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[FrankCastle]

Problem is guys again, I'm talking first appearances of characters that aren't cast or aren't on for season 1? If the show is anywhere near decent, I still think there is a market for those down the line to increase in value as they are cast. You're right that selling 42 might be now, or even issue 1. But take $100 in 9.8 for #8 before Jody and T.C give America nightmares for the next 3 years. Not me.

 

Jay

[Bosco685]

Why Preacher Season 1 Will End Where The Comics Begin

 

“We almost end where the comic starts,” star Dominic Cooper reveals. “And it's so necessary because you need to get to know characters. The shows that are flawed and that haven't continued, however good they’ve been, have been when there's a kind of chaos of people that we can't, as an audience, get to know or understand, and therefore care about.

 

“I think what we have done is establish the roots of these people,” Cooper continues. “This is their home, this is the world in which they inhabit, this is where they've come from, this is the reason they go on this journey, which we learn throughout the comic with flashbacks and things like that. But you need to make a success of something to show. It's such a good environment anyway, such an interesting physical environment. This is their town, this is where we are, this is the beginning of the story. I think that was definitely an essential decision that was made, to ground something that can become extraordinarily flamboyant and all over the place.”

 

“I'm sure we'll end up, in some series down the road, in Hell or somewhere, or maybe in Heaven,” he speculates. “It'll become more and more extraordinary. I think it has to be embedded in something at the moment that people can grasp.”

 

“When I first met the guys, creatively, who were behind it, they said, ‘Look, we've got these beautiful, wonderfully well drawn-out characters, but we need to now make a world for it, and we need to be able to take it in any direction,’" Cooper recalls. “They’re going to stick to the idea - the journey, the search - because they have to. I think that's essential”

 

 

[gadzukes]

Why Preacher Season 1 Will End Where The Comics Begin

 

“We almost end where the comic starts,” star Dominic Cooper reveals. “And it's so necessary because you need to get to know characters. The shows that are flawed and that haven't continued, however good they’ve been, have been when there's a kind of chaos of people that we can't, as an audience, get to know or understand, and therefore care about.

 

“I think what we have done is establish the roots of these people,” Cooper continues. “This is their home, this is the world in which they inhabit, this is where they've come from, this is the reason they go on this journey, which we learn throughout the comic with flashbacks and things like that. But you need to make a success of something to show. It's such a good environment anyway, such an interesting physical environment. This is their town, this is where we are, this is the beginning of the story. I think that was definitely an essential decision that was made, to ground something that can become extraordinarily flamboyant and all over the place.”

 

“I'm sure we'll end up, in some series down the road, in Hell or somewhere, or maybe in Heaven,” he speculates. “It'll become more and more extraordinary. I think it has to be embedded in something at the moment that people can grasp.”

 

“When I first met the guys, creatively, who were behind it, they said, ‘Look, we've got these beautiful, wonderfully well drawn-out characters, but we need to now make a world for it, and we need to be able to take it in any direction,’" Cooper recalls. “They’re going to stick to the idea - the journey, the search - because they have to. I think that's essential”

 

 

To me, this is good news. They're taking their time. That means we can savor this slowly.

Edited May 22, 2016 by gadzukes

[Bosco685]

I liked it!

 

 

[comicjack]

I'm surprised no chime in yet but it was decent

Edited May 23, 2016 by comicjack

[gadzukes]

I was slightly underwhelmed by that first episode, but I did like many moments. I appreciate that they're taking their time with the characters, so I think this is a series where we have to cut them some slack for a few episodes.

 

One observation I made: I could understand Arseface better than I could understand Cassidy, and that shouldn't happen. I don't know if it was the accent or that he was mumbling or that they didn't have him mic'd very well, but I struggled to understand a lot of what Cassidy said. I did have my volume slightly turned down because my wife had just gone to bed, but I could hear everyone else just fine.

 

I'd like to know what someone thought of the premiere who has never read the comics.

 

Also, why are they going to have "Talking Preacher"? We don't even know if this is going to be a hit yet.

Edited May 23, 2016 by gadzukes

[comix4fun]

 

One observation I made: I could understand Arseface better than I could understand Cassidy, and that shouldn't happen. .

 

 

Maybe it was the subtitles.

[dpiercy]

I can't tell what I think of it yet. My 1st impressions are it is interesting and I really like Tulip and Cassidy.

[techvoodoo]

I asked this in the mordern thread but no one had any comment.

 

I've only read the first couple TPBs, and I avoided all the news about the show leading up to it, so some things caught me off guard. Mostly why'd they change Tulip so much?

 

I'll add, that since I haven't read a lot of the source material, maybe Tulip eventually develops into a character that more resembles the character from in the TV show (in action not appearance obviously) and the TV show just decided to rush that? I don't know just going out on a limb?

 

I just don't remember getting the impression from the comics that she was the crazy, blow mess up kick and take names sort of tough girl she was in the TV show.

[gadzukes]

 

One observation I made: I could understand Arseface better than I could understand Cassidy, and that shouldn't happen. .

 

 

Maybe it was the subtitles.

 

I knew someone was going to say that!

 

NO, that's not what I meant!

 

I didn't even need subtitles to understand Arseface, I could understand everything he said. In fact, I could understand him so well that I wondered if they were giving him subtitles as an homage to the comics. Perhaps the actor playing Arseface should tone down his consonants. After all he doesn't have any teeth or hard palette to create the consonants, but I could sure understand him clearly. If they're going to have subtitles for him then they should let him just talk with vowels. It would be funnier.

Edited May 23, 2016 by gadzukes

[comix4fun]

 

One observation I made: I could understand Arseface better than I could understand Cassidy, and that shouldn't happen. .

 

 

Maybe it was the subtitles.

 

I knew someone was going to say that!

 

NO, that's not what I meant!

 

I didn't even need subtitles for Arseface, I could understand everything he said. In fact, I could understand him so well that I wondered if they were giving him subtitles as an homage to the comics. Perhaps the actor playing Arseface should tone down his consonants, after all he doesn't have any teeth or hard palette to create the consonants, but I could sure understand him clearly. If they're going to have subtitles for him then they should let him just talk with vowels. It would be funnier.

 

 

I agree, he should be completely unintelligible....but Jesse can still understand him. I think that would be perfect for the tone of the show.

 

The subtitles thing is subliminal though. Without realizing it it filled in the gaps in what we heard and what it meant.

 

As for Cassidy, I understood more of what he was saying than I do with most of my off the boat Irish friends.

[comix4fun]

Oh and I loved that:

 

 

They threw in the sound of a crying baby just before the spirit jumped in the Jesse's body.

 

[Bosco685]

Oh and I loved that:

 

 

They threw in the sound of a crying baby just before the spirit jumped in the Jesse's body.

 

That was done right at the beginning of the episode as well when it is traveling to Earth and enters the first preacher in Africa.

[comix4fun]

Oh and I loved that:

 

 

They threw in the sound of a crying baby just before the spirit jumped in the Jesse's body.

 

That was done right at the beginning of the episode as well when it is traveling to Earth and enters the first preacher in Africa.

 

 

I have to watch a later showing. I missed the first 20 minutes.

[Bosco685]

I have to watch a later showing. I missed the first 20 minutes.

 

The first four minutes, which I liked as when Genesis shoots through space towards Earth, you hear it screaming all the way through Saturn's rings - and beyond.

 

[accessndx]

I asked this in the mordern thread but no one had any comment.

 

I've only read the first couple TPBs, and I avoided all the news about the show leading up to it, so some things caught me off guard. Mostly why'd they change Tulip so much?

 

I'll add, that since I haven't read a lot of the source material, maybe Tulip eventually develops into a character that more resembles the character from in the TV show (in action not appearance obviously) and the TV show just decided to rush that? I don't know just going out on a limb?

 

I just don't remember getting the impression from the comics that she was the crazy, blow mess up kick and take names sort of tough girl she was in the TV show.

 

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/05/preacher-tulip-ruth-negga

Preacher’s Tulip Shows How Far Comic Book Culture Has Come

 

The 90s heroine gets a badass update.

 

 

by Joanna Robinson,

 

 

When Garth Ennis and Steve Dillon created Preacher in 1995 they put their finger firmly on the pulse of comic book culture and then pushed all the boundaries to see how far they could go. Unlike a lot of the cape-and-tights tales that came before it, Preacher opened up a world of violence, sexual deviancy, and religious irreverence. But as progressive as the comics seemed at the time, we’ve come a long way in 20 years. Comic book culture has hit the modern mainstream and when adapting the books for television, Seth Rogen, Evan Goldberg, and Sam Catlin needed to add some serious updates. The best updated aspect of the AMC series so far? Female lead Tulip O’Hare played with incredible charisma by Ruth Negga.The character proves how welcome the comic book world has become for women.

 

By many metrics, Tulip on the page was already a pretty modern woman. She’s no fainting superhero girlfriend, that’s for sure. She’s tough, knows her way around a gun, and doesn’t let Jesse get away with a lot. Still, her introduction doesn’t put her in the strongest position. We meet her nervously preparing for a hit job. . .

 

. . .and then completely botching it and running away to be rescued by Cassidy.

 

Compare that to the absolutely rock-em, sock-em intro she gets in the series. There’s no hesitating, Negga’s Tulip will take down a car full of “bad men” and looking incredible while doing it. Tulip and Cassidy both get far more violent introductions on the screen to match Jesse’s gleeful barroom brawl. The trio are perfectly set up to do a lot of damage together.

 

But minutes after her harrowing car fight, Tulip calmly building a homemade bazooka while indoctrinating children on the ways of modern feminism. “A woman needs to know how to be strong. Stand on her own,” she says. But, before the message veers into ham-fisted territory, Tulip complicates it. “Man or woman. If you're lucky enough to fall in love you have to be even stronger. Fight like a lion to keep it alive. So that on the day your love is weak enough or selfish enough or freaking stupid enough to run away you have the strength to track him down and eat him alive.” Tulip does all this while wearing glasses and wrapped hair.

 

And, in that sense, she’s a far cry from the Tulip we find on the page.

 

The book version of Tulip is always sexualized. And some people, not wanting that change, were a little distressed to see Negga cast. “Ruth Negga is a weird choice for Tulip (Jesse's very violent girlfriend),” one disappointed comic fan wrote when the cast was announced. “I would have gone for an unknown and very thin blonde girl who can play a wide range of emotions, in particular love and anger.” And during the 20 years it took for Preacher to make its way to the screen, fans consistently cast a certain “type” to play the part. “Amber Heard, Anna Paquin, or Yvonne Strahovski from Chuck could all match the character’s appearance and personality well,” one fan site pitched. “All three are beautiful, blonde bombshells.”

 

Negga as Tulip is sexy. We first see her on the screen completely naked with a towel wrapped around her head. But she’s not under the male gaze in that scene, she’s all alone. And somehow the doesn’t feel exploitative at all. And Rogen and Goldberg made clear during a recent press conference that these updates were very intentional. “Tulip’s African American, and a little different, a little sassier,” Goldberg said when asked what significant changes were made. “She’s a little more volatile I think in a lot of ways than in the comic,” Rogen agreed.

 

The last thing Preacher did to ensure Tulip’s popularity was to make her an audience proxy. Unlike so many love interests of TV anti-heros (think Skyler White), Tulip isn’t trying to stop Jesse from doing what we all want him to do (punch bad guys, get his hands dirty). She’s the one egging him on. And, in a little nod to comic book readers, the writers had Tulip comment on one of the most significant physical changes on Dominic Cooper’s Jesse Custer. “You cut your hair,” Negga’s Tulip says fingering the place where Jesse’s famous mullet should be. “I hate it.” She may hate that change, but every change made to the TV version of Tulip is for the better. The AMC series took a great character and made her even better. Perfectly suited, in fact, for the world of Gal Gadot’s Wonder Woman, Krysten Ritter’s Jessica Jones, and Scarlett Johansson’s Black Widow. Praise the lord.

[greggy]

The best part was that Tom Cruise got killed.

[accessndx]

The best part was that Tom Cruise got killed.

 

I second that emotion.

[Awax]

The best part was that Tom Cruise got killed.

 

Hater

[Bosco685]

PREACHER Turns a Church Upside-down in Times Square

 

 

In one of the crazier promotions for a new television program appeared in New York's Times Square this weekend. The Preacher debut was celebrated by something that would've looked perfectly normal at San Diego Comic-Con, but was a bit out of place in the busiest cross section of streets in the United States.

 

A church, designated All Saints Congregational, was turned upside down in the middle of the recognizable location. When fans stopped by to check it (and previews of the show projected on a huge screen) out, if they posted a picture on their favorite social media platform and showed the proof, they were given a USB powerbank branded with the show's logo.