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Fantastic Four from Fox Studios (8/7/15)
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Four. Sue Storm is not American, she was born in Kosovo, which may explain why she may have been adopted. And why she may have an aversion to the military. She has specialist skills in pattern recognition which see her beat Reed Richards’ brain, tracking him down when she is on the run. Oh and she listens to Portishead.

 

Seriously Fox? Sue isn't even American? :facepalm:

 

Portishead are great.

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I'm dreading going to see this movie this weekend. And I have to do a review on it.

 

With the movies MI: Rogue Nation (action-2nd week), Shaun the Sheep (kids-opening), and The Gift (thriller-opening) you might be the only one in the theatre. Not only are the bad reviews off-putting, but the FF is up against some strong competition for viewer money.

 

I agree with others that this can wait until it is streaming on Netflix, or at best Red Box.

-Terry

 

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The latest reboot of the Fantastic Four - the cinematic equivalent of malware - is worse than worthless. It not only scrapes the bottom of the barrel; it knocks out the floor and sucks audiences into a black hole of soul-crushing, coma-inducing dullness.

 

Peter Travers

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The positive we can take from this FF movie is now all future comic book movies will use FF as the benchmark of what not to do with iconic comic book characters.

 

Indeed, sticking to the source material, the original costumes, etc. is a key lesson learned.

 

But this movie failed epically for reasons well beyond deviation from the iconic Lee/Kirby mythology. There is a story behind the movie that at some point will be told in clear detail. Based on the rumours about Trank over the last 12 months, the reshooting that took place in the Spring, and what -- based on what many of the critics have been pointing out -- appears to have been a completely redone/reworked final 25% of the film -- which perhaps suggests that Fox Studios didn't like the original director's cut that maybe lacked sufficient action (?) -- this was a production and -script train wreck that Fox Studios and the film's producers are as much responsible for as anyone. I'm not defending Mr. Trank, but I'm sure if he could speak freely about WTF happened, we would hear an interesting side of the story.

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The positive we can take from this FF movie is now all future comic book movies will use FF as the benchmark of what not to do with iconic comic book characters.

 

Indeed, sticking to the source material, the original costumes, etc. is a key lesson learned.

 

But this movie failed epically for reasons well beyond deviation from the iconic Lee/Kirby mythology. There is a story behind the movie that at some point will be told in clear detail. Based on the rumours about Trank over the last 12 months, the reshooting that took place in the Spring, and what -- based on what many of the critics have been pointing out -- appears to have been a completely redone/reworked final 25% of the film -- which perhaps suggests that Fox Studios didn't like the original director's cut that maybe lacked sufficient action (?) -- this was a production and -script train wreck that Fox Studios and the film's producers are as much responsible for as anyone. I'm not defending Mr. Trank, but I'm sure if he could speak freely about WTF happened, we would hear an interesting side of the story.

 

you seriously think if the costumes were more similar to the originals that would have had ANY impact on the reviews or the box office? How many people 18-49 in America do you think have read Fantastic Four 1-5. 10K? What percent of movie critics do you think have read Fantastic Four 1-5? A marginally higher percentage than the general population? I know I haven't, and I like comics. A LOT.

 

The movie didn't fail because the ideas because the ideas weren't true to the original, it failed because the ideas were bad. How similar was Cap 2 to anything we've read? Or Spider-Man 1, or the good X-men movies? You take the ideas and assemble and add things in a way that makes things fun and relevant and entertaining, hopefully. That doesn't mean there isn't a good TRUE movie out there to be told, just that I wouldn't count on the lesson learned from this to be 'stay true to the source material'.

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The positive we can take from this FF movie is now all future comic book movies will use FF as the benchmark of what not to do with iconic comic book characters.

 

Indeed, sticking to the source material, the original costumes, etc. is a key lesson learned.

 

But this movie failed epically for reasons well beyond deviation from the iconic Lee/Kirby mythology. There is a story behind the movie that at some point will be told in clear detail. Based on the rumours about Trank over the last 12 months, the reshooting that took place in the Spring, and what -- based on what many of the critics have been pointing out -- appears to have been a completely redone/reworked final 25% of the film -- which perhaps suggests that Fox Studios didn't like the original director's cut that maybe lacked sufficient action (?) -- this was a production and -script train wreck that Fox Studios and the film's producers are as much responsible for as anyone. I'm not defending Mr. Trank, but I'm sure if he could speak freely about WTF happened, we would hear an interesting side of the story.

 

you seriously think if the costumes were more similar to the originals that would have had ANY impact on the reviews or the box office? How many people 18-49 in America do you think have read Fantastic Four 1-5. 10K? What percent of movie critics do you think have read Fantastic Four 1-5? A marginally higher percentage than the general population? I know I haven't, and I like comics. A LOT.

 

The movie didn't fail because the ideas because the ideas weren't true to the original, it failed because the ideas were bad. How similar was Cap 2 to anything we've read? Or Spider-Man 1, or the good X-men movies? You take the ideas and assemble and add things in a way that makes things fun and relevant and entertaining, hopefully. That doesn't mean there isn't a good TRUE movie out there to be told, just that I wouldn't count on the lesson learned from this to be 'stay true to the source material'.

 

Revat, we're generally saying the same thing. The simple point in my first paragraph about staying true to the source material (which is what Marvel Studios generally does) is the least of it. Focus instead on my second paragraph -- this movie crashed and burned because of an utter failure to execute by producers and writers, and the director, over their general idea, which was to tell the Ultimate FF story to a modern audience. Those Ultimate FF books (I've read the first dozen or so) are pretty darn good. This production/writing/direction team just didn't do what they set out to do.

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I'm dreading going to see this movie this weekend. And I have to do a review on it.

 

With the movies MI: Rogue Nation (action-2nd week), Shaun the Sheep (kids-opening), and The Gift (thriller-opening) you might be the only one in the theatre. Not only are the bad reviews off-putting, but the FF is up against some strong competition for viewer money.

 

I agree with others that this can wait until it is streaming on Netflix, or at best Red Box.

-Terry

 

Strong competition? Shaun is supposed to do $4MM, The Gift $8MM. MI will be $30MM at best. If the reviews weren't close to Guinness record book awful, this movie had clear sailing this weekend.

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I'm dreading going to see this movie this weekend. And I have to do a review on it.

 

With the movies MI: Rogue Nation (action-2nd week), Shaun the Sheep (kids-opening), and The Gift (thriller-opening) you might be the only one in the theatre. Not only are the bad reviews off-putting, but the FF is up against some strong competition for viewer money.

 

I agree with others that this can wait until it is streaming on Netflix, or at best Red Box.

-Terry

 

Strong competition? Shaun is supposed to do $4MM, The Gift $8MM. MI will be $30MM at best. If the reviews weren't close to Guinness record book awful, this movie had clear sailing this weekend.

Going to Shaun the sheep this weekend. :popcorn:
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Just checked rotten tomatoes and so far the movies has a 9% rating. Yikes. I know I read that Marvel and Fox have a strong dislike for each other, studio heads that is. But could this possible lead to Marvel Studio getting the FF rights back? Hope so.

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There is a 300 page topic on this in the movie section. It has current live tracking of all reviews and percentages. Have fun reading it! :)

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On a tablet, so don't know how to embed yet, but I thought this was pretty good.

I had no idea Trank was actually trying to get sympathy for his adolescent gynecomastia. :facepalm:

 

 

Fantastic Four awkward interviews, marketing movie crew as victims

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