gadzukes Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Ken Aldred said: Ben Grimm looks appalling there. Difficult even to make out his arm, hidden inside a pile of rubble. Is Ben crying? Is that a tear I see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryw7 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 7 hours ago, Ken Aldred said: FF was a complete misfire. His Silver Surfer was okay, and I really liked his Green Lantern run. Englehart collaborated with Marshall Rogers and Terry Austin for a spectacular run on Batman in Detective Comics in the seventies, and he also wrote the Captain America run about the return of the psychopath Captain America from the 1950's. That FF.arc looks like the nadir of his career. Ken Aldred, Juno Beach and D84 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Aldred Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Larryw7 said: Englehart collaborated with Marshall Rogers and Terry Austin for a spectacular run on Batman in Detective Comics in the seventies, and he also wrote the Captain America run about the return of the psychopath Captain America from the 1950's. That FF.arc looks like the nadir of his career. I agree. What I focused on were the good stories he did that I recall were very close, time-wise, to the Copper Age FF run; Green Lantern, Silver Surfer. Trying to emphasise that, despite it being an absolutely terrible drop-off, the decline wasn’t necessarily an indication of burnout. Edited July 2, 2021 by Ken Aldred Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Aldred Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 4 hours ago, gadzukes said: Is Ben crying? Is that a tear I see? It’s hard not to feel pity for that cover. kav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drummy Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 5 hours ago, Ken Aldred said: It’s hard not to feel pity for that cover. For me it's revulsion....YMMV! kav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 The actual Thing design was by Keith Pollard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Aldred Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Mecha_Fantastic said: The actual Thing design was by Keith Pollard. Yup. Which is sad to me, because I’ve always thought of him as a very under appreciated artist. His Bronze Age Thor work is great. Neither Englehart or Pollard’s best work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 4 hours ago, Ken Aldred said: Yup. Which is sad to me, because I’ve always thought of him as a very under appreciated artist. His Bronze Age Thor work is great. Neither Englehart or Pollard’s best work. He did say in hindsight he would have changed the design...... but only because he didn't realise at the time he'd be drawing it so much (he didn't realise it'd be around for 20 issues of his). Had he known, he'd had gone with something simpler and more streamlined, less complex, simply to make his job easier. No mention at all about the eye-bleeding awfulness of the design they went with. Ken Aldred, kav and gadzukes 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted July 7, 2021 Author Share Posted July 7, 2021 On 7/6/2021 at 5:18 AM, Amazeron said: painful to watch when comic book writers try to tug on heartstrings in amateurish and heavy handed fashion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greggy Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, kav said: painful to watch when comic book writers try to tug on heartstrings in amateurish and heavy handed fashion. That's what she said. Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted July 7, 2021 Author Share Posted July 7, 2021 Just now, greggy said: That's what she said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 On 7/2/2021 at 3:03 AM, gadzukes said: Is Ben crying? Is that a tear I see? Yes. She's standing on his foot. Cat and gadzukes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 Enjoy some 'art'. Juno Beach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadzukes Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 32 minutes ago, Mecha_Fantastic said: Enjoy some 'art'. I wouldn't even pay $1 for the original art page to this. So much wrong with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 38 minutes ago, Mecha_Fantastic said: Enjoy some 'art'. Certainly. Just as soon as you post some. Legion of Goom, Cat, Ken Aldred and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted July 7, 2021 Author Share Posted July 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Mecha_Fantastic said: Enjoy some 'art'. gadzukes and Larryw7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 Artist: Herb Trimpe. kav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted July 7, 2021 Author Share Posted July 7, 2021 These panels just make me SMH about the people that get hired to write and draw some comics. Utter buffoons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Aldred Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mecha_Fantastic said: Artist: Herb Trimpe. Tripe, more like. So 90s. Even the golden rule about not showing feet has been broken. Edited July 7, 2021 by Ken Aldred kav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 15 minutes ago, Ken Aldred said: Tripe, more like. So 90s. Even the golden rule about not showing feet has been broken. It's a shame Ziggy Stardust, sorry, Mr Fantastic, hasn't got just a touch wider neck isn't it. Another two foot and we might not be able to see the ugly cow behind him. "I told you to leave my make up alone" she's saying "You look like a right tosser" "Sorry dragon face" he's replying "I was trying to detract attention from my massive Hulk neck" Ken Aldred, kav and Larryw7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
