. Pointing this out with regards to this (and other books) does not constitute "bashing". -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iqc23 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) No matter what the sold price is. There are people who is going to say it's fishy Forever reason. Even if they have to make something up. Edited January 22, 2015 by Iqc23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkdrawer Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 GPA can be slow on the uptake as it has solf for more than $1400. Actually, I got different results on my cell than on my laptop. *Three* 9.8 copies have sold in the $1600 range, per ebay completed/sold auction search. A 9.8 BA 12 paired with a 9.4 Harley Quinn 1994 1 shot (black Alex Ross cover, 1st print) sold for $2,0,50 The 1994 1-shot , slabbed in 9.4 trades for around $150-200. So, that sale can be viewed as $1850 to $1900 for a BA 12 in 9.8. Just be mindful, two of the sales you think went in the '$1600 range' did not. This one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/151546971810 Which shows as ending at $1600 was actually sold at a best offer of $1400 And this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/141466670430 Which shows as ending at $1650 was actually sold at a best offer of $1300 The only sale to reach over $1600 was in October: http://www.ebay.com/itm/311150248804 Thanks, that's what I get for using a "smart" phone to double check my numbers... That still leave us with an outlier sale of $1690 for a 9.8, back in October, which is before (I believe) the news on her officially being casted in the Suicide Squad movie was released. That was a mycomicshop "sale" and they are notorious for listing books on ebay as being "sold" (usually Copper Age books or thereabouts) at a full price that is very often significantly higher than multiple other listings on ebay. GPA still picks it up and records the sale but it almost always stands out as an outlier sale. There are recent sales of ASM 300 and 361, as well as NM 87 where they have done the same thing. -J. What do you mean exactly? MCS They are notorious. You make them sound shady. Is Comic connect notorious for selling Action Comics #1s? Just a poor choice of words or have you gone from bashing BA12 to now bashing sellers of as well? Who's "bashing" anything ? Maybe you should check your own choice of words and save the hyperbole. Marking books as "sold" on ebay at prices they did not actually sell for is what mycomicshop does, usually when the book actually sold directly from their site at a lower price. The sheer volume of their sales almost guarantees some bad sales slip through. Pointing this out with regards to this (and other books) does not constitute "bashing". -J. I'm pretty sure most people are aware that you can actually buy the book and save a little bit going direct through MCS. Some buyers may elect to paymore and go through ebay and earn the ebay buck and often enough 4x ebay bucks. You can also use paypal on ebay. you can not on MCS. You must add 3% to a consigned book on the MCS site. Also I don't see how they would be able to show the sale was actually on ebay unless the sale was actually on ebay. Does it say the listing has ended or does it show sold and the price is in green. How is it possible without paying fees? why would they care to pay fees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 GPA can be slow on the uptake as it has solf for more than $1400. Actually, I got different results on my cell than on my laptop. *Three* 9.8 copies have sold in the $1600 range, per ebay completed/sold auction search. A 9.8 BA 12 paired with a 9.4 Harley Quinn 1994 1 shot (black Alex Ross cover, 1st print) sold for $2,0,50 The 1994 1-shot , slabbed in 9.4 trades for around $150-200. So, that sale can be viewed as $1850 to $1900 for a BA 12 in 9.8. Just be mindful, two of the sales you think went in the '$1600 range' did not. This one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/151546971810 Which shows as ending at $1600 was actually sold at a best offer of $1400 And this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/141466670430 Which shows as ending at $1650 was actually sold at a best offer of $1300 The only sale to reach over $1600 was in October: http://www.ebay.com/itm/311150248804 Thanks, that's what I get for using a "smart" phone to double check my numbers... That still leave us with an outlier sale of $1690 for a 9.8, back in October, which is before (I believe) the news on her officially being casted in the Suicide Squad movie was released. That was a mycomicshop "sale" and they are notorious for listing books on ebay as being "sold" (usually Copper Age books or thereabouts) at a full price that is very often significantly higher than multiple other listings on ebay. GPA still picks it up and records the sale but it almost always stands out as an outlier sale. There are recent sales of ASM 300 and 361, as well as NM 87 where they have done the same thing. -J. What do you mean exactly? MCS They are notorious. You make them sound shady. Is Comic connect notorious for selling Action Comics #1s? Just a poor choice of words or have you gone from bashing BA12 to now bashing sellers of as well? Who's "bashing" anything ? Maybe you should check your own choice of words and save the hyperbole. Marking books as "sold" on ebay at prices they did not actually sell for is what mycomicshop does, usually when the book actually sold directly from their site at a lower price. The sheer volume of their sales almost guarantees some bad sales slip through. Pointing this out with regards to this (and other books) does not constitute "bashing". -J. I'm pretty sure most people are aware that you can actually buy the book and save a little bit going direct through MCS. Some buyers may elect to paymore and go through ebay and earn the ebay buck and often enough 4x ebay bucks. You can also use paypal on ebay. you can not on MCS. You must add 3% to a consigned book on the MCS site. Also I don't see how they would be able to show the sale was actually on ebay unless the sale was actually on ebay. Does it say the listing has ended or does it show sold and the price is in green. How is it possible without paying fees? why would they care to pay fees? I don't sell comic books, so all I can do is throw a hypothetical question right back at you: would YOU pay $600 more for the an identical book just for the privilege of buying from MCS? On ebay, no less, not even direct ? Probably not. MCS is a very high volume seller on ebay no one knows what kind of arrangement they have as a result. But it is clearly unique. -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkdrawer Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 GPA can be slow on the uptake as it has solf for more than $1400. Actually, I got different results on my cell than on my laptop. *Three* 9.8 copies have sold in the $1600 range, per ebay completed/sold auction search. A 9.8 BA 12 paired with a 9.4 Harley Quinn 1994 1 shot (black Alex Ross cover, 1st print) sold for $2,0,50 The 1994 1-shot , slabbed in 9.4 trades for around $150-200. So, that sale can be viewed as $1850 to $1900 for a BA 12 in 9.8. Just be mindful, two of the sales you think went in the '$1600 range' did not. This one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/151546971810 Which shows as ending at $1600 was actually sold at a best offer of $1400 And this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/141466670430 Which shows as ending at $1650 was actually sold at a best offer of $1300 The only sale to reach over $1600 was in October: http://www.ebay.com/itm/311150248804 Thanks, that's what I get for using a "smart" phone to double check my numbers... That still leave us with an outlier sale of $1690 for a 9.8, back in October, which is before (I believe) the news on her officially being casted in the Suicide Squad movie was released. That was a mycomicshop "sale" and they are notorious for listing books on ebay as being "sold" (usually Copper Age books or thereabouts) at a full price that is very often significantly higher than multiple other listings on ebay. GPA still picks it up and records the sale but it almost always stands out as an outlier sale. There are recent sales of ASM 300 and 361, as well as NM 87 where they have done the same thing. -J. What do you mean exactly? MCS They are notorious. You make them sound shady. Is Comic connect notorious for selling Action Comics #1s? Just a poor choice of words or have you gone from bashing BA12 to now bashing sellers of as well? Who's "bashing" anything ? Maybe you should check your own choice of words and save the hyperbole. Marking books as "sold" on ebay at prices they did not actually sell for is what mycomicshop does, usually when the book actually sold directly from their site at a lower price. The sheer volume of their sales almost guarantees some bad sales slip through. Pointing this out with regards to this (and other books) does not constitute "bashing". -J. I'm pretty sure most people are aware that you can actually buy the book and save a little bit going direct through MCS. Some buyers may elect to paymore and go through ebay and earn the ebay buck and often enough 4x ebay bucks. You can also use paypal on ebay. you can not on MCS. You must add 3% to a consigned book on the MCS site. Also I don't see how they would be able to show the sale was actually on ebay unless the sale was actually on ebay. Does it say the listing has ended or does it show sold and the price is in green. How is it possible without paying fees? why would they care to pay fees? I don't sell comic books, so all I can do is throw a hypothetical question right back at you: would YOU pay $600 more for the an identical book just for the privilege of buying from MCS? On ebay, no less, not even direct ? Probably not. MCS is a very high volume seller on ebay no one knows what kind of arrangement they have as a result. But it is clearly unique. -J. if you've been tracking MCS sales for a certain length of time and had some hard facts to base the "Notorious" labeling, then I say you got something. However you select the hottest book today and undoubtably the largest comic book seller on eBay single sale to make your statement. We all know you missed the boat on BA12 and this thread is riddled with posts from you with nothing positive about it. Now you want to drag MCS down because one of their consigners sold a BA12 for a big price. What does MCS have to do with it? They don't set the price. The consigners do. MCS get 3% of the sale from the buyer and 8% from the seller. Sure they can have a special negotiated arrangement with ebay but that's all part of business, a the power to them if they earned that perk, but Imfamous rather than notorious is the adjective I'd be using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkdrawer Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 It's pretty much in poor form to go to any club of any book on these forms and have less than kind words for a said book. But I guess that's just your style. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 GPA can be slow on the uptake as it has solf for more than $1400. Actually, I got different results on my cell than on my laptop. *Three* 9.8 copies have sold in the $1600 range, per ebay completed/sold auction search. A 9.8 BA 12 paired with a 9.4 Harley Quinn 1994 1 shot (black Alex Ross cover, 1st print) sold for $2,0,50 The 1994 1-shot , slabbed in 9.4 trades for around $150-200. So, that sale can be viewed as $1850 to $1900 for a BA 12 in 9.8. Just be mindful, two of the sales you think went in the '$1600 range' did not. This one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/151546971810 Which shows as ending at $1600 was actually sold at a best offer of $1400 And this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/141466670430 Which shows as ending at $1650 was actually sold at a best offer of $1300 The only sale to reach over $1600 was in October: http://www.ebay.com/itm/311150248804 Thanks, that's what I get for using a "smart" phone to double check my numbers... That still leave us with an outlier sale of $1690 for a 9.8, back in October, which is before (I believe) the news on her officially being casted in the Suicide Squad movie was released. That was a mycomicshop "sale" and they are notorious for listing books on ebay as being "sold" (usually Copper Age books or thereabouts) at a full price that is very often significantly higher than multiple other listings on ebay. GPA still picks it up and records the sale but it almost always stands out as an outlier sale. There are recent sales of ASM 300 and 361, as well as NM 87 where they have done the same thing. -J. What do you mean exactly? MCS They are notorious. You make them sound shady. Is Comic connect notorious for selling Action Comics #1s? Just a poor choice of words or have you gone from bashing BA12 to now bashing sellers of as well? Who's "bashing" anything ? Maybe you should check your own choice of words and save the hyperbole. Marking books as "sold" on ebay at prices they did not actually sell for is what mycomicshop does, usually when the book actually sold directly from their site at a lower price. The sheer volume of their sales almost guarantees some bad sales slip through. Pointing this out with regards to this (and other books) does not constitute "bashing". -J. I'm pretty sure most people are aware that you can actually buy the book and save a little bit going direct through MCS. Some buyers may elect to paymore and go through ebay and earn the ebay buck and often enough 4x ebay bucks. You can also use paypal on ebay. you can not on MCS. You must add 3% to a consigned book on the MCS site. Also I don't see how they would be able to show the sale was actually on ebay unless the sale was actually on ebay. Does it say the listing has ended or does it show sold and the price is in green. How is it possible without paying fees? why would they care to pay fees? I don't sell comic books, so all I can do is throw a hypothetical question right back at you: would YOU pay $600 more for the an identical book just for the privilege of buying from MCS? On ebay, no less, not even direct ? Probably not. MCS is a very high volume seller on ebay no one knows what kind of arrangement they have as a result. But it is clearly unique. -J. if you've been tracking MCS sales for a certain length of time and had some hard facts to base the "Notorious" labeling, then I say you got something. However you select the hottest book today and undoubtably the largest comic book seller on eBay single sale to make your statement. We all know you missed the boat on BA12 and this thread is riddled with posts from you with nothing positive about it. Now you want to drag MCS down because one of their consigners sold a BA12 for a big price. What does MCS have to do with it? They don't set the price. The consigners do. MCS get 3% of the sale from the buyer and 8% from the seller. Sure they can have a special negotiated arrangement with ebay but that's all part of business, a the power to them if they earned that perk, but Imfamous rather than notorious is the adjective I'd be using. Junk, you have an odd way of making assumptions about my collection and only regarding selective points from my posts. I'm pretty sure I mentioned three other "Copper Age" books that I have seen MCS mark listing as "sold" at exorbitant prices that are way out of whack with multiple other listing that are readily viewable on ebay. This has nothing to do with "missing the boat" on what you call "the hottest book" (it's not, you should really venture out from the CA and MA sections by the way), and everything to do with pointing out the obvious shilling and pumping that's going on with this book. -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 It's pretty much in poor form to go to any club of any book on these forms and have less than kind words for a said book. But I guess that's just your style. Carry on. I have not said anything "unkind" about the book. Just the shillers. They are fair game my friend. (thumbs u -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkdrawer Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 GPA can be slow on the uptake as it has solf for more than $1400. Actually, I got different results on my cell than on my laptop. *Three* 9.8 copies have sold in the $1600 range, per ebay completed/sold auction search. A 9.8 BA 12 paired with a 9.4 Harley Quinn 1994 1 shot (black Alex Ross cover, 1st print) sold for $2,0,50 The 1994 1-shot , slabbed in 9.4 trades for around $150-200. So, that sale can be viewed as $1850 to $1900 for a BA 12 in 9.8. Just be mindful, two of the sales you think went in the '$1600 range' did not. This one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/151546971810 Which shows as ending at $1600 was actually sold at a best offer of $1400 And this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/141466670430 Which shows as ending at $1650 was actually sold at a best offer of $1300 The only sale to reach over $1600 was in October: http://www.ebay.com/itm/311150248804 Thanks, that's what I get for using a "smart" phone to double check my numbers... That still leave us with an outlier sale of $1690 for a 9.8, back in October, which is before (I believe) the news on her officially being casted in the Suicide Squad movie was released. That was a mycomicshop "sale" and they are notorious for listing books on ebay as being "sold" (usually Copper Age books or thereabouts) at a full price that is very often significantly higher than multiple other listings on ebay. GPA still picks it up and records the sale but it almost always stands out as an outlier sale. There are recent sales of ASM 300 and 361, as well as NM 87 where they have done the same thing. -J. What do you mean exactly? MCS They are notorious. You make them sound shady. Is Comic connect notorious for selling Action Comics #1s? Just a poor choice of words or have you gone from bashing BA12 to now bashing sellers of as well? Who's "bashing" anything ? Maybe you should check your own choice of words and save the hyperbole. Marking books as "sold" on ebay at prices they did not actually sell for is what mycomicshop does, usually when the book actually sold directly from their site at a lower price. The sheer volume of their sales almost guarantees some bad sales slip through. Pointing this out with regards to this (and other books) does not constitute "bashing". -J. I'm pretty sure most people are aware that you can actually buy the book and save a little bit going direct through MCS. Some buyers may elect to paymore and go through ebay and earn the ebay buck and often enough 4x ebay bucks. You can also use paypal on ebay. you can not on MCS. You must add 3% to a consigned book on the MCS site. Also I don't see how they would be able to show the sale was actually on ebay unless the sale was actually on ebay. Does it say the listing has ended or does it show sold and the price is in green. How is it possible without paying fees? why would they care to pay fees? I don't sell comic books, so all I can do is throw a hypothetical question right back at you: would YOU pay $600 more for the an identical book just for the privilege of buying from MCS? On ebay, no less, not even direct ? Probably not. MCS is a very high volume seller on ebay no one knows what kind of arrangement they have as a result. But it is clearly unique. -J. if you've been tracking MCS sales for a certain length of time and had some hard facts to base the "Notorious" labeling, then I say you got something. However you select the hottest book today and undoubtably the largest comic book seller on eBay single sale to make your statement. We all know you missed the boat on BA12 and this thread is riddled with posts from you with nothing positive about it. Now you want to drag MCS down because one of their consigners sold a BA12 for a big price. What does MCS have to do with it? They don't set the price. The consigners do. MCS get 3% of the sale from the buyer and 8% from the seller. Sure they can have a special negotiated arrangement with ebay but that's all part of business, a the power to them if they earned that perk, but Imfamous rather than notorious is the adjective I'd be using. Junk, you have an odd way of making assumptions about my collection and only regarding selective points from my posts. I'm pretty sure I mentioned three other "Copper Age" books that I have seen MCS mark listing as "sold" at exorbitant prices that are way out of whack with multiple other listing that are readily viewable on ebay. This has nothing to do with "missing the boat" on what you call "the hottest book" (it's not, you should really venture out from the CA and MA sections by the way), and everything to do with pointing out the obvious shilling and pumping that's going on with this book. -J. Comiclink sales a pretty strong. They blow GPA highs out of the water at a steady clip. Guess they are notorious too. I can give you a hundred of examples and not just 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycomicshop Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Thanks, that's what I get for using a "smart" phone to double check my numbers... That still leave us with an outlier sale of $1690 for a 9.8, back in October, which is before (I believe) the news on her officially being casted in the Suicide Squad movie was released. That was a mycomicshop "sale" and they are notorious for listing books on ebay as being "sold" (usually Copper Age books or thereabouts) at a full price that is very often significantly higher than multiple other listings on ebay. GPA still picks it up and records the sale but it almost always stands out as an outlier sale. There are recent sales of ASM 300 and 361, as well as NM 87 where they have done the same thing. -J. What do you mean exactly? MCS They are notorious. You make them sound shady. Is Comic connect notorious for selling Action Comics #1s? Just a poor choice of words or have you gone from bashing BA12 to now bashing sellers of as well? Who's "bashing" anything ? Maybe you should check your own choice of words and save the hyperbole. Marking books as "sold" on ebay at prices they did not actually sell for is what mycomicshop does, usually when the book actually sold directly from their site at a lower price. The sheer volume of their sales almost guarantees some bad sales slip through. Pointing this out with regards to this (and other books) does not constitute "bashing". -J. This statement is not correct: Marking books as "sold" on ebay at prices they did not actually sell for is what mycomicshop does, usually when the book actually sold directly from their site at a lower price. If a buyer clicks the eBay Buy It Now button, eBay marks the listing as sold. If a book sells on mycomicshop.com, then we tell ebay to end the eBay listing, and the listing should show as ended, not sold. Your language makes it sound like we are actively involved in creating false sales data, and that's not the case. The effect you are observing is a buyer clicking the Buy It Now on eBay and GPA collecting the sales data despite the sale not actually completing. We have no involvement in that process other than creating the initial eBay listing. For sales that take place on eBay, GPA collects that data themselves. We are not involved in reporting those sales or confirming whether a sale did or did not actually take place. If you have a concern about any sales of NM 87, ASM 361, or anything else, please PM me with the sale you're concerned about, I'll confirm if the sale completed or not, and if not I will let GPA know to remove it. For sales that take place on mycomicshop.com, we provide sales data to GPA, and we don't report sales until the book is paid for and shipped. I've PM'd George at GPA to ask if it would be possible for us to switch to reporting our own eBay sales, rather than GPA collecting them, so that we can report only the purchases that were successfully paid for and shipped. Regarding the BA12 CGC 9.8 sale: Oct-29-2014 $1690 0235918008 The ebay user never completed their purchase, so we never received an order from eBay. The item would have been automatically relisted on MCS and ebay after enough time had passed without payment. However, that same item did sell a couple months later December 30, through mycomicshop.com, for $1495.95, and that sale really happened and shipped to the buyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 It's pretty much in poor form to go to any club of any book on these forms and have less than kind words for a said book. But I guess that's just your style. Carry on. Absolutely. Just imagine what would happen in the Darkhawk thread . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Thanks, that's what I get for using a "smart" phone to double check my numbers... That still leave us with an outlier sale of $1690 for a 9.8, back in October, which is before (I believe) the news on her officially being casted in the Suicide Squad movie was released. That was a mycomicshop "sale" and they are notorious for listing books on ebay as being "sold" (usually Copper Age books or thereabouts) at a full price that is very often significantly higher than multiple other listings on ebay. GPA still picks it up and records the sale but it almost always stands out as an outlier sale. There are recent sales of ASM 300 and 361, as well as NM 87 where they have done the same thing. -J. What do you mean exactly? MCS They are notorious. You make them sound shady. Is Comic connect notorious for selling Action Comics #1s? Just a poor choice of words or have you gone from bashing BA12 to now bashing sellers of as well? Who's "bashing" anything ? Maybe you should check your own choice of words and save the hyperbole. Marking books as "sold" on ebay at prices they did not actually sell for is what mycomicshop does, usually when the book actually sold directly from their site at a lower price. The sheer volume of their sales almost guarantees some bad sales slip through. Pointing this out with regards to this (and other books) does not constitute "bashing". -J. This statement is not correct: Marking books as "sold" on ebay at prices they did not actually sell for is what mycomicshop does, usually when the book actually sold directly from their site at a lower price. If a buyer clicks the eBay Buy It Now button, eBay marks the listing as sold. If a book sells on mycomicshop.com, then we tell ebay to end the eBay listing, and the listing should show as ended, not sold. Your language makes it sound like we are actively involved in creating false sales data, and that's not the case. The effect you are observing is a buyer clicking the Buy It Now on eBay and GPA collecting the sales data despite the sale not actually completing. We have no involvement in that process other than creating the initial eBay listing. For sales that take place on eBay, GPA collects that data themselves. We are not involved in reporting those sales or confirming whether a sale did or did not actually take place. If you have a concern about any sales of NM 87, ASM 361, or anything else, please PM me with the sale you're concerned about, I'll confirm if the sale completed or not, and if not I will let GPA know to remove it. For sales that take place on mycomicshop.com, we provide sales data to GPA, and we don't report sales until the book is paid for and shipped. I've PM'd George at GPA to ask if it would be possible for us to switch to reporting our own eBay sales, rather than GPA collecting them, so that we can report only the purchases that were successfully paid for and shipped. Regarding the BA12 CGC 9.8 sale: Oct-29-2014 $1690 0235918008 The ebay user never completed their purchase, so we never received an order from eBay. The item would have been automatically relisted on MCS and ebay after enough time had passed without payment. However, that same item did sell a couple months later December 30, through mycomicshop.com, for $1495.95, and that sale really happened and shipped to the buyer. Thank you for clearing that up. By the way I was never attempting to imply that MCS was actively doing anything nefarious, I was merely stating that due to your high volume of transactions "bad sales" will inevitably slip through on ebay, potentially queer the market, as did happen with that particular copy of BA 12. (thumbs u Removal of that $1690 sale from GPA will make a dent in the book's 90 day average. -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broke as a Joke Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I believe a board member sold a copy on here for $1600 like a month ago. Not going to get recorded by GPA but still counts. This book at the high end will fetch that kind of money now. Crazy but true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
