buttock Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 On 6/11/2022 at 11:22 AM, MrBedrock said: You are very average. Tri-Color Brian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-Color Brian Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) On 6/11/2022 at 5:43 AM, zzutak said: Hey, Brian. I regard issue #52 as one of the "generic" issues with only average collector appeal. There was a time when issues #52 and #80 (the wash-tone "space poker" cover by Gil Kane) were mildly hot. This transient "flavor-of-the-month" hotness brought a ton of copies out of the woodwork. Market values (and therefore CGC submissions) dropped once supply exceeded demand and it became clear that neither issue is rare. Issue #51 is a bit different. It is one of the scarcer issues (similar in quantity to issue #21, the Murphy Anderson "Monster that Fished for Men" cover). However, the multiple folks are willing to pay for issues #21 and #51 are way less than those associated with issues #50, 54, and 79. CGC Census counts are a much greater reflection of value than scarcity. Just compare the census data for ASM #300 with the data for ASM #295-297 and/or #302-305: I'm going to have to disagree on #52. I may not be the average collector, but that book is in my top 8 favorite SA covers, which would be 9, 21, 23, 50, 51, 52, 79, and 110, and a 9th fav would be 56. I think #54 has much less appeal as far as the cover goes, but the scarcity of it makes it desirable to me. Edited June 11, 2022 by Tri-ColorBrian OtherEric and LDarkseid1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnH19 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 On 6/11/2022 at 5:45 PM, Tri-ColorBrian said: I'm going to have to disagree on #52. I may not be the average collector, but that book is in my top 8 favorite SA covers, which would be 9, 21, 23, 50, 51, 52, 79, and 110, and a 9th fav would be 56. I think #54 has much less appeal as far as the cover goes, but the scarcity of it makes it desirable to me. I agree with you. I think that’s a great cover. Tri-Color Brian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzutak Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Issue #52 definitely has an eye-catching cover. Heck, I like hot pink as much as the next guy. But your original question was why do issues #51 and 52 have so few graded copies, and I will stand by my previous assertion that the number of CGC submissions (and certifications) is primarily driven by value as opposed to scarcity. Buyers are willing to pony up big bucks for issues #50 (the Murphy Anderson robot cover) and #79 (the crazy Gil Kane alien snowmen cover), so more of those issues will be submitted to CGC. And, when you examine the census data shown below, you'll see that the difference in census count is really due to differences in the sub-6.0 range (where there are only 2 slabbed copies of issue #52, but 18 copies and 19 copies of issues #50 and #79, respectively). To repeat, the number of CGC submissions (and certifications) is primarily driven by value as opposed to scarcity. LDarkseid1 and Tri-Color Brian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post buttock Posted June 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2022 A handful of slabbed copies I've picked up over the years. jimjum12, OtherEric, Tri-Color Brian and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzutak Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 (edited) On 6/12/2022 at 7:19 AM, buttock said: A handful of slabbed copies I've picked up over the years. Can upgrade the #12 and #110 in an upcoming Heritage auction. And yeah awesome stuff! Also the #143 always reminds me of Carrot Top 🤣 Edited June 12, 2022 by LDarkseid1 Tri-Color Brian and buttock 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 For any of you low grade lovers out there, some great/scarce issues ending on eBay shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBedrock Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 On 6/12/2022 at 9:19 AM, buttock said: A handful ... buttock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 On 6/11/2022 at 3:45 PM, Tri-ColorBrian said: I'm going to have to disagree on #52. I may not be the average collector, but that book is in my top 8 favorite SA covers, which would be 9, 21, 23, 50, 51, 52, 79, and 110, and a 9th fav would be 56. I think #54 has much less appeal as far as the cover goes, but the scarcity of it makes it desirable to me. Surprised no one ever talks about issue #94. I freaking love that cover!!! hchill25, Tri-Color Brian and OtherEric 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-Color Brian Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) On 6/12/2022 at 8:51 PM, LDarkseid1 said: Surprised no one ever talks about issue #94. I freaking love that cover!!! Me too...but only in lower grade...(slightly lower than yours). The problem with this cover is that it's so unbelievable, as opposed to all the others... Edited June 13, 2022 by Tri-ColorBrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-Color Brian Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 On 6/12/2022 at 7:19 AM, buttock said: A handful of slabbed copies I've picked up over the years. You must be Bedrock's brother... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 On 6/12/2022 at 11:00 PM, Tri-ColorBrian said: Me too...but only in lower grade...(slightly lower than yours). The problem with this cover is that it's so unbelievable, as opposed to all the others... No no, not my copy. Just found one online as an example. I tried winning a really nice one on eBay a year or so ago, but went for more than I wanted to spend. Tri-Color Brian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-Color Brian Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 On 6/12/2022 at 10:07 AM, LDarkseid1 said: For any of you low grade lovers out there, some great/scarce issues ending on eBay shortly. I can't believe the #75 went for $160...or the #55 for $72. Must be the ape covers. Some of the others were good deals though, like the #68... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-Color Brian Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Hardly anyone ever posts this cover. It used to always be pictured in the guide... OtherEric, hchill25 and ThothAmon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 On 6/13/2022 at 12:38 AM, Tri-ColorBrian said: I can't believe the #75 went for $160...or the #55 for $72. Must be the ape covers. Some of the others were good deals though, like the #68... Yeah collectors seem to love those gorilla covers. Tri-Color Brian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttock Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 On 6/13/2022 at 12:01 AM, Tri-ColorBrian said: You must be Bedrock's brother... Son, and I got my looks from my mother. Tri-Color Brian and LDarkseid1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zzutak Posted June 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) Did somebody say gorilla covers? Apparently, gorillas sold books, so Julius Schwartz loved 'em. Indeed, you'll find 'em on the covers of just about every DC title. My personal faves are issues #64 and 69. Edited June 13, 2022 by zzutak LDarkseid1, OtherEric, buttock and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 On 6/13/2022 at 8:01 AM, zzutak said: Did somebody say gorilla covers? Apparently, gorillas sold books, so Julius Schwartz loved 'em. Indeed, you'll find 'em on the covers of just about every DC title. My personal faves are issues #64 and 69. I sold my #64 CGC 8.5 on C-Link and it certainly went for a pretty penny. I'd say also my favorite two issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pickycollector Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 On 6/13/2022 at 12:18 PM, The Bomber said: My favorite. I agree. I sold mine a few years ago in the Forum OtherEric 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
