Avengers 2: Age of Ultron - Seriously

[sagii]

I really enjoyed Avengers: Age of Ultron.

That said, and how it's probably not going to out gross the original domestically, i wonder if all those folks who were saying Cap 3 will crush BvS want to take those bets back.

 

Like i said in a previous post, since Cap 3 is being touted as Avengers 2.5, NO third installment in a trilogy bests the previous movies in gross or story quality. The third is always the weakest installment. ALWAYS. There are only two movies i can think of that were the exceptions, not the rule: Iron Man 3 (weakest story wise imho, but killed 2 at the box office), and Revenge of the Sith (story wise, best of the prequel trilogy)

BvS is 'fresh' in that it is the first time the two biggest super heroes of all times will be on the big screen together. It will beat Cap 3 easily.

 

 

 

Yep, the weakest installment.

ok, ok, you guys have come up with a few more exceptions( still not the rule though), and I'll concede, there maybe a few more. But I guess what I was really driving at is that by the third film, anticipation , And the wow factor are usually minimal if not gone altogether with mass audiences( Beverly Hills Cop 3).

Avengers 2.5. ( ur I mean Cap 3) will have the burden of topping a benchmark set by the original, and phase one of the Marvel movies in general. It's competing with itself and is in the position of what does it do for an encore?

BvS is in the position of making a splash and starting a new film dynasty. Yes it's competing with Avengers also, but People will line up to see the two greatest of all time duke it out. And if it's great/good , word of mouth will carry it to top position of 2016.

 

[NewWorldOrder]

Currently this movie needs a little less then 600 million to equal the first. China and Japan are next (12 May/4 July) When its said and done Avengers 2 will make close to or better then the first. I don't know what all the negativity is for? This movie is another BLOCKBUSTER, simple as that. 500 more million and it will beat Furious 7.... I believe it will!! wait and see. I'm going to go see it again this week for the second time.. LOVED IT!

 

Correct.

 

I you for being one of the only non-stupid boardie posts on the last couple of pages.

[Prince Namor]

But isn`t American money worth more than Chinese money? The American dollar is the standard.

 

The above assumes that a ticket price in the US is $10 and the ticket price in China is 10 Yuan. If the Yuan is 1/10 the value of a dollar, the price in China is likely closer to 100 Yuan for a ticket

 

exactly right, and the Worldwide (non-US) box office is expressed and calculated in US dollars, not foreign currencies. Yuan, etc, dont even enter the discussion of box office takes.

Do we have a source for that?

I`m not trying to be confrontational, but I `m a stickler for details.

 

 

Yes, it's called the dollar sign, right in front of the number.

 

At least I questioned the data, and didn`t follow it blindly like most sheep.

 

The data didn't have to be questioned....a basic degree in common sense would have gone a long way in this case.

 

Jim

Really? Who sez?

Tell me all your knowledge about the Yuan and Rupee?

I bet many CGC board members can`t.

By me bringing this up I brought some answers out in the open.

Maybe people want some clarification about China and the worldwide box office?

It`s a little more complicated than domestic.

 

You can talk and spin about China this and China that, but the

bottom line is The Age of Ultron will not beat The Avengers at the box office.

To me it`s disappointing and surprising.

 

 

 

[Prince Namor]

I wouldn't count Age of Ultron out just yet. I think you're still underestimating China.

 

As I think someone mentioned earlier, Furious 7 has done $339 million in the U.S. so far, but it's done $389 million in China. Age of Ultron hasn't even opened there yet.

 

I think Age of Ultron is going to end up around $475 million in the U.S. If it manages to follow the same pattern as Furious 7 - which is not a given, but possible - we're talking around $550 million in China. Just those two figures alone would push the worldwide total for Age of Ultron above the final take of Avengers.

 

$550 million in China seems like an awful lot, of course. But I think at least $400+ million is likely. And Japan is still yet to open as well.

 

I think Age of Ultron very well might beat Avengers in worldwide gross before this is all done.

Maybe, but it won`t come close to beating Avengers domestic.

Because of this I now will lower my expectations on Ant-Man`s domestic.

I was pegging it at 240 million. I don`t see it breaking 200 million domestic now.

btw I love Age of Ultron, but something's up with the lower domestic total.

Maybe piracy?

 

Really to do $623,357,910 domestic with Avengers,than to be at 324,791,589 Age of Ultron domestic is considered a major disappointment.

 

Age of Ultron was predicted to do 700 million domestic!

They better hope that Yuan converts good.

 

Maybe that it's only been playing for two weeks and we had the Mayweather/Pacquiao fight one of those weekends?

[Prince Namor]

I really enjoyed Avengers: Age of Ultron.

That said, and how it's probably not going to out gross the original domestically, i wonder if all those folks who were saying Cap 3 will crush BvS want to take those bets back.

 

Like i said in a previous post, since Cap 3 is being touted as Avengers 2.5, NO third installment in a trilogy bests the previous movies in gross or story quality. The third is always the weakest installment. ALWAYS. There are only two movies i can think of that were the exceptions, not the rule: Iron Man 3 (weakest story wise imho, but killed 2 at the box office), and Revenge of the Sith (story wise, best of the prequel trilogy)

BvS is 'fresh' in that it is the first time the two biggest super heroes of all times will be on the big screen together. It will beat Cap 3 easily.

 

Cap3?

 

 

One word (hyphenated): SPIDER-MAN

[Prince Namor]

I really enjoyed Avengers: Age of Ultron.

That said, and how it's probably not going to out gross the original domestically, i wonder if all those folks who were saying Cap 3 will crush BvS want to take those bets back.

Like i said in a previous post, since Cap 3 is being touted as Avengers 2.5, NO third installment in a trilogy bests the previous movies in gross or story quality. The third is always the weakest installment. ALWAYS. There are only two movies i can think of that were the exceptions, not the rule: Iron Man 3 (weakest story wise imho, but killed 2 at the box office), and Revenge of the Sith (story wise, best of the prequel trilogy)

BvS is 'fresh' in that it is the first time the two biggest super heroes of all times will be on the big screen together. It will beat Cap 3 easily.

Who made the bets? I missed that.

 

I will predict BvS will be the peak of this super hero movie bubble craze box office wise.

Avengers was phase 1 King, but nothing can top Batman v Superman with mainstream. The two icons duking it out.

After that Captain America 3 keeps up the momentum,than the slow slide begins.

 

 

 

Sure. After that all we have is the Infinity War, Thanos, Warlock, another Guardians of the Galaxy movie.....

[Prince Namor]

Currently this movie needs a little less then 600 million to equal the first. China and Japan are next (12 May/4 July) When its said and done Avengers 2 will make close to or better then the first. I don't know what all the negativity is for? This movie is another BLOCKBUSTER, simple as that. 500 more million and it will beat Furious 7.... I believe it will!! wait and see. I'm going to go see it again this week for the second time.. LOVED IT!

 

I agree.

[Prince Namor]

This Avengers movie still has AT LEAST a month more of domestic totals and two really big foreign markets to clean up in....

 

Word of mouth is overall positive about the movie, which means people who haven't seen it yet will be more likely to and that will include some of the people seeing it a second time (like me).

 

A2 will be AOK.

[chrisco37]

This Avengers movie still has AT LEAST a month more of domestic totals and two really big foreign markets to clean up in....

 

.

 

This is true. I haven't seen it yet, but I will be going (probably next weekend).

[NewWorldOrder]

This Avengers movie still has AT LEAST a month more of domestic totals and two really big foreign markets to clean up in....

 

Word of mouth is overall positive about the movie, which means people who haven't seen it yet will be more likely to and that will include some of the people seeing it a second time (like me).

 

A2 will be AOK.

 

A 2nd non-stupid boardie.

 

Today is starting off amazing!

[TupennyConan]

This thread stopped discussing how cool the movie was looooong ago. lol

 

Major thread drift.

[bane]

Nobody cares about the movie, its all about the moolah.

[TheLiamSturgess]

Nobody cares about the movie, its all about the moolah.

 

I couldn't care less about the moolah, since Disney ain't sharing any of that Avengers cash with us miscreants

[Prince Namor]

This thread stopped discussing how cool the movie was looooong ago. lol

 

Major thread drift.

 

I hear ya.

 

You've all been waiting on my review.

 

 

[Prince Namor]

Nobody cares about the movie, its all about the moolah.

 

I couldn't care less about the moolah, since Disney ain't sharing any of that Avengers cash with us miscreants

 

Moolah? What currency are we talking about now?

[ComicConnoisseur]

The movie has definitely lost the feeling of freshness and surprising fun that was a feature of the first.

 

I think the age of some of the actors has added to the jadedness of some of the performances as I've detailed earlier in this thread. Notably RDJ, Renner and Ruffalo. Also SJ as Widow was cringeworthy and spoiled the movie for the female I saw it with.

 

Loki was a far better villain than Ultron - the brother dynamic with Thor was very well handled and great for the plot. AOU was just left with the people 'hitting robots till they stop moving' plot device which has been played to death in numerous movies.

 

It just wasn't as good as the first in every notable way. The Direction, Acting, Effects, Plot, -script and Editing were second best to its older sibling.

Good well thought out post by you.

This is my spin on it.

What happened to as why the Avengers freshness is gone is quite simply this.

 

and

this

 

 

GOTG and Winter Soldier are not only the benchmarks for Marvel superhero movies,but great movies as well.

 

Is there anybody on here who liked Avengers Age of Ultron better than GOTG and Winter Soldier?

 

Anybody?

 

So that`s were the disappointment begins at the box office, than we have this gem

 

The worst thing was to watch Avengers Age of Ultron after watching Daredevil.

Daredevil is a masterpiece, while Avengers Age of Ultron was a step above Furious 7. It was very hard for me to get into Avengers Age of Ultron after watching Daredevil.

 

Now him.

He`s starting to become very unlikeable.

I don`t know if they are doing this to set up Civil War, but it`s working.

A year ago Iron Man was my favorite character, now it`s Captain America.

 

 

[ComicConnoisseur]

But isn`t American money worth more than Chinese money? The American dollar is the standard.

 

The above assumes that a ticket price in the US is $10 and the ticket price in China is 10 Yuan. If the Yuan is 1/10 the value of a dollar, the price in China is likely closer to 100 Yuan for a ticket

 

exactly right, and the Worldwide (non-US) box office is expressed and calculated in US dollars, not foreign currencies. Yuan, etc, dont even enter the discussion of box office takes.

Do we have a source for that?

I`m not trying to be confrontational, but I `m a stickler for details.

 

 

Yes, it's called the dollar sign, right in front of the number.

 

At least I questioned the data, and didn`t follow it blindly like most sheep.

 

The data didn't have to be questioned....a basic degree in common sense would have gone a long way in this case.

 

Jim

Really? Who sez?

Tell me all your knowledge about the Yuan and Rupee?

I bet many CGC board members can`t.

By me bringing this up I brought some answers out in the open.

Maybe people want some clarification about China and the worldwide box office?

It`s a little more complicated than domestic.

 

You can talk and spin about China this and China that, but the

bottom line is The Age of Ultron will not beat The Avengers at the box office.

To me it`s disappointing and surprising.

 

 

 

 

Next time you want to post a passive aggressive post.

Maybe you want one these?

 

I suggest this for your passive aggressive posts.

 

[Prince Namor]

But isn`t American money worth more than Chinese money? The American dollar is the standard.

 

The above assumes that a ticket price in the US is $10 and the ticket price in China is 10 Yuan. If the Yuan is 1/10 the value of a dollar, the price in China is likely closer to 100 Yuan for a ticket

 

exactly right, and the Worldwide (non-US) box office is expressed and calculated in US dollars, not foreign currencies. Yuan, etc, dont even enter the discussion of box office takes.

Do we have a source for that?

I`m not trying to be confrontational, but I `m a stickler for details.

 

 

Yes, it's called the dollar sign, right in front of the number.

 

At least I questioned the data, and didn`t follow it blindly like most sheep.

 

The data didn't have to be questioned....a basic degree in common sense would have gone a long way in this case.

 

Jim

Really? Who sez?

Tell me all your knowledge about the Yuan and Rupee?

I bet many CGC board members can`t.

By me bringing this up I brought some answers out in the open.

Maybe people want some clarification about China and the worldwide box office?

It`s a little more complicated than domestic.

 

You can talk and spin about China this and China that, but the

bottom line is The Age of Ultron will not beat The Avengers at the box office.

To me it`s disappointing and surprising.

 

 

 

 

Next time you want to post a passive aggressive post.

Maybe you want one these?

 

I suggest this for your passive aggressive posts.

 

Passive? What was passive about it?

[ComicConnoisseur]

I really enjoyed Avengers: Age of Ultron.

That said, and how it's probably not going to out gross the original domestically, i wonder if all those folks who were saying Cap 3 will crush BvS want to take those bets back.

Like i said in a previous post, since Cap 3 is being touted as Avengers 2.5, NO third installment in a trilogy bests the previous movies in gross or story quality. The third is always the weakest installment. ALWAYS. There are only two movies i can think of that were the exceptions, not the rule: Iron Man 3 (weakest story wise imho, but killed 2 at the box office), and Revenge of the Sith (story wise, best of the prequel trilogy)

BvS is 'fresh' in that it is the first time the two biggest super heroes of all times will be on the big screen together. It will beat Cap 3 easily.

Who made the bets? I missed that.

 

I will predict BvS will be the peak of this super hero movie bubble craze box office wise.

Avengers was phase 1 King, but nothing can top Batman v Superman with mainstream. The two icons duking it out.

After that Captain America 3 keeps up the momentum,than the slow slide begins.

 

 

 

Sure. After that all we have is the Infinity War, Thanos, Warlock, another Guardians of the Galaxy movie.....

That`s the thing. Going forward the Guardians of the Galaxy are the big players. The new cool people on the block, and not the Avengers.

 

[revat]

I really enjoyed Avengers: Age of Ultron.

That said, and how it's probably not going to out gross the original domestically, i wonder if all those folks who were saying Cap 3 will crush BvS want to take those bets back.

Like i said in a previous post, since Cap 3 is being touted as Avengers 2.5, NO third installment in a trilogy bests the previous movies in gross or story quality. The third is always the weakest installment. ALWAYS. There are only two movies i can think of that were the exceptions, not the rule: Iron Man 3 (weakest story wise imho, but killed 2 at the box office), and Revenge of the Sith (story wise, best of the prequel trilogy)

BvS is 'fresh' in that it is the first time the two biggest super heroes of all times will be on the big screen together. It will beat Cap 3 easily.

Who made the bets? I missed that.

 

I will predict BvS will be the peak of this super hero movie bubble craze box office wise.

Avengers was phase 1 King, but nothing can top Batman v Superman with mainstream. The two icons duking it out.

After that Captain America 3 keeps up the momentum,than the slow slide begins.

 

 

 

Sure. After that all we have is the Infinity War, Thanos, Warlock, another Guardians of the Galaxy movie.....

That`s the thing. Going forward the Guardians of the Galaxy are the big players. The new cool people on the block, and not the Avengers.

 

so? Avengers 3 part 2 will be like 5 years from now. Including Gaurdians 3, Captain Marvel 2, maybe Black Panther 2, Inhumans etc.... I'm guessing they have some very smart people attempting to figure it out. And I currently trust those people to keep MCU successful more than I do the DC group.