Tri-Color Brian Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 On 6/10/2022 at 11:16 PM, LDarkseid1 said: No I don’t, but yeah I’ve seen those. Just a little lower grade than I’d like. I try to stick in the 5.0-6.0 and above range. So don’t mind holding out. Mine's real high grade. I don't even know where I got, but I'm sure I didn't pay for it... Dave2739 and hchill25 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 On 6/10/2022 at 11:25 PM, Tri-ColorBrian said: Mine's real high grade. I don't even know where I got, but I'm sure I didn't pay for it... At least a 9.8 Tri-Color Brian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBedrock Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 On 6/11/2022 at 12:18 AM, LDarkseid1 said: Just got my #24 and #25 back. Would love to have found nicer copies, but super happy to just have them. It’s honestly tough enough finding a bunch of the Captain Comet issues, and forget about in mid grade. Mainly they’re beat up! I still need a nice 24. LDarkseid1 and Dave2739 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-Color Brian Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 On 6/10/2022 at 11:28 PM, MrBedrock said: I still need a nice 24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-Color Brian Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 I found the nice #50 with the "P" on the cover...it's on ebay. I don't know if the seller is a boardie or not... https://www.ebay.com/itm/224515260573?hash=item344627009d:g:lbgAAOSwM-xg22Rb LDarkseid1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) I decided to crunch the numbers. Here's all the census numbers from issue 20-100 and the highest graded copy or copies. Pretty sure @zzutak has most of the highest graded copies haha. Edited June 11, 2022 by LDarkseid1 OtherEric 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Oops, wouldn't get them all in one shot. Here's the remaining. OtherEric 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-Color Brian Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Interesting. Looks like the two most popular on the list (50 and 79) also have the highest numbers of graded copies. Sounds like a pre-sales technique to me...while the truly scarce issues have low submission numbers (23=11, 25=10, 54=13, and 67=4), along with the issues nobody wants, although I don't understand why 51 and 52 have such low numbers. Those are pretty popular covers, and not as scarce as some of the others... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzutak Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 On 6/11/2022 at 12:06 AM, LDarkseid1 said: Here's all the census numbers from issue 20-100. Interesting. Here's the cumulative data for all issues with a cover date prior to 1960 (ie, issues #1-108). Only 1500 CGC-certified copies (in total), and only 5% with grades higher than CGC 9.0 NM-. Not overly surprising, considering that Strange Adventures is non-superhero title, and that nearly all post #10 issues have a guide value less than about $200 in VF. There are almost certainly more high grade specimens out there. Nearly all of my comics (regardless of title) were purchased raw -- most, well before CGC was founded. My target grade (and personal sweet spot) was actually 7.0 FN/VF -- fresh specimens with just enough defects to render them inexpensive. I began having my SA run certified in 2016 (with 109 submissions from the 10-cent era). The idea was to make it easier for my heirs to liquidate my holdings, in the event I unexpectedly went to that used bookstore in the sky. Fortunately, my personal grading standards are a bit more strict than CGC's. Tri-Color Brian, Kevin.J and LDarkseid1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-Color Brian Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 On 6/11/2022 at 3:28 AM, zzutak said: Interesting. Here's the cumulative data for all issues with a cover date prior to 1960 (ie, issues #1-108). Only 1500 CGC-certified copies (in total), and only 5% with grades higher than CGC 9.0 NM-. Not overly surprising, considering that Strange Adventures is non-superhero title, and that nearly all post #10 issues have a guide value less than about $200 in VF. There are almost certainly more high grade specimens out there. Nearly all of my comics (regardless of title) were purchased raw -- most, well before CGC was founded. My target grade (and personal sweet spot) was actually 7.0 FN/VF -- fresh specimens with just enough defects to render them inexpensive. I began having my SA run certified in 2016 (with 109 submissions from the 10-cent era). The idea was to make it easier for my heirs to liquidate my holdings, in the event I unexpectedly went to that used bookstore in the sky. Fortunately, my personal grading standards are a bit more strict than CGC's. Any opinion as to why #51 and 52 have so few graded copies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzutak Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Hey, Brian. I regard issue #52 as one of the "generic" issues with only average collector appeal. There was a time when issues #52 and #80 (the wash-tone "space poker" cover by Gil Kane) were mildly hot. This transient "flavor-of-the-month" hotness brought a ton of copies out of the woodwork. Market values (and therefore CGC submissions) dropped once supply exceeded demand and it became clear that neither issue is rare. Issue #51 is a bit different. It is one of the scarcer issues (similar in quantity to issue #21, the Murphy Anderson "Monster that Fished for Men" cover). However, the multiple folks are willing to pay for issues #21 and #51 are way less than those associated with issues #50, 54, and 79. CGC Census counts are a much greater reflection of value than scarcity. Just compare the census data for ASM #300 with the data for ASM #295-297 and/or #302-305: Tri-Color Brian and LDarkseid1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) On 6/11/2022 at 3:28 AM, zzutak said: Interesting. Here's the cumulative data for all issues with a cover date prior to 1960 (ie, issues #1-108). Only 1500 CGC-certified copies (in total), and only 5% with grades higher than CGC 9.0 NM-. Not overly surprising, considering that Strange Adventures is non-superhero title, and that nearly all post #10 issues have a guide value less than about $200 in VF. There are almost certainly more high grade specimens out there. Nearly all of my comics (regardless of title) were purchased raw -- most, well before CGC was founded. My target grade (and personal sweet spot) was actually 7.0 FN/VF -- fresh specimens with just enough defects to render them inexpensive. I began having my SA run certified in 2016 (with 109 submissions from the 10-cent era). The idea was to make it easier for my heirs to liquidate my holdings, in the event I unexpectedly went to that used bookstore in the sky. Fortunately, my personal grading standards are a bit more strict than CGC's. I don’t understand why more copies of issue #9 in high grade don’t ever come to market, no reserve auction. I mean I know there’s only 8 from 9.0-9.6, but still. Last ones I could find were a 9.6 and 9.4 on Heritage in 2007 and a 9.0 on Comicconnect in 2015. That’s the one I want to upgrade the most to be in your grade range, but it’s nearly impossible. Someone had a 9.4 listed on the comiclink exchange for a little while and I made a strong offer, was close to getting it and they pulled it out of the blue. Not sure if he sold it or had sellers remorse, but that’s the closest I’ve come. My 8.0 was a CBCS 8.5 I made a random offer to someone who bought it many years ago on Comicconnect and was just willing to sell. Was hoping it would come back a 9.0 after a pressing, and came back an 8.0 🤣. Regardless, people definitely seem to hold onto their 1st appearances of good old Captain Comet. The nicest copy I’ve seen sell in no reserve auction was an 8.0 a couple years ago or so. Edited June 11, 2022 by LDarkseid1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzutak Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 You're right about the paucity of high-grade SA #9 offerings. There are 2x~4x as many CGC-certified copies of issue #9 than of any of the surrounding issues, and I believe that can be attributed to issue #9's much higher guide/market value. However, as the table below shows, none of the early issue numbers are plentiful in grades above 9.0 VF/NM (and most of the high-grade copies that do exist came out of pedigreed collections and are now held in a permanent collections). Atomic Age DC sci-fi (Mystery In Space, Strange Adventures, and early Tales of the Unexpected) is definitely not "prime" flipping material. LDarkseid1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttock Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 On 6/11/2022 at 12:22 AM, Tri-ColorBrian said: Let's make fun of ebay dealers...check out this "VF"...and it's not a Golden Age book, but they listed it as one... https://www.ebay.com/itm/225017150184?hash=item3464113ae8:g:yQMAAOSw0PBiJ4bv VF = Very Faded LDarkseid1 and Tri-Color Brian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zzutak Posted June 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2022 And here's what that issue looked like on the rack LDarkseid1, buttock, Tri-Color Brian and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) On 6/11/2022 at 8:35 AM, buttock said: VF = Very Faded There’s a handful of Strange Adventures issues on the bay that I wish were graded accurately per the grade given by the seller. If they were they’d be bought by now. But boy oh boy people over grade 🤦♂️ Edited June 11, 2022 by LDarkseid1 Tri-Color Brian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 On 6/11/2022 at 9:04 AM, zzutak said: And here's what that issue looked like on the rack Such an awesome cover! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 On 6/11/2022 at 8:21 AM, zzutak said: You're right about the paucity of high-grade SA #9 offerings. There are 2x~4x as many CGC-certified copies of issue #9 than of any of the surrounding issues, and I believe that can be attributed to issue #9's much higher guide/market value. However, as the table below shows, none of the early issue numbers are plentiful in grades above 9.0 VF/NM (and most of the high-grade copies that do exist came out of pedigreed collections and are now held in a permanent collections). Atomic Age DC sci-fi (Mystery In Space, Strange Adventures, and early Tales of the Unexpected) is definitely not "prime" flipping material. No I guess not “prime” for flipping indeed lol. It seems like golden age pre code horror and early sci-fi and crime is getting more and more love these days. So maybe these series are due 🤷♂️. Anyway, yeah I’ll just hold out for a nice copy of #9 and be patient lol. My only choice since as you said collectors seem to be holding for the long haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBedrock Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 On 6/11/2022 at 7:43 AM, zzutak said: I regard issue #52 as one of the "generic" issues with only average collector appeal. hchill25, LDarkseid1 and Tri-Color Brian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) Ok, managed to snag a high grade copy of issue #34. Been waffling on buying it for a while but finally just did it. With the top an 8.5, think I may have a new highest graded copy on the census coming. Edited June 11, 2022 by LDarkseid1 Tri-Color Brian, JohnH19, OtherEric and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
