WernerVonDoom Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) Unfortunately, anyone assuming the 2014 #1 movie studio is hoping Disney will pay them for the Fantastic Four rights is missing that key fact. Money is not the play here. Now that X-Franchise TV rights - that's where the negotiation focus should rightly focus. Fox wants them - and Disney owns them. There is no getting around those facts. Money is always the play. X-Men TV rights are worth money. Keeping the rights away from Marvel is worth money. Fox's future FF profits and Marvel's future FF profits are worth a dollar amount (not the same). With the situation as it is now, it seems like there is a deal to be made were both sides make a profit (whether it is cash, or cash/rights exchange). Edited August 16, 2015 by Werner_Von_Doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddieMercede Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 That Miles Teller guy is so unlikable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted August 16, 2015 Author Share Posted August 16, 2015 Unfortunately, anyone assuming the 2014 #1 movie studio is hoping Disney will pay them for the Fantastic Four rights is missing that key fact. Money is not the play here. Now that X-Franchise TV rights - that's where the negotiation focus should rightly focus. Fox wants them - and Disney owns them. There is no getting around those facts. Money is always the play. X-Men TV rights are worth money. Keeping the rights away from Marvel is worth money. Fox's future FF profits and Marvel's future FF profits are worth a dollar amount (not the same). With the situation as it is now, it seems like there is a deal to be made were both sides make a profit (whether it is cash, or cash/rights exchange). Money is probably not going to get any negotiation going between these two companies unless it is so ridiculously high, it would be crazy not to take Disney serious. But with the dislike between the two companies, it is going to take more than that to break down the barriers. And with the X-Franchise TV request already active, it would seem part of that conversation naturally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doktor Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Even if Marvel only got a bunch of the villains back from the FF contract (and maybe an agreement on the Skrull situation) they'd probably be willing to accept it in trade for the X-tv rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted August 16, 2015 Author Share Posted August 16, 2015 BOX OFFICE: FANTASTIC FOUR experiences 69% dropoff The bad news continued for Fantastic Four this weekend as Fox's superhero franchise re-launch attempt was down two spots to place in fourth with an estimated $8.00 million. Fantastic Four was down a massive 69 percent from last weekend's already disappointing start. The sharp second weekend decline for Fantastic Four didn't come as a surprise given the film's toxic word of mouth, the competition it faced from the break-out performance of Straight Outta Compton and the Fantastic Four franchise being naturally front-loaded to begin with. Fantastic Four has managed just $41.96 million in ten days. The film is currently running 57 percent behind the $97.46 million ten-day gross of 2007's Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Arkham Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Ouch. And the $120MM estimated doesn't include marketing dollars spent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandGothic Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Reminds me of another FOX misfire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 It will be lucky to make $12 Million next weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 It will be lucky to make $12 Million next weekend. I *almost* said $8 million, but thought that was just too impossibly low. Looks like I should have gone with my gut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Surfer Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 That Miles Teller guy is so unlikable. He has a face that compels one to take a swing at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackenzie999 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I had no idea Trank bowed out of Star Wars, I thought he was still involved. Kinda glad he's out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Cataldo Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I had no idea Trank bowed out of Star Wars, I thought he was still involved. Kinda glad he's out. He was tossed. He didn't quit. Good riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperheart Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I had no idea Trank bowed out of Star Wars, I thought he was still involved. Kinda glad he's out. "bowed out." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doktor Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) Fox isn't even running ads in my market for this anymore. I don't know if they've pulled ads for it everywhere, but at least locally, I haven't even seen a commercial for it in about 4 days. I think they realized how bad things were & are trying to limit losses by avoiding throwing good money after bad on keeping up the advertising campaign. But interestingly enough, I saw an Ant-Man commercial today still. Edited August 17, 2015 by Doktor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr 9.8 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Now that you mention it I haven't seen one either since Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldeneye Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Fox isn't even running ads in my market for this anymore. I don't know if they've pulled ads for it everywhere, but at least locally, I haven't even seen a commercial for it in about 4 days. I think they realized how bad things were & are trying to limit losses by avoiding throwing good money after bad on keeping up the advertising campaign. But interestingly enough, I saw an Ant-Man commercial today still. I keep seeing ads for The Thing Burger with Denny's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr 9.8 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Fox isn't even running ads in my market for this anymore. I don't know if they've pulled ads for it everywhere, but at least locally, I haven't even seen a commercial for it in about 4 days. I think they realized how bad things were & are trying to limit losses by avoiding throwing good money after bad on keeping up the advertising campaign. But interestingly enough, I saw an Ant-Man commercial today still. I keep seeing ads for The Thing Burger with Denny's I haven't seen those since the movie opened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldeneye Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Fox isn't even running ads in my market for this anymore. I don't know if they've pulled ads for it everywhere, but at least locally, I haven't even seen a commercial for it in about 4 days. I think they realized how bad things were & are trying to limit losses by avoiding throwing good money after bad on keeping up the advertising campaign. But interestingly enough, I saw an Ant-Man commercial today still. I keep seeing ads for The Thing Burger with Denny's I haven't seen those since the movie opened. I saw one today on the Food Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted August 17, 2015 Author Share Posted August 17, 2015 Looks like the foreign box office was higher than originally forecasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revat Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 At this point they should do troll reverse marketing. Have Josh Trank just do a PSA - type commercial. "You've heard Fantastic Four is one of the worst movies EVER. Honestly, I'm ashamed to have been involved with it. It truly is an abomination. It will make you feel pity for Kate Mara, one of the richest, most beautiful and talented young women in America, and want to punch Miles Teller in the face EVEN MORE. But you really can't understand the true depths of its hilarious awfulness, until you SEE IT FOR YOURSELF. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
