Robot Man Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 43 minutes ago, comicjack said: Shouldn't matter at all just that he draw some wicked art +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusterMark Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 People have often been divided into two camps over whether famous comic creators' personal lives and/or backgrounds have a "value" in "determining" their legacy and/or contributions, or whether they are relevant in some way or not. Some feel "No" and some feel "Yes". First other example that comes to mind is Siegel and Shuster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickie Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 5 hours ago, tabcom said: The results will be posted Friday. I have an estate auction of comics to attend Saturday morning. 1. Good luck! 2. Too bad you're going to miss the live "conference" here ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N e r V Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 35 minutes ago, MusterMark said: People have often been divided into two camps over whether famous comic creators' personal lives and/or backgrounds have a "value" in "determining" their legacy and/or contributions, or whether they are relevant in some way or not. Some feel "No" and some feel "Yes". First other example that comes to mind is Siegel and Shuster. If more information helps inform you of their work, fine. To the average person there always seem to be degrees of interest in the "famous" lives. My only request of posters in dealing with information such as Bakers sexual status which is unconfirmed or really anything which is unknown or in debate please present it as such and not a fact. Squeggs sited the author of the source (which I am aware of too) and why would he lie well you could make the same argument in reverse about Bakers brother in law or Ray and his wife which knew Baker well enough to ask him to be his best man. All we know is there are opposing views with opinions not facts. Its pretty easy to discredit something like when Jack Kirby claimed he really created Superman but the waters get murky if you think you can provide an answer as to why Jack Cole killed himself (theories abound there). Everyone here is entitled to their opinion but if facts are in doubt of that opinion I think it fair to let people know what you think is possible but not a fact. sacentaur, szucchini and 29dukedog 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricksneatstuff Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 8 hours ago, 29dukedog said: Now this guy would probably get arrested on sight, today... I would like to "arrest" that copy and take it into custody. szucchini 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BakerFanOne Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 8 hours ago, MusterMark said: People have often been divided into two camps over whether famous comic creators' personal lives and/or backgrounds have a "value" in "determining" their legacy and/or contributions, or whether they are relevant in some way or not. Some feel "No" and some feel "Yes". First other example that comes to mind is Siegel and Shuster. To me, Baker's race, ethnicity, and sexual preferences do not in any way impact my appreciation of his talent and the amazing artwork he produced. However, it definitely gives me more insight in understanding Matt Baker the person which likely had a major impact on his artwork. Whether it be a an important politician, artist, or historical figure, I always like understanding their background and life story and how it directly influenced their actions, their philosophies, and in many cases, their artistic output. MusterMark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zolnerowich Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Didn't want to miss out on this epic event! I just voted. Hopefully there won't be any gerrymandering with the ballots... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagii Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, Zolnerowich said: Didn't want to miss out on this epic event! I just voted. Hopefully there won't be any gerrymandering with the ballots... Hello....'RUSH- Sha'.......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickie Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 15 hours ago, 29dukedog said: Now this guy would probably get arrested on sight, today... Might be questionable from today's point of view, indeed. Does that guy's comment go along with the inside story (I'm not familiar with the book, pardon me)? I mean, what if Baker, for example, originally suggested: "I made up my mind. You're the one that I want." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickie Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Man, that cover is rich ... I'm no sociologist, but look at the three girls in action, one with black hair, a redhead, and the darling is blond ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabcom Posted September 29, 2017 Author Share Posted September 29, 2017 Will compile ranking today. Will post in reverse order #18 to #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29dukedog Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 14 minutes ago, tabcom said: Will compile ranking today. Will post in reverse order #18 to #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabcom Posted September 29, 2017 Author Share Posted September 29, 2017 #18 Phantom Lady 23 - 372 (total count) #17 JoJo 25 - 369 #16 Amazing Ghost Stories - 366 #15 Phantom Lady 16 - 361 #14 Going Steady 10 - 353 #13 Teen-Age Romances 14 - 352 #12 Phantom Lady 18 - 343 #11 Teen-Age Temptations 2 - 327 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontodesignguy Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29dukedog Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Tease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickie Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) Jo-Jo 25 second to last?! -- That's a Jo-Jo-Joke! (Nice vertical vignette at the left edge from Fox Feature alone is worth more, no?) Edited September 29, 2017 by Pickie really, now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29dukedog Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 9 minutes ago, Pickie said: Jo-Jo 25 second to last?! -- That's a Jo-Jo-Joke! (Nice vertical vignette at the left edge from Fox Feature alone is worth more, no?) I'm sure that's just a reflection of the debate over Baker's credit for the book. That would also explain PL 23 coming in last. I like that tabcom has given us the first 8 first. It's given me a chance to predict how the remaining 10 will rank. I'm going to PM my prediction to someone who will be able to verify it, in the event my predictions are right on the money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickie Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, 29dukedog said: I'm sure that's just a reflection of the debate over Baker's credit for the book. That would also explain PL 23 coming in last. Fully agreed ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricksneatstuff Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, 29dukedog said: I'm sure that's just a reflection of the debate over Baker's credit for the book. That would also explain PL 23 coming in last. I like that tabcom has given us the first 8 first. It's given me a chance to predict how the remaining 10 will rank. I'm going to PM my prediction to someone who will be able to verify it, in the event my predictions are right on the money... For me, Jo-Jo 25 and PL 23 are top 5 to 7 covers, Baker or no. Sorry, but I love both of them. I actually think Jo-Jo 25 is perhaps the greatest GGA bondage cover of all-time. I think the Baker threads are mostly visited by the romance aficianados as well explaining the low Phantom Lady 18 placement as well. Edited September 29, 2017 by Ricksneatstuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacentaur Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ricksneatstuff said: For me, Jo-Jo 25 and PL 23 are top 5 to 7 covers, Baker or no. Sorry, but I love both of them. I actually think Jo-Jo 25 is perhaps the greatest GGA bondage cover of all-time. I think the Baker threads are mostly visited by the romance aficianados as well explaining the low Phantom Lady 18 placement as well. But Rick, this is a poll about BAKER books - if questionable (and they certainly are), then that hurts the ranking in my view. I'm not a GGA guy per se, but Baker's romance covers (which we know are by Baker) are just better IMHO. TAR 14 at #13, ouch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
