Popular Post Get Marwood & I Posted March 10, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2017 Hello. October 2021 here If you are reading this thread for the first time, you will find an early summary of the Marvel UKPVs that have been confirmed to exist followed by a hundred pages of subsequent discoveries. If you can't be bothered to read all hundred pages, and want to skip to the latest figures for Marvel (and all the other UKPV bearing publishers) please see here: https://boards.cgccomics.com/blogs/blog/628-john-morlars-pence-palace-of-doom-and-other-comic-miscellany/ Very handy of course, but think of all the fun you'll miss.... Everything beyond this point is vintage...... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hello. I thought I'd resurrect this subject, albeit in a new thread. New boards, new thread. And besides, my previous thread title was a bit of a mouthful. Currently, I have documented 2,992 Marvel comics with pence only printed prices published between the dates of: May 1960 - the date of the first known single 9d price printed comics (e.g. Gunsmoke Western #58, JIM #58, Strange Tales #75) December 1981 – the last month before consistent dual pence/cents pricing commenced (a nice easy tie off, effectively ending the existence of pence only priced variants). They are documented on a spreadsheet that looks like this...... .....and I have scans / images of every comic saved in folders like this: If you are interested in pence variants, here are some observations: The first Pence only printed Marvel comics found are Gunsmoke Western #58 and Journey Into Mystery #58 cover dated May 1960. No Pence printed issues dated prior to May 1960 have been found The last Pence only printed Marvel comics are cover dated December 1981. From January 1982, Marvel introduced dual Cents / Pence pricing for all their Direct Editions (Newsstand Editions remained Cents only priced) No Pence copies have been found for comics cover dated December 1964 to July 1965 inclusive. Most monthly titles have a 9 or 10 issue gap around these dates Almost every title which crosses the cover dates of October 1966 to December 1966 has a two issue Pence gap. This may explain why ASM Completists haven’t found #42 and #43 yet. They probably don’t exist. Ditto Avengers 33/34, Daredevil 21/22, Fantastic Four 56/57, Sgt Fury 35/36, Tales To Astonish 85/86. However, Strange Tales only misses one issue (#151) as does Tales of Suspense (#84). Two-Gun Kid has all issues as Pence copy but as a bi-monthly title you can see there may have been a missing issue had it been monthly No Pence copies have been found for comics cover dated December 1967 to March 1969 inclusive – 16 issue gap No Pence copies have been found for comics cover dated April 1974 to July 1974 inclusive. This 4 issue gap coincides with the transition from 6p to 7p No Pence copies have been found for comics cover dated February 1981 to March 1981 inclusive. This 2 issue gap coincides with the transition from 15p to 20p Many single issues do not appear to exist when the issue was double sized, e.g. Avengers #200, Astonishing Tales #8, Ghost Rider #50, The Invaders #41, Thor #300, X-Men #137 No Pence copies have been found for the ‘Giant Size’ titles of 1974 and 1975 Only 5 annuals have been found as Pence only printed copies, all cover dated 1965 (Amazing Spider-Man #2, Fantastic Four #3, Journey Into Mystery #1, Marvel Tales #2, Sgt Fury #1) Whilst I am fairly confident that I know what exists for the majority of the 200 titles which cross the applicable dates, there are some titles - especially the early ones - which have gaps where a pence version may exist. Here is a list of some of the titles and issue numbers which may yet turn out to have a pence version: If anyone reading has a pence version of one of these, do let me know - I'll update this thread if and when I find any new ones, or if anyone wants to talk pence related stuff. I'll end with a scan of a recent addition Cheers! Frisco Larson, mec3437, Rip and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryfe1000 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) A great read. You've obviously put a lot of work into this. Good work fella Edited March 10, 2017 by Stryfe1000 Get Marwood & I 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r100comics Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Excellent research and analysis ! Point 7 ties to the fact that I was once told that Thor #304 & #305 were N.D. (non-distributed) in the UK. They are cover dated Feb & March 1981. Get Marwood & I 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 19 hours ago, r100comics said: Excellent research and analysis ! Point 7 ties to the fact that I was once told that Thor #304 & #305 were N.D. (non-distributed) in the UK. They are cover dated Feb & March 1981. Thanks! Yep, you won't find Thor 304 or 305 for that reason. Or 300 it seems, probably because it was a double size issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Here are the titles with no pence issues at all - but I'm always happy to be corrected! Titles With No Pence Printed Price Issues Produced / Found A Date With Millie Adventures On The Planet Of The Apes Amazing Adventures Feat. X-Men America's Best TV Comics ARRGH! Battle Beware! Captain Savage The Cat Chili Combat Kelly & The Deadly Dozen Crazy The Deep Dennis The Menace Devil Dinosaur Doc Savage Doctor Strange (1st Series) Dragonslayer Dynomutt Fantasy Masterpieces (2nd Series) The Flintstones For Your Eyes Only Francis, Brother Of The Universe Fun & Games Magazine Giant Size.. Titles Godzilla Groovy Gunhawks Gun-Slinger Harvey Homer The Happy Ghost Iron Man & Sub-Mariner Island of Dr. Moreau Kathy Ka-Zar (1st Series) King Conan Laff-A-Lympics Life With Millie Li'l Kids Li'l Pals Linda Carter, Student Nurse Love Romances Mad About Millie Man From Atlantis Marvel Adventure Featuring Daredevil Marvel Collector's Item Classics Marvel Feature Marvel Spectacular Mighty Marvel Western Millie The Model Modeling With Millie My Love My Own Romance Nick Fury Agent Of Shield Night Nurse Our Love Story The Outlaw Kid Patsy Walker Patsy Walker's Fashion Parade Peter The Little Pest / Petey Raiders Of The Lost Ark Red Wolf Ringo Kid Scooby-Doo Shanna The She-Devil S.H.I.E.L.D, Nick Fury And His Agents Of Special Marvel Edition Spider-Man & His Amazing Friends Spidey Super Stories Spoof Spotlight (Hannah-Barbera) Tales of Asgard Teen-Age Romance Tower Of Shadows TV Stars, Hanna-Barbera Uncanny Tales (From The Grave) War Is Hell Western Gunfighters Western Kid Western Team-Up What If? Where Creatures Roam Yogi Bear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Some key dates in pence history: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r100comics Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Was there ever a pence Conan #1 ? There was a lot of debate on here a while back with people offering bucks if someone could find one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 (edited) 21 hours ago, r100comics said: Was there ever a pence Conan #1 ? There was a lot of debate on here a while back with people offering bucks if someone could find one.... If there is one, it's very well hidden. The first pence Conan is number 11 at 6p. The date, Nov 71, coincides with the introduction of decimalisation prices so you can kind of see the natural starting point there. Edited March 12, 2017 by Marwood & I Added a pretty picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 Does anyone want to talk about pence variants tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I just sent a low grade TTA 35 pence version to Mycomicshop on consignment if anyone is interested. It will be available in a week or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted March 25, 2017 Author Share Posted March 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, shadroch said: I just sent a low grade TTA 35 pence version to Mycomicshop on consignment if anyone is interested. It will be available in a week or so. If I didn't already have a scan of one, I'd be on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 On 3/10/2017 at 5:40 AM, Marwood & I said: Almost every title which crosses the cover dates of October 1966 to December 1966 has a two issue Pence gap. This may explain why ASM Completists haven’t found #42 and #43 yet. They probably don’t exist. Ditto Avengers 33/34, Daredevil 21/22, Fantastic Four 56/57, Sgt Fury 35/36, Tales To Astonish 85/86. However, Strange Tales only misses one issue (#151) as does Tales of Suspense (#84). Two-Gun Kid has all issues as Pence copy but as a bi-monthly title you can see there may have been a missing issue had it been monthly So in instances like this, the books (e.g. ASM 42 and 43) just weren't sold in the UK or were they sold as regular U.S. cents issues? If not sold at all, that must have been a little hard on UK fans to miss two issues out of a book's continuity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KryptoSpidey Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 I'm not a Pence collector but THIS is definitely one interesting read. I love learning new information in a hobby that i've been involved in for 30+ years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmtg9 Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 7 hours ago, Sqeggs said: So in instances like this, the books (e.g. ASM 42 and 43) just weren't sold in the UK or were they sold as regular U.S. cents issues? If not sold at all, that must have been a little hard on UK fans to miss two issues out of a book's continuity. Well it's a long time since I had the collection but my dad definitely had them in his original collection bought at the time of release. Don't have them to check but my guess would be that they were stamped copies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted March 26, 2017 Author Share Posted March 26, 2017 7 hours ago, Sqeggs said: On 10/03/2017 at 10:40 AM, Marwood & I said: Almost every title which crosses the cover dates of October 1966 to December 1966 has a two issue Pence gap. This may explain why ASM Completists haven’t found #42 and #43 yet. They probably don’t exist. Ditto Avengers 33/34, Daredevil 21/22, Fantastic Four 56/57, Sgt Fury 35/36, Tales To Astonish 85/86. However, Strange Tales only misses one issue (#151) as does Tales of Suspense (#84). Two-Gun Kid has all issues as Pence copy but as a bi-monthly title you can see there may have been a missing issue had it been monthly So in instances like this, the books (e.g. ASM 42 and 43) just weren't sold in the UK or were they sold as regular U.S. cents issues? If not sold at all, that must have been a little hard on UK fans to miss two issues out of a book's continuity. The US copies were imported during the gaps so you got your comic in the end. I've added a scan of my old stamped copy of #42 below. Over here, you'll only ever see US cents copies or stamped US cents copies: Davidone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted March 26, 2017 Author Share Posted March 26, 2017 7 hours ago, kryptospidey said: I'm not a Pence collector but THIS is definitely one interesting read. I love learning new information in a hobby that i've been involved in for 30+ years. Thanks @kryptospidey I managed to get two issues on the 'missing' list this weekend - Kid Colt #91 and 96 (scans below) This means we now have 2,995 confirmed pence printed issues: I'm hoping the existence of the 91 means that 90 and 92-95 also exist, so will keep looking out for them. That would take us to a round 3,000 comics. Here's the updated 'missing' list: Dive in if you have a pence copy of any of these. Oh, and here are my two lovely Kids: Aren't they good looking kids! Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted March 26, 2017 Author Share Posted March 26, 2017 7 hours ago, kryptospidey said: I'm not a Pence collector but THIS is definitely one interesting read. I love learning new information in a hobby that i've been involved in for 30+ years. @kryptospidey, you might enjoy this thread too - it has a related 'UK' theme: KryptoSpidey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
