thethedew Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 8/5/2020 at 1:02 AM, thethedew said: I have one of those, too: GRIMJACK: OUTLAW IN HELL miniseries. Never got close to print, but some of the covers got made:https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1647719 Correction: I now have two out of the three covers for the series. Am officially on the LOOKOUT for the last one!https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1815572 BuraddoRun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmaeditor Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 I have a few unpublished pieces in my collection. 1st is a splash page from Brett Booth's Future Flash run. It's right after the Future Flash and Current Barry battle. There's a big explosion and all that's left is the Future flash and the Speed Force rupture that had been the cause of his waning powers is healed. Brett redrew this page after not liking his first attempt. It was never inked, just pencils only. Flash vol. 4 #5 page 18 Unpublished. The Published version. Next is the unpublished cover for Five Ghosts #8. This was used in the Previews Solicitations. The last is a Cully Hamner page from Punisher vol. 7 #7 page13 . Apparently Cully drew the whole issue, but for some reason got replaced by Leandro Fernandez. Publisher version by Leandro Fernandez. MagnusX and BuraddoRun 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAY1979 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 A decade and a half back there was a conversation on the old comicart-l board in which it was overwhelmingly determined that unpublished cover is an oxymoron. Rick2you2, J.Sid and grapeape 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry E. Gibbs Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 As covers are often produced in advance to the book so that they can be used in solicitations, you can get some very interesting stories about why they then had to be changed. An insight into writers and editors and the who production process. BuraddoRun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobrac Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 Here is how the Donnellys AKA Coollines feel about unpublished art...make it appear to be published and try and sell it for an obnoxious amount.... For instance, this Michael Bair Alpha Flight/Wolverine piece was traded to them as unpublished. The Donnellys then added fake stats and word balloons from the real title page to Alpha Flight #87 to give it the appearance of a published piece... https://www.comicartfans.com/ForSaleDetails.asp?ArtId=7719402&fbclid=IwAR24pnTZoqLLV_DuzFdifNrYwfiCErcv2ylm8CzZaBtJcVmv2IegOc6q-48 Ecclectica, Twanj and cloud cloddie 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 On 8/11/2020 at 2:09 PM, BookofStrange said: I have another late entry. I got the news (Aug 5) that Doctor Strange Surgeon Supreme was cancelled with issue 6. I bought the cover a couple of months ago so now I have an unpublished cover. Doctor Strange Surgeon Supreme #7 cover Artist: Max Fiumara (All) No love in there for the Buckingham costume? Shame that no one will draw it, mostly due to the complexity. Another great addition! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShellyM46 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 On 5/6/2022 at 12:58 PM, MAR1979 said: A decade and a half back there was a conversation on the old comicart-l board in which it was overwhelmingly determined that unpublished cover is an oxymoron. as opposed to unpublished "piece"? Seems like a game of semantics, as long as the word that prefaces is unpublished what does it matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAY1979 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) On 5/10/2022 at 1:16 PM, ShellyM46 said: as opposed to unpublished "piece"? Seems like a game of semantics, as long as the word that prefaces is unpublished what does it matter. In the context of that comicart-l thread it was that "Cover" was begin used to hype a way to increase the cost of the item. Yep, Nowadays it does not matter as sellers make up whatever copy they want Los Bros style, as long as off eBay, without recriminations. I do wish I had an archive of some of those comicart-l topics there were some fun reads there. Due to the lower dollars amounts involved on art the board skewed towards more fun than this one in the now. Edited May 10, 2022 by MAR1979 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyNameIsLegion Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 On 5/10/2022 at 12:34 PM, MAR1979 said: I do wish I had an archive of some of those comicart-l topics there were some fun reads there. Due to the lower dollars amounts involved on art the board skewed towards more fun than this one in the now. you mean like this? https://www.comicartfans.com/forums/comic_art_collecting/comicart_l granted, it's not really searchable. But there it is. MAY1979 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 On 5/10/2022 at 1:16 PM, ShellyM46 said: as opposed to unpublished "piece"? Seems like a game of semantics, as long as the word that prefaces is unpublished what does it matter. then maybe put "commission" after unpublished and see how yucky that is? It matters, I agree. MAY1979 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAY1979 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) On 5/13/2022 at 6:30 AM, MyNameIsLegion said: you mean like this? https://www.comicartfans.com/forums/comic_art_collecting/comicart_l granted, it's not really searchable. But there it is. Thanks! Now i can revisit Mankuta's inane musings from turn o' the century Edited May 13, 2022 by MAR1979 vodou and MyNameIsLegion 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUECHIPCOLLECTIBLES Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) On 5/13/2022 at 4:38 AM, Bird said: then maybe put "commission" after unpublished and see how yucky that is? It matters, I agree. If it WAS a commission it should say "commission" but if it was unambiguously created BEFORE the published book and was intended to be the cover then it's a vintage piece which, to me, is close to being as good as having the OG published cover, but at a very steep discount Edited May 13, 2022 by BLUECHIPCOLLECTIBLES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Hartz Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 I enjoy seeing unpublished pieces. I have a few in my collection. Mike Wieringo FF page Mike McKone Punisher page BuraddoRun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick2you2 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Publication only affects price, not quality. If you love the art, who cares? If you buy as an investment, you will probably get a lower rate of return than published OA, but it was probably cheaper to buy, too. BuraddoRun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babsrocks31 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 I find them very interesting, but I do think they ought to cost slightly less than a similar published version. Every once in a while I'll see someone sort of sneakily selling an unpublished piece as if it's from the published issue, trying to rake in the $$$. I don't dig that. But unpublished pages are unique in their own right, and if they are a tad cheaper then they can be a fun part of any collection. As for sketches and designs that are done by the artist of a series to actually practice and flesh out his take on the character... I think those are also super interesting, if less valuable BuraddoRun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...