adamstrange Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, cheetah said: I thought the Church books were better than average on color and am hoping this one would show signs of an OO looking for good colors. Church copies preserved original colors as close as possible to what they looked like fresh on the newsstand. Especially on early GA comics, it is easy to spot a Church book in a pile because they are so bright. That is not necessarily true with FH because of their printing problems. Church was only able to pick from the few copies at his newsstand, which most likely all had the same color intensity. Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 29 minutes ago, Robot Man said: I have always felt that CGC should down grade these a little bit. I know they consider it a “production error”. I have very often traded down FH books with a higher number for a lower number with better color. It is all about the color on these. Buy the book not the slab. In order to downgrade, you have to know what the book ideally looked like. It's only now, after 20 years of submissions. that CGC could have an idea of what a particular FH issue should look like on the newsstand. I say "could" because that's assuming they've kept scans along the way of the best colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, GACollectibles said: The Promise Collection Pedigree got it's name from the Promise Margarine cases found stacked upon the comics, the weight and the margarine which had been liberally applied to the comics as well helped preserve their color gloss and freshness. Heritage Auctions looks forward to spreading this collection for all to enjoy....." Well, I just ran down to my local Superstore as fast as my little feet could take me and loaded up on the margarine before everybody else finds out about this new way to preserve the color gloss and freshness of your comic books. Did they say how many layers of margarine I should be applying to my books to get the optimal preservation effect on my books. Edited May 3, 2021 by lou_fine aardvark88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GACollectibles Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 1 minute ago, lou_fine said: Did they say how many layers of margarine I should be applying to my books to get the optimal preservation effect on my books. Recommended serving size application amount is 1 tbsp. Conopco Inc. stock up .88% on CGC "Promise Collection" Pedigree News (ok, it really is up .88% but maybe that would have happened without the pedigree announcement) tth2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Man Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 52 minutes ago, adamstrange said: In order to downgrade, you have to know what the book ideally looked like. It's only now, after 20 years of submissions. that CGC could have an idea of what a particular FH issue should look like on the newsstand. I say "could" because that's assuming they've kept scans along the way of the best colors. At this point if they don’t know, they should take off for “fading” like any other book... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Man Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 2 hours ago, vheflin said: One Fight so far although a lowly 8.5 shabby beater I had a 7.0 copy of that one that looked very similar. I happily down graded to a 5.0 with much better color. The greens and reds simply HAVE to pop on that book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfcityduck Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) The vast majority of pedigree stories don't really matter to me. At their core, they boil down to X person saved X number of comics with an average condition of X for X years. And for most of the pedigrees, we don't even know what the X's are. Even when we do, for most its just boring info that is true for pretty much every comic on the market: The Billy Wright backstory, for example, is pretty typical: Billy Wright saved 340 comics purchased from 1936 to 1941 that remained neatly stacked in a basement closet until discovered by a family member and sold on Heritage. It's the comics that were exciting! Not the back story. So right now, I'm not sitting on pins and needles wanting to know the "backstory" on this collection. The fact they chose to call it the "Promise" collection suggests that the info will be limited, probably not revealing the original owner's name, and therefore might be unverifiable. Someone up thread speculated that this was a collection kept for a soldier who "promised" to come back from war. Guess what? We already got that story for the "Tom Reilly" or "San Francisco" pedigree, and it has never been verified. Some of the tactics used to hype comics just don't move the needle for me. Edited May 3, 2021 by sfcityduck SOTIcollector 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pemart1966 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 22 minutes ago, lou_fine said: Well, I just ran down to my local Superstore as fast as my little feet could take me and loaded up on the margarine before everybody else finds out about this new way to preserve the color gloss and freshness of your comic books. Did they say how many layers of margarine I should be applying to my books to get the optimal preservation effect on my books. Forget the comic books! I'm going to lather margarine all over MYSELF and then see what happ...UH...never mind...this isn't coming out the way that I intended Jasonmorris1000000 and speedcake 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buliwyf Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 ..Promise Margarine, good one but couldn't be further from the actual origin of the collection name.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Just now, nooncee said: ..Promise Margarine, good one but couldn't be further from the actual origin of the collection name.. The collector's name is Promise..case closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buliwyf Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 ..my reference was to the margarine not the last name.."nuff said" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrBedrock Posted May 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2021 3 hours ago, vheflin said: One Fight so far although a lowly 8.5 shabby beater mwotka, Hutch88, SOTIcollector and 15 others 17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfcityduck Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, MrBedrock said: Easy choice on which is better ... by far. Sarg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post MrBedrock Posted May 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2021 18 minutes ago, sfcityduck said: Easy choice on which is better ... by far. I manipulated the scan and removed the pedigree notation. Gotham Kid, CrocHntr, entalmighty1 and 5 others 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyder! Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 7 hours ago, cheetah said: Personally, I'm still waiting to see if there are any Fiction House books in the mix. 7 hours ago, Ricksneatstuff said: Planets? I sure hope so. Not that I'll be able to afford them, but maybe some undercopies will come to market after. Miamiknight3434 and Ricksneatstuff 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tth2 Posted May 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 4, 2021 6 hours ago, sfcityduck said: The vast majority of pedigree stories don't really matter to me. At their core, they boil down to X person saved X number of comics with an average condition of X for X years. And for most of the pedigrees, we don't even know what the X's are. Even when we do, for most its just boring info that is true for pretty much every comic on the market: The Billy Wright backstory, for example, is pretty typical: Billy Wright saved 340 comics purchased from 1936 to 1941 that remained neatly stacked in a basement closet until discovered by a family member and sold on Heritage. It's the comics that were exciting! Not the back story. So right now, I'm not sitting on pins and needles wanting to know the "backstory" on this collection. The fact they chose to call it the "Promise" collection suggests that the info will be limited, probably not revealing the original owner's name, and therefore might be unverifiable. Someone up thread speculated that this was a collection kept for a soldier who "promised" to come back from war. Guess what? We already got that story for the "Tom Reilly" or "San Francisco" pedigree, and it has never been verified. Some of the tactics used to hype comics just don't move the needle for me. Thanks, sfcitygrinch. lou_fine, Badger, sfcityduck and 6 others 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfcityduck Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 19 minutes ago, tth2 said: Thanks, sfcitygrinch. I wish I looked that good! I'm much thinner on top. Sincerely, SFcitycynic Chief1332, AJD and Randall Dowling 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmehdy Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 What is HA waiting for...I don't understand why no announcement about this collection..they are already posting books? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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