pubmonkey Posted April 14, 2021 Author Share Posted April 14, 2021 25 minutes ago, valiantman said: Combining the details of this particular book with the current practices in the industry... A CGC 9.8 blue label TMNT #3 variant with signatures inside has all the "signs" pointing to an original copy that was obtained at the 1985 convention and somehow kept pristine during the convention and the 35+ years that followed. A CGC 9.8 yellow label TMNT #3 variant with signatures on the cover has all the "signs" pointing to a copy that has been recently "maximized" (signature added to the cover decades after printing, CGC witness verified, no doubt pressed before CGC grading), etc., and for lack of a better word the book "reeks" of seller cash-grab. They're both awesome books, but TMNT #3 variant represents a very special, very early day in the history of TMNT. The closer you can get to that day and the preservation of that day, the better. Yellow labels blur the "special day" in history with another day... a random day... decades later... when the book was scribbled on by that original creator --- now a famous millionaire, not the same kid who made a comic --- and presented for "maximum profit" to CGC for certification before coming to market. If these books were $5, who cares... but they're 5-figure books... and collectors tend to get "serious" when the prices get that high. very well said! The exception to this might be if the yellow label was signed by both Laird and Eastman. It's fairly common to find an Eastman sig but rare and expensive for a Laird one. DPV and I am not Glenda 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valiantman Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, pubmonkey said: 32 minutes ago, valiantman said: Combining the details of this particular book with the current practices in the industry... A CGC 9.8 blue label TMNT #3 variant with signatures inside has all the "signs" pointing to an original copy that was obtained at the 1985 convention and somehow kept pristine during the convention and the 35+ years that followed. A CGC 9.8 yellow label TMNT #3 variant with signatures on the cover has all the "signs" pointing to a copy that has been recently "maximized" (signature added to the cover decades after printing, CGC witness verified, no doubt pressed before CGC grading), etc., and for lack of a better word the book "reeks" of seller cash-grab. They're both awesome books, but TMNT #3 variant represents a very special, very early day in the history of TMNT. The closer you can get to that day and the preservation of that day, the better. Yellow labels blur the "special day" in history with another day... a random day... decades later... when the book was scribbled on by that original creator --- now a famous millionaire, not the same kid who made a comic --- and presented for "maximum profit" to CGC for certification before coming to market. If these books were $5, who cares... but they're 5-figure books... and collectors tend to get "serious" when the prices get that high. Expand very well said! The exception to this might be if the yellow label was signed by both Laird and Eastman. It's fairly common to find an Eastman sig but rare and expensive for a Laird one. Agreed, but you're still "blending" the survival aspects of a 1980s independent convention comic with the autographs of famous people decades later. When it's the creators, that's a good thing. They're famous now, they weren't then, but at least it's the creators. It's those decades in between which create that gap between "amazing preservation" and "oh, look... that's nice". Signatures get weirder when when it's a current actor signing decades old comics for a character they play. There's definitely a market for it, but it's strange... imagine having the Diana actress from The Crown sign a Life magazine with the real Princess Diana on the cover. (kinda creepy) pubmonkey, DPV and I am not Glenda 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubmonkey Posted April 14, 2021 Author Share Posted April 14, 2021 TMNT #1 9.6 on ComicConnect.com up to $53k with 6 hours to go... This one is signed by the duo on the inside too DPV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubmonkey Posted April 14, 2021 Author Share Posted April 14, 2021 $56k the #2 went to $2800 too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spracknetch23 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Re the #3 variant, I wonder how many of them aren’t signed at all? I’ve only run across one unsigned. I assume a high percentage of them were signed at the con back in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valiantman Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 1 hour ago, spracknetch23 said: Re the #3 variant, I wonder how many of them aren’t signed at all? I’ve only run across one unsigned. I assume a high percentage of them were signed at the con back in the day. Is there any discussion of whether they sold out at the convention? I agree that unsigned copies are unusual, but if they are "leftovers" (unsold copies), they lose a little bit of nostalgia-sparkle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubmonkey Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share Posted April 15, 2021 2 hours ago, spracknetch23 said: Re the #3 variant, I wonder how many of them aren’t signed at all? It's an interesting question, and likely only 2 people would know the answer if they remember at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubmonkey Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share Posted April 15, 2021 turtles auctions 26-27 minutes left with no changes yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalPSI Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Bought my first ever turtles books, a 3 3rd print, a 7 and a 10. They'll probably grade around 8.0 30bucks each pubmonkey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulksdaddy1 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 30 minutes ago, pubmonkey said: turtles auctions 26-27 minutes left with no changes yet Moving now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubmonkey Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share Posted April 15, 2021 still going! $76k! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spracknetch23 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, pubmonkey said: still going! $76k! Wow...just cracked $80k! pubmonkey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubmonkey Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share Posted April 15, 2021 $82! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubmonkey Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share Posted April 15, 2021 The9.2 #1 adventures is still going too: $610 and counting $84k now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulksdaddy1 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 $88k! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spracknetch23 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, pubmonkey said: The9.2 #1 adventures is still going too: $610 and counting $84k now I don't know how that 9.2 Adventures 1 is going so high. It just broke $1k while there's a 9.4 on Ebay right now for BIN $300.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulksdaddy1 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Hammer at $88k! valiantman and DPV 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubmonkey Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share Posted April 15, 2021 just wow!! DPV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPV Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, spracknetch23 said: I don't know how that 9.2 Adventures 1 is going so high. It just broke $1k while there's a 9.4 on Ebay right now for BIN $300.... It's wild! I think the same guys that were betting back and forth on the #1 were battling on this one too! More as a contest than anything else?? Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubmonkey Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share Posted April 15, 2021 it has to be the sigs...$1408 now DPV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...