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[Randall Dowling]

This book (Brave and the Bold 61) is closing on Comic Connect tonight.  The current bid is way low for what it should sell for so I got interested.  It's one of my favorite covers of the DC Silver Age.

Gorgeous book, right?  Except it's sitting a little bit low in the case... So I looked at the back cover.  

Really... this is becoming a very common occurrence with books that are in slabs.  I'm now beginning to think that the most risky thing you can do with a high grade book is to send it for grading.  If you follow the Grading and Restoration sub forum, books like this are showing up all the time now.  CGC has got to fix this so it doesn't keep happening.  SCS has been a problem since the beginning but each successive redesign of the case seems to make it worse.  I no longer find it acceptable for sellers to say "no returns on graded books" as you can easily get a book that is now an 8.0 in a 9.6 case.

Many of us have seen the IH 181 9.9 with the crushed corner.  I'm bringing this forward in the hope that CGC will take this seriously and figure out a better way because it's really sad to see a book that has been preserved for 50+ years in immaculate condition, only to get damaged when it's put into a slab.  Most of the seasoned collectors know the old adage of "Buy the book, not the label".  Unfortunately, this is in direct contravention of the very purpose for CGC to exist.  If you can't trust the number on the slab, what's the point.

I feel bad for the consignor.  But no one should buy this book without being made aware of that corner.

[THE_BEYONDER]

[Namtak]

Thats how i felt seeing the back of that cover 

[vheflin]

That looks like another inner well that wasn't sealed at the bottom.

[djzombi]

This makes me want to cry.  

[grendelbo]

2 hours ago, Randall Dowling said:

Many of us have seen the IH 181 9.9 with the crushed corner.

I haven't. Where could I?

[BlowUpTheMoon]

@COMICLINKShould have pulled that listing. 

[thehumantorch]

18 minutes ago, BlowUpTheMoon said:

@COMICLINKShould have pulled that listing. 

Agreed, clearly it's damaged and isn't the grade advertised.  Has comiclink hired Dylan?

[Mmehdy]

30 minutes ago, BlowUpTheMoon said:

@COMICLINKShould have pulled that listing. 

100% agree, they should pull it

[shadroch]

The wheels are in motion......

[Randall Dowling]

37 minutes ago, BlowUpTheMoon said:

@COMICLINKShould have pulled that listing. 

 It's listed on Comic Connect.

[Mercury Man]

Edgar Church didn't use CGC.  His books survived just fine.

[Hamlet]

1 minute ago, Randall Dowling said:

 It's listed on Comic Connect.

I’m waiting for someone to buy it and then re-list it on Comiclink so that people bidding don’t see the back cover 😉

[ADAMANTIUM]

3 minutes ago, Hamlet said:

I’m waiting for someone to buy it and then re-list it on Comiclink so that people bidding don’t see the back cover 😉

Lol that's what through me off, I thought there was no back pic, but then now I get that its comic connect.

Shame, been a lot of it, and just stress to the hobby

I wonder when it was graded, if freshly, it goes without saying, but it may have been longer ago?

Edited June 25, 2021 by ADAMANTIUM

[grendelbo]

Link? I can't find it.

6 minutes ago, Randall Dowling said:

 It's listed on Comic Connect.

Or is it gone?

[comicdonna]

2 hours ago, vheflin said:

That looks like another inner well that wasn't sealed at the bottom.

Yep, or poorly sealed.  Here's a good thread that shows different examples of inner wells, problems ect...

 

[BabyAteMyDingo]

6 minutes ago, Mercury Man said:

Edgar Church didn't use CGC.  His books survived just fine.

That is where I stand. I have many raw books. We grew up knowing how to handle them. If I sell my books, I am as honest as can be. IF someone doesn't want to buy them ungraded, then I am perfectly content to keep them. Mylar and backing boards have served me well for 40+ years of owning comic books.

[Randall Dowling]

3 minutes ago, grendelbo said:

Link? I can't find it.

Or is it gone?

No, here's the link on Comic Connect for the Brave and the Bold 61

https://www.comicconnect.com/item/903714

Here's a picture of the Hulk 181 but it's low res and hard to see.  My recollection is that the upper right corner is smashed.  Not a 9.9 anymore.

[Ares]

the metropolis sticker on the  back is just as bad

[BabyAteMyDingo]

1 minute ago, Randall Dowling said:

No, here's the link on Comic Connect for the Brave and the Bold 61

https://www.comicconnect.com/item/903714

Here's a picture of the Hulk 181 but it's low res and hard to see.  My recollection is that the upper right corner is smashed.  Not a 9.9 anymore.

I hate to be the wanker, but I don't think that was ever a 9.9. The lower left corner has some wear and there are spine ticks along the black line border on the left.