Crowzilla Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 On 9/20/2021 at 3:53 AM, lou_fine said: Would a CGC 7.0 graded copy be able to hit the million mark, or would it have to be at least a CGC 7.5 grade in order to do it? Since the 6.5 just closed for under $600K, I would think it needs to be at least a 7.5 to have a shot. lou_fine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 On 9/20/2021 at 1:49 PM, rsouxlja7 said: A 2.0 from the Promise Collection is now listed in Heritage's previews (no photo yet). Photos up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Boy Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 On 9/21/2021 at 10:18 AM, batman_fan said: Photos up now. Looks decent. There are too many Bat 1's in circulation. Takes all the fun out of this historic book IMO. Is that a second Cap 1 Promise Book up for auction or is it the one from the first auction relished ? (another mega key with too many in circulation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GreatCaesarsGhost Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 The 2.0 Bat 1 in the last Heritage auction went for $220k. It had better page quality and eye appeal. So I guess $180k for this one, if not for the Promise pedigree. And it remains to be seen IMO whether the pedigree helps, hurts, or has no effect what do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpc3qh Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 On 9/21/2021 at 12:17 PM, GreatCaesarsGhost said: The 2.0 Bat 1 in the last Heritage auction went for $220k. It had better page quality and eye appeal. So I guess $180k for this one, if not for the Promise pedigree. And it remains to be seen IMO whether the pedigree helps, hurts, or has no effect what do you guys think? I think it'll be right around 200k; the weaker eye appeal will drag it down some, but not significantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Boy Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 On 9/21/2021 at 11:17 AM, GreatCaesarsGhost said: The 2.0 Bat 1 in the last Heritage auction went for $220k. It had better page quality and eye appeal. So I guess $180k for this one, if not for the Promise pedigree. And it remains to be seen IMO whether the pedigree helps, hurts, or has no effect what do you guys think? Less. I don't think the Promise Pedigree will make a difference at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmehdy Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 On 9/21/2021 at 9:17 AM, GreatCaesarsGhost said: The 2.0 Bat 1 in the last Heritage auction went for $220k. It had better page quality and eye appeal. So I guess $180k for this one, if not for the Promise pedigree. And it remains to be seen IMO whether the pedigree helps, hurts, or has no effect what do you guys think? 240K Professor K 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatCaesarsGhost Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 On 9/21/2021 at 3:05 PM, Mmehdy said: 240K You’re a bold man, @Mmehdy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmehdy Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 On 9/21/2021 at 1:09 PM, GreatCaesarsGhost said: You’re a bold man, @Mmehdy It a bold comic book market now, and Bat #1 is a great book..... I am not Glenda 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) On 9/21/2021 at 11:00 AM, Chicago Boy said: Less. I don't think the Promise Pedigree will make a difference at all Well, based upon the crazy prices that we have seen for most of the Promise books so far, this would be one of the rare exceptions to the case then. Edited September 22, 2021 by lou_fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor K Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 I wonder why so much foxing and or staining on that Promise Bat 1. Considering most of the books from his collection were 8.0's or better and all very clean. Maybe it was stored in a different place. That last Bat 1 2.0 that went for 222,000 was about as nice a 2.0 as you could hope to see, even with a little tape inside. This Promise 2.0 will probably sell for about the same or dare I say a little less. Sooner or later this stuff has got to start slowing down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowzilla Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 On 9/22/2021 at 10:47 PM, Professor K said: I wonder why so much foxing and or staining on that Promise Bat 1. Considering most of the books from his collection were 8.0's or better and all very clean. Maybe it was stored in a different place. How you take care of books when you are 10-12 is very different than how you take care of books when you are 18-20. Professor K 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor K Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 3:25 AM, Crowzilla said: How you take care of books when you are 10-12 is very different than how you take care of books when you are 18-20. Yes thats the first thing I thought. In 1940 he was probably no more than 10 years old (Sad thinking about it now). I was thinking more of the foxing than overall condition. I don't blame him for handling the Bat 1 a lot. But then I thought foxing takes many years to form, I guess it can form in 10 years but it's usually longer. This Bat 1 is no more than 10 years older than the youngest book in the collection and that shouldnt make much difference in 2020. Just thinking why one book would fox up while the others stayed so pure. No big deal really, just something I noticed. Guess I watched too much Columbo, always trying to tie up those loose ends. Or Socretes, always asking "why?"......which is why they killed him I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatCaesarsGhost Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 (edited) On 9/23/2021 at 1:44 PM, Professor K said: Yes thats the first thing I thought. In 1940 he was probably no more than 10 years old (Sad thinking about it now). I was thinking more of the foxing than overall condition. I don't blame him for handling the Bat 1 a lot. But then I thought foxing takes many years to form, I guess it can form in 10 years but it's usually longer. This Bat 1 is no more than 10 years older than the youngest book in the collection and that shouldnt make much difference in 2020. Just thinking why one book would fox up while the others stayed so pure. No big deal really, just something I noticed. Guess I watched too much Columbo, always trying to tie up those loose ends. Or Socretes, always asking "why?"......which is why they killed him I suppose. Equally odd is the rusted out staple on the Cap 1. To me, the Cap 1 and the Bat 1 got stored differently than the 9.8 white pagers we've been seeing i think when Lon and Ed went in, these were still on the back of the commode Edited September 23, 2021 by GreatCaesarsGhost Professor K and Larryw7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowzilla Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 3:03 PM, GreatCaesarsGhost said: Equally odd is the rusted out staple on the Cap 1. To me, the Cap 1 and the Bat 1 got stored differently than the 9.8 white pagers we've been seeing The Bat 2 and even the 9 have similar damage as does the Captain Marvel #1, Special Edition #1, and a few other early books. We're still only 30%(ish) of the way into the collection. And it seems that the issues he got when he first started were well loved and read by a much younger person than just a few years later. Most likely we will see more books from the 1940 and 41 period that are more heavily worn than 42-43, and then by 44ish he really starts taking care of them. Makes sense to me, I first started buying back issues (for more than cover price) right around my 10th birthday and even though I thought I was taking care of them, there is a big difference between how those books look (the few I still have) and how ones I purchased at ages 14 and 15 look. Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woowoo Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) On 9/21/2021 at 1:09 PM, GreatCaesarsGhost said: You’re a bold man, @Mmehdy Hey i found your avatar brother Edited September 25, 2021 by woowoo Dark Knight 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatCaesarsGhost Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Good work @woowoo! woowoo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat-Man_America Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 On 9/25/2021 at 2:12 PM, woowoo said: Hey i found your avatar brother Hey, is that Mitch, just outta frame cracking open his combination piggy bank to dive into the fray? GreatCaesarsGhost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatCaesarsGhost Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Reading thru old threads and found this: Sarg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
