Hulu's PREDATOR: PREY directed by Dan Trachtenberg (2022) 5 5

[Hawkman]

Absolutely stunning movie. Not as great as the OG, but damn close and a welcome addition. Definitely hope they run this back again. 

[Jaydogrules]

The impenetrable plot armor of the Mary Sue main character in this film turned this potential "7" of a movie into a 4.

To those who say this is "the best Predator movie eva!"..

Please....put down the pipe.

-J.

Edited August 14, 2022 by Jaydogrules

[MetalPSI]

On 8/14/2022 at 6:33 AM, Jaydogrules said:

The impenetrable plot armor of the Mary Sue main character in this film turned this potential "7" of a movie into a 4.

To those who say this is "the best Predator movie eva!"..

Please....put down the pipe.

-J.

You should quit sitting on yours

[Bosco685]

I actually had a good time watching this. And did it again yesterday.

I love the idea of predators appearing on Earth throughout history. Maybe even they tie them into the lost citizens of Roanoke Island to explain what really took place - fictionally, of course.

[Bosco685]

 

[Jaydogrules]

On 8/14/2022 at 5:02 AM, The Meta said:

You should quit sitting on yours

Right.  

Because watching a 110 pound teenage girl single handedly take down the galaxy's most skilled and powerful hunter,(not to mention a half dozen armed burly French trappers) without taking so much as a scratch, with nothing more than sticks and stones and a magically retractable ax is such riveting cinema.     

-J.

[Sauce Dog]

On 8/14/2022 at 10:45 AM, Jaydogrules said:

Right.  

Because watching a 110 pound teenage girl single handedly take down the galaxy's most skilled and powerful hunter,(not to mention a half dozen armed burly French trappers) without taking so much as a scratch, with nothing more than sticks and stones and a magically retractable ax is such riveting cinema.     

-J.

Did we watch the same movie? She never took down Feral 'single handedly', in fact it took MANY other people hurting it before she was able finish it off (with tactics Dutch eventually resorted to in the first movie, but also combined with the Predators own tech because he was acting very reckless by the end) - the entire point of her brothers arc was about teamwork and trusting each others ideas on the hunt. She was also getting injured often (as I mentioned before, her own wounds mirrored that of the predators initially. Also Danny Glover pretty much sustained less injuries fighting in Predator 2 than she did, and I really don't think anyone in their right mind would argue that a middle aged out of shape cop is a better natural hunter in the wilderness than an eager Comanche)

Just because a woman wins in the end doesn't mean it is a 'Mary Sue', and I find cries of such a trope pretty common by those who don't actually know what it is. Naru was a very flawed character in contrast to her tribesmen; stubborn, independent, impulsive, and goes through much before barely wining in the end due to being constantly underestimated (by friend and foe alike)

Edited August 14, 2022 by Sauce Dog

[Buzzetta]

On 8/14/2022 at 11:56 AM, Sauce Dog said:

Did we watch the same movie? She never took down Feral 'single handedly', in fact it took MANY other people hurting it before she was able finish it off (with tactics Dutch eventually resorted to in the first movie, but also combined with the Predators own tech because he was acting very reckless by the end) - the entire point of her brothers arc was about teamwork and trusting each others ideas on the hunt. She was also getting injured often (as I mentioned before, her own wounds mirrored that of the predators initially. Also Danny Glover pretty much sustained less injuries fighting in Predator 2 than she did, and I really don't think anyone in their right mind would argue that a middle aged out of shape cop is a better natural hunter in the wilderness than an eager Comanche)

Just because a woman wins in the end doesn't mean it is a 'Mary Sue', and I find cries of such a trope pretty common by those who don't actually know what it is. Naru was a very flawed character in contrast to her tribesmen; stubborn, independent, impulsive, and goes through much before barely wining in the end due to being constantly underestimated (but friend and foe alike)

Well said.  

The only addition to this is that in many parts of the movie she is given a pass and not outright slaughtered by the Predator as the Predator did not consider her a threat.  She was virtually ignored when tied to a tree with her brother and when she was bound by her hands behind a log. 

I really enjoyed this movie. 

[Jaydogrules]

On 8/14/2022 at 8:56 AM, Sauce Dog said:

Did we watch the same movie? She never took down Feral 'single handedly', in fact it took MANY other people hurting it before she was able finish it off (with tactics Dutch eventually resorted to in the first movie, but also combined with the Predators own tech because he was acting very reckless by the end) - the entire point of her brothers arc was about teamwork and trusting each others ideas on the hunt. She was also getting injured often (as I mentioned before, her own wounds mirrored that of the predators initially. Also Danny Glover pretty much sustained less injuries fighting in Predator 2 than she did, and I really don't think anyone in their right mind would argue that a middle aged out of shape cop is a better natural hunter in the wilderness than an eager Comanche)

Just because a woman wins in the end doesn't mean it is a 'Mary Sue', and I find cries of such a trope pretty common by those who don't actually know what it is. Naru was a very flawed character in contrast to her tribesmen; stubborn, independent, impulsive, and goes through much before barely wining in the end due to being constantly underestimated (but friend and foe alike)

Yes a few of the male tribesmen poked him with their sticks too  beforehand but that doesn't really change the implausibility of it all (within the internal "logic" of the movie, of course).

Let's just pretend a simple Hunter didn't take out two highly trained special ops teams in the first one, and a massive gang of armed thugs in the second one, or (Feral taking out) every young hunting male in Mary Sue's tribe in this one, all it took was a little girl power and a magically retractable yo-yo ax to save the day, without taking a single hit. 

Hope she learns how to catch more than rabbits for food since evidently everyone left in her tribe will be relying on her to eat for the next 15 years or so.  

-J.

Edited August 14, 2022 by Jaydogrules

[▫️]

On 8/14/2022 at 5:45 PM, Jaydogrules said:

Right.  

Because watching a 110 pound teenage girl single handedly take down the galaxy's most skilled and powerful hunter,(not to mention a half dozen armed burly French trappers) without taking so much as a scratch, with nothing more than sticks and stones and a magically retractable ax is such riveting cinema.     

-J.

No one called it cinema. No one’s comparing it to The Godfather. It was dumb fun and arguably the second best Predator movie. Maybe tied with Predators. I think I only read one person here saying they liked it better than the original. Quit being a drama queen. 

[Jaydogrules]

On 8/14/2022 at 9:09 AM, ▫️ said:

No one called it cinema. No one’s comparing it to The Godfather. It was dumb fun and arguably the second best Predator movie. Maybe tied with Predators. I think I only read one person here saying they liked it better than the original. Quit being a drama queen. 

Predator Rankings:

Predator 

Predator 2

Predators 

Alien v. Predator

Prey

The Predator

Alien v. Predator: Requiem 

-J.

[▫️]

On 8/14/2022 at 7:16 PM, Jaydogrules said:

Predator Rankings:

Predator 

Predator 2

Predators 

Alien v. Predator

Prey

The Predator

Alien v. Predator: Requiem 

-J.

I’m not going to knock it, its your list. I just never liked the AVP stuff.

[MetalPSI]

3 of those movies don't exist for me

[Sauce Dog]

On 8/14/2022 at 12:05 PM, Jaydogrules said:

Yes a few of the male tribesmen poked him with their sticks too  beforehand but that doesn't really change the implausibility of it all (within the internal "logic" of the movie, of course).

Let's just pretend a simple Hunter didn't take out two highly trained special ops teams in the first one, and a massive gang of armed thugs in the second one, or (Feral taking out) every young hunting male in Mary Sue's tribe in this one, all it took was a little girl power and a magically retractable yo-yo ax to save the day, without taking a single hit. 

Hope she learns how to catch more than rabbits for food since evidently everyone left in her tribe will be relying on her to eat for the next 15 years or so.  

-J.

"Poked with a stick"...yeah cause getting stabbed through the chest with a spear is totally a minor thing we've all had to walk off before. You seem to just want to diminish everything prior to her success in order to make it sound silly - we can do that for all of em; Ghost got injured by multiple shotgun blasts all over his body, which is just like BB gun pellets before a middle aged cop got full credit for beating him.  

She took plenty of hits, so it just sounds like you have a problem with anything that features a woman doing anything. Nobody is saying any of these movies are perfect, they have plenty of plot issues so not sure why you want to make up weird plot problems that are not a thing (she wouldn't be the sole provider of her tribe catching only rabbits, we saw there were more men still and no single person ever went out hunting to provide for them all...and considering her ENTIRE STORY ARC I would imagine she would actually encourage the other woman to take up hunting if they so choose)

Each Yautja we've seen was different - Feral was literally the least experienced and juvenile of all hunters we've seen, and most certainly the quickest to get frustrated and respond with empty-headed emotional outbursts when things didn't go his way. This was his literal first hunt (once again, a story beat mirroring Naru's first hunt, just as each of their prey is mirrored in both of them starting with small game, such as rabbits, and working up to larger beasts. Literally scriptwriting 101 here). Canonically Ghost and Savage were two of the more experienced hunters, and who had done this many times before.

Let's just pretend a simple Hunter didn't take out two highly trained special ops teams in the first one...all it took was a trained army vet realizing his special ops training was useless and needed to change it up and lots of magically free time to build an entire home-alone traps jungle gym to save the day against a Predator who willingly disarmed it self because the prey sucked at winning, without taking a single hit.  

 

[MetalPSI]

On 8/14/2022 at 3:55 PM, Sauce Dog said:

"Poked with a stick"...yeah cause getting stabbed through the chest with a spear is totally a minor thing we've all had to walk off before. You seem to just want to diminish everything prior to her success in order to make it sound silly - we can do that for all of em; Ghost got injured by multiple shotgun blasts all over his body, which is just like BB gun pellets before a middle aged cop got full credit for beating him.  

She took plenty of hits, so it just sounds like you have a problem with anything that features a woman doing anything. Nobody is saying any of these movies are perfect, they have plenty of plot issues so not sure why you want to make up weird plot problems that are not a thing (she wouldn't be the sole provider of her tribe catching only rabbits, we saw there were more men still and no single person ever went out hunting to provide for them all...and considering her ENTIRE STORY ARC I would imagine she would actually encourage the other woman to take up hunting if they so choose)

Each Yautja we've seen was different - Feral was literally the least experienced and juvenile of all hunters we've seen, and most certainly the quickest to get frustrated and respond with empty-headed emotional outbursts when things didn't go his way. This was his literal first hunt (once again, a story beat mirroring Naru's first hunt, just as each of their prey is mirrored in both of them starting with small game, such as rabbits, and working up to larger beasts. Literally scriptwriting 101 here). Canonically Ghost and Savage were two of the more experienced hunters, and who had done this many times before.

Let's just pretend a simple Hunter didn't take out two highly trained special ops teams in the first one...all it took was a trained army vet realizing his special ops training was useless and needed to change it up and lots of magically free time to build an entire home-alone traps jungle gym to save the day against a Predator who willingly disarmed it self because the prey sucked at winning, without taking a single hit.  

 

Its been in the comics that a Predator doesn't get its laser cannon till certain criteria are met, that was my clue in at how green this one was 

As for the pet names, which Predators are Ghost and Savage?

[Lpgk]

On 8/14/2022 at 12:02 PM, The Meta said:

Its been in the comics that a Predator doesn't get its laser cannon till certain criteria are met, that was my clue in at how green this one was 

As for the pet names, which Predators are Ghost and Savage?

Predator 1 Savage

Predator 2 Ghost

 

[Jaydogrules]

On 8/14/2022 at 12:55 PM, Sauce Dog said:

"Poked with a stick"...yeah cause getting stabbed through the chest with a spear is totally a minor thing we've all had to walk off before. You seem to just want to diminish everything prior to her success in order to make it sound silly - we can do that for all of em; Ghost got injured by multiple shotgun blasts all over his body, which is just like BB gun pellets before a middle aged cop got full credit for beating him.  

She took plenty of hits, so it just sounds like you have a problem with anything that features a woman doing anything. Nobody is saying any of these movies are perfect, they have plenty of plot issues so not sure why you want to make up weird plot problems that are not a thing (she wouldn't be the sole provider of her tribe catching only rabbits, we saw there were more men still and no single person ever went out hunting to provide for them all...and considering her ENTIRE STORY ARC I would imagine she would actually encourage the other woman to take up hunting if they so choose)

Each Yautja we've seen was different - Feral was literally the least experienced and juvenile of all hunters we've seen, and most certainly the quickest to get frustrated and respond with empty-headed emotional outbursts when things didn't go his way. This was his literal first hunt (once again, a story beat mirroring Naru's first hunt, just as each of their prey is mirrored in both of them starting with small game, such as rabbits, and working up to larger beasts. Literally scriptwriting 101 here). Canonically Ghost and Savage were two of the more experienced hunters, and who had done this many times before.

Let's just pretend a simple Hunter didn't take out two highly trained special ops teams in the first one...all it took was a trained army vet realizing his special ops training was useless and needed to change it up and lots of magically free time to build an entire home-alone traps jungle gym to save the day against a Predator who willingly disarmed it self because the prey sucked at winning, without taking a single hit.  

 

You should watch Predator 2 again.  Danny Glover fought ghost for literally the last half hour of the film, almost single handedly, and was the only one who did any damage to it.

Unlike Mary Sue who jumped on the thing's back for a few seconds , and apparently overwhelmed it with a magic ax.

Bear in mind that Danny Glover blasted ghost point blank with a shotgun about 10 times and that barely fazed it.  So yes- these things are supposed to have extremely thick hydes, spears poking at it would be like someone pricking us with a toothpick- at least for everyone but Mary Sue.

We won't even get into what Dutch did in Predator 1, and even he STILL didn't actually kill it, it only died by blowing itself up.

Yeah, Mary Sue definitely had quite the easy time of things.  I guess we'll also just ignore the fact that the ONLY reason ALL of the young able bodied men in her tribe were annihilated was because they were out looking for her while she was out looking for Feral WHO DIDNT EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE TRIBE UNTIL SHE WENT OUT LOOKING FOR IT. There were nothing but old men and women standing around laughing and cheering and whooping it up , apparently everyone havng forgotten that all of their sons are dead and they will soon starve to death.  

Yeah. The more I talk about this movie the more it sucks. 

-J.

Edited August 14, 2022 by Jaydogrules

[MetalPSI]

Anyways, this is an excellent movie and I recommend it to everyone

My better half never seen a Predator movie before and she didn't mind it

[Bosco685]

 

[Lpgk]

On 8/14/2022 at 12:32 PM, Jaydogrules said:

You should watch Predator 2 again.  Danny Glover fought ghost for literally the last half hour of the film, almost single handedly, and was the only one who did any damage to it.

Unlike Mary Sue who jumped on the thing's back for a few seconds , and apparently overwhelmed it with a magic ax.

Bear in mind that Danny Glover blasted ghost point blank with a shotgun about 10 times and that barely fazed it.  So yes- these things are supposed to have extremely thick hydes, spears poking at it would be like someone pricking us with a toothpick- at least for everyone but Mary Sue.

We won't even get into what Dutch did in Predator 1, and even he STILL didn't actually kill it, it only died by blowing itself up.

Yeah, Mary Sue definitely had quite the easy time of things.  I guess we'll also just ignore the fact that the ONLY reason ALL of the young able bodied men in her tribe were annihilated was because they were out looking for her while she was out looking for Feral WHO DIDNT EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE TRIBE UNTIL SHE WENT OUT LOOKING FOR IT. There were nothing but old men and women standing around laughing and cheering and whooping it up , apparently everyone havng forgotten that all of their sons are dead and they will soon starve to death.  

Yeah. The more I talk about this movie the more it sucks. 

-J.

I had to google the term Mary Sue. I wasn't born in that era. LOL.