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[Point Five]

On 1/16/2022 at 1:40 PM, lou_fine said:

 

Is that someone's supermarket list across the cover?

 

[Gotham Kid]

On 1/16/2022 at 9:30 PM, Point Five said:

Is that someone's supermarket list across the cover?

 

Only now did I take a look at the label and it says "Spiderman meets Wolverine"

Might as well have said "I just F up any chance you will ever have of selling this comic. Suck it."

Edited January 16, 2022 by Gotham Kid

[Flex Mentallo]

On 1/16/2022 at 9:39 PM, Gotham Kid said:

"I just F up any chance you will ever have of selling this comic. Suck it."

 

[nearmint]

On 1/15/2022 at 5:54 PM, Pantodude said:

Any thoughts on the Batman #18 5.5 W which sold for $5040 today?  Good?  Strong?  Something else?    

https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/superhero/batman-18-dc-1943-cgc-fn-55-white-pages/a/7266-97077.s?ic2=mytracked-lotspage-lotlinks-12202013&tab=MyTrackedLots-101116

 

Presents amazingly well for a 5.5, and the Promise 7.0 did sell for $8700 just a few months ago.

Edited January 16, 2022 by nearmint

[nearmint]

On 1/14/2022 at 2:58 PM, lou_fine said:

After seeing this result here, it makes me wonder if Halperin has the fingers on both of his hands working overtime on this book here:  

https://comics.ha.com/itm/modern-age-1980-present-/superhero/daredevil-168-marvel-1981-cgc-nm-mt-98-white-pages/a/7266-95130.s

To each their own, but why in the world would anybody in their right or wrong mind pay $13,200 for this book when there's already a total of 260 copies slabbed to date in this equivalent CGC highest grade.  Especially since this is a relatively common as dirt book in grade as it was pretty much hoarded by all of the collectors back in the day when it first came out. 

Any bets that there's going to be a ton of copies of this book being sent into CGC for grading after this result, which will go a long way to stuffing their coffers to overflowing.  Which reminds me that I really really do need to get around to fnding my copies so that I can send in at least a couple of them to get the fresh looking inks squished squashed right out of the pages before they get moved over to the next room for grading.      

Newsstand copy fever run amok?

[lou_fine]

On 1/16/2022 at 3:13 PM, nearmint said:

Newsstand copy fever run amok?

Was there a difference back then in the early 80's as I believe all of my copies have the same UPC barcode in that box?    

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

I thought this Cap 3 would go for more.  Someone tried to erase something off the back cover;  first with steel wool, then with an eraser.  Still, I thought it would bring more

 

https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/superhero/captain-america-comics-3-timely-1941-cgc-vg-45-cream-to-off-white-pages/a/7266-95025.s?type=bidnotice-tracked-endofauction

[batman_fan]

On 1/15/2022 at 6:54 PM, Pantodude said:

I was wondering about the Batman #49, too.   I thought the 8.5 result was due in part to rumors that Mad Hatter might make his movie debut in the Pattinson flick, but then what happened here?  Sometimes it just depends on who shows up to auction. 

Any thoughts on the Batman #18 5.5 W which sold for $5040 today?  Good?  Strong?  Something else?    

https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/superhero/batman-18-dc-1943-cgc-fn-55-white-pages/a/7266-97077.s?ic2=mytracked-lotspage-lotlinks-12202013&tab=MyTrackedLots-101116

 

That was a pretty strong price, not crazy high but decently high.  I paid $6,680.35 for an 8.0 copy back in 2021.

[batman_fan]

On 1/16/2022 at 5:42 AM, Larryw7 said:

Maybe I'll actually be able to afford one again.

I was a little surprised at the hammer on this one.

[nearmint]

On 1/16/2022 at 3:53 PM, lou_fine said:

Was there a difference back then in the early 80's as I believe all of my copies have the same UPC barcode in that box?    

The direct sales copies have a Spider-Man head in the UPC box, and the price/issue number box at top left is a different shape…

Edited January 17, 2022 by nearmint

[lou_fine]

On 1/16/2022 at 7:41 PM, nearmint said:

The direct sales copies have a Spider-Man head in the UPC box, and the price/issue number box at top left is a different shape…

Totally aware of the difference in the UPC boxes and pricing boxes between the Direct and Newsstand copies.  

The question which I am unsure about is wasn't the time period of the early 80's just when the Direct distribution system was starting out and not as well developed and in place as later on in the decade.  As a result, weren't some of the LCS's, depending upon your region, still receiving Newsstand copies or some combination of both in their shipment of comics?    

Need to check, but I am quite sure that I do have some Newsstand copies of this DD 168 in my collection, even though I clearly remember cherry picking and buying every single one of my copies from a few of the LCS's in my area at the time.  

BTW:  Based upon this rather "jump the shark" latest Heritage result on the DD 168 if it holds up, it looks like you are going to make good bank on your copies here.      

Edited January 17, 2022 by lou_fine

[nearmint]

On 1/16/2022 at 8:25 PM, lou_fine said:

Totally aware of the difference in the UPC boxes and pricing boxes between the Direct and Newsstand copies.  

The question which I am unsure about is wasn't the time period of the early 80's just when the Direct distribution system was starting out and not as well developed and in place as later on in the decade.  As a result, weren't some of the LCS's, depending upon your region, still receiving Newsstand copies or some combination of both in their shipment of comics?    

Need to check, but I am quite sure that I do have some Newsstand copies of this DD 168 in my collection, even though I clearly remember cherry picking and buying every single one of my copies from a few of the LCS's in my area at the time.  

BTW:  Based upon this rather "jump the shark" latest Heritage result on the DD 168 if it holds up, it looks like you are going to make good bank on your copies here.      

Lol, not my copies.  Just grabbed for comparison.  

[lou_fine]

On 1/16/2022 at 4:12 PM, GreatCaesarsGhost said:

I thought this Cap 3 would go for more.  Someone tried to erase something off the back cover;  first with steel wool, then with an eraser.  Still, I thought it would bring more

https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/superhero/captain-america-comics-3-timely-1941-cgc-vg-45-cream-to-off-white-pages/a/7266-95025.s?type=bidnotice-tracked-endofauction

Although I thought this copy here might have had a chance at hitting the $40K price point, at least it gave it a good shot coming in at $38,400.  

Definitely fared a lot better than the so-called Eldon pedigree CGC 7.0 graded copy which manged to hit only $52,800 back in 2020 or less than 4X condition guide, whereas this non-ped copy here at least managed to just squeaked by north of 6X condition guide.  I am always of the mind set that comic book valuations tend to move in cycles, and as such, the first GA books out of the gate were the pre-Robin 'Tec books about 5 years ago which was then followed closely behind by the early Supes cover Action's like Action 13, early Archie's like Jackpot 4 and even the classic cover Archie 50, and also the early Cap's like All-Select 1 and Cap 3.  

With the big head start and the rather blistering pace that those "first out of the gate" GA books took a few years ago, the acceleration for all of these early risers seem to slowed down during the past couple of years since the start of Covid as other sectors within the GA marketplace started to do their big catchup.  If you look at Cap 3 for example, for awhile there (similar to Action 13), even mid-grade restored copies were selling for multiples of condition guide and into the $20K price range.  So, hopefully this most recent sale at $38,400 is signalling that Cap 3 is back on track and about to pick up their pace again, as compared to the past 2 years.  

Edited January 17, 2022 by lou_fine

[lou_fine]

On 1/16/2022 at 4:31 PM, batman_fan said:

On 1/16/2022 at 4:42 AM, Larryw7 said:

Maybe I'll actually be able to afford one again.

I was a little surprised at the hammer on this one.

From my personal point of view, far too many copies of this book in far too short of a time.  

Heck, without even taking a look at CL or the CC archives, it looks like Heritage on its own has auctioned off a whopping total of 16 copies of this book within just the past 2 years. 

Eventually, the number of buyers that's willing to continue to bid top dollars for this book is going to keep dwindling down over such a short time period. 

Edited January 17, 2022 by lou_fine

[tth2]

On 1/17/2022 at 2:34 PM, lou_fine said:

Eventually, the number of buyers that's willing to continue to bid top dollars for this book is going to keep dwindling down over such a short time period. 

That's what they said about TMNT 1, Hulk 181, etc.

[lou_fine]

On 1/17/2022 at 12:54 AM, tth2 said:

That's what they said about TMNT 1, Hulk 181, etc.

Yes, but these are much more recent books with a much larger pool of buyers out there including speculators who love to flip these books as you always tend to see multiple copies available in every single auction.  

Not so much for the GA books like Batman 49 which you pretty much don't see more than a handful come to market every year, let alone 16 copies from just one auction house in a short 2-year time period.  

[buttock]

On 1/17/2022 at 2:03 AM, lou_fine said:

Yes, but these are much more recent books with a much larger pool of buyers out there including speculators who love to flip these books as you always tend to see multiple copies available in every single auction.  

Not so much for the GA books like Batman 49 which you pretty much don't see more than a handful come to market every year, let alone 16 copies from just one auction house in a short 2-year time period.  

I was scrolling through my watched list on HA, 75 or so items.  I think the most watchers any of them had was 134 and the most bidders was 24.  I have nothing to compare that to, but I'd be curious to know how this translates to the the number of collectors out there.  OA seems to have many more trackers than comics, I assume because there's not GPA/GoCollect, etc., for art.  

[woowoo]

I was looking at what is left found this at $22 but says 51 with BP how can the BP be more than the book ? 

King Comics #48 (David McKay Publications, 1940) CGC FN 6.0 Cream | Lot #15548 | Heritage Auctions (ha.com)

Edited January 17, 2022 by woowoo

[Tsp99]

On 1/17/2022 at 11:56 AM, woowoo said:

I was looking at what is left found this at $22 but says 51 with BP how can the BP be more than the book ? 

King Comics #48 (David McKay Publications, 1940) CGC FN 6.0 Cream | Lot #15548 | Heritage Auctions (ha.com)

The minimum Heritage BP is currently $29 is my understanding.

[lou_fine]

On 1/15/2022 at 9:16 PM, lou_fine said:

With these kinds of results on some of his Famous Funnies covers, it makes me wonder what kind of prices we could see if copies of either FF 213 or FF214 in nice grade comes up for auction, especially since I consider those two covers to be the high water mark of his Famous Funnies run and a run which even he himself said:      

"All I know is that I was very pleased with those Famous Funnies covers; they are me at my very best."

Never mind as it look like I got the answer to my above question right here:  

https://www.ebay.com/itm/324596257762?hash=item4b9371d3e2:g:ZrkAAOSwG8dgofbf

 

Love the high res quality of the photo here, especially since he's asking a piddly $105K for this copy of Famous Funnies 214 here.