tfish1 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Thoughts https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/marvel-comics-1-pay-copy-timely-1939-cgc-vf-nm-90-off-white-pages/a/7017-91243.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515# https://www.comicconnect.com/item/867184 KirbyJack and Mmehdy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) Borock was given a lot of grief over the years giving it a 9.0, nice to see that wasn't warranted after all! Would you buy it as a 9.2 Tom? I would not. Edited February 21, 2022 by Timely Larryw7 and grendelbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 10:00 AM, tfish1 said: Thoughts https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/marvel-comics-1-pay-copy-timely-1939-cgc-vf-nm-90-off-white-pages/a/7017-91243.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515# https://www.comicconnect.com/item/867184 Why do the colors present better now than when it was a 9.0? Is CC just enhancing the image, compared to when Heritage sold it and I guess presented it as is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 1:09 PM, LDarkseid1 said: Why do the colors present better now than when it was a 9.0? Is CC just enhancing the image, compared to when Heritage sold it and I guess presented it as is? The blue on the label is darker. It's a different scanner/camera being used now. LDarkseid1, jimjum12 and Randall Dowling 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicparadox Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Amazing bit of history. Frank R. Paul got $25 for the cover. It'd be interesting to see what the payment was for the first SubMariner to Everett. Interested what this will auction for now that it's a 9.2 not 9.0... SpideyFein and Mmehdy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pemart1966 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 This book is like a fine wine apparently - it keeps getting better with age. FoggyNelson, Mmehdy and jimjum12 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sfcityduck Posted February 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2022 Does an MC 1 increase in value when it gets a bump these days? Seems like all that should matter is where it ranks on the desirability scale. The way I see it, the most desirable copy is the Mile High. The second most desirable copy is the Pay Copy because of its historical import, even if it used to be a 9.0 and is now a 9.2. The third most desirable copy is the 9.4 that used that to be a 9.0 and/or 8.5. Readcomix, jimjum12, Randall Dowling and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfcityduck Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 10:55 AM, pemart1966 said: This book is like a fine wine apparently - it keeps getting better with age. They all are. grendelbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 I think it looks spectacular in a 9.2 holder. Amazing book. Crowzilla, bounty_coder, PopKulture and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pemart1966 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) On 2/21/2022 at 1:34 PM, comicparadox said: Amazing bit of history. Frank R. Paul got $25 for the cover. It'd be interesting to see what the payment was for the first SubMariner to Everett. Interested what this will auction for now that it's a 9.2 not 9.0... It's a confusing matter as to how much Everett received - unless it's been universally resolved since the book first came up at the 1993 Sotheby's auction. The 1993 Sotheby's write up was very poor - at least the paragraph dealing with Everett's payment was IMO. The way that I interpret the summary as it relates to Everett is: He apparently was paid at least $96.00 ($8/page - check #110) - which looks as if it was computed as $64.00 + $32.00 - thought to be $64.00 for the 8 pages that appeared in MPFW and the additional 4 pages that filled out the Submariner story in Marvel Comic #1. Confusing this is that there's an additional notation for a check #110 in the amount of $83.25 which does not compute to a round $/page rate. Edited February 21, 2022 by pemart1966 SpideyFein and jimjum12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjum12 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 I always found it odd that the Pay Copy was a November rather than an October. GOD BLESS.... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) Mmehdy, pemart1966 and sfcityduck 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfcityduck Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 12:07 PM, jimjum12 said: I always found it odd that the Pay Copy was a November rather than an October. GOD BLESS.... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) Apparently old Lloyd wasn't adverse to paying his artists a little late. jimjum12 and rob_react 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauce Dog Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 I do think this is cool, but it annoys me that they will go out of their way to change the label to designate this a PAY COPY but won't do the same to designate a CHECKING COPY (which they just label as being a FILE COPY, even though it says checking copy on the cover and clearly is marked on all the pages as such and had a totally different use than typical file copies). VintageComics and grendelbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RareHighGrade Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 10:09 AM, LDarkseid1 said: Why do the colors present better now than when it was a 9.0? Is CC just enhancing the image, compared to when Heritage sold it and I guess presented it as is? CC scans are always darker than the actual book. Sometimes the dark scan makes the book look better, sometimes it makes the book look worse. lou_fine, jimjum12 and LDarkseid1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjpb Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 November copy with doodling all over the cover - no thanks! pemart1966, Courageous Cat and Primetime 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmehdy Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 12:07 PM, jimjum12 said: I always found it odd that the Pay Copy was a November rather than an October. GOD BLESS.... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) I prefer the Oct as well jimjum12 and Courageous Cat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 I have started working a second job to fundraise for this auction. bounty_coder, Terry JSA and paqart 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw-Man Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 12:03 PM, Timely said: Borock was given a lot of over the years giving it a 9.0, nice to see that wasn't warranted after all! Would you buy it as a 9.2 Tom? I would not. i would. KirbyJack and VintageComics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Man Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 11:51 AM, pemart1966 said: It's a confusing matter as to how much Everett received - unless it's been universally resolved since the book first came up at the 1993 Sotheby's auction. The 1993 Sotheby's write up was very poor - at least the paragraph dealing with Everett's payment was IMO. The way that I interpret the summary as it relates to Everett is: He apparently was paid at least $96.00 ($8/page - check #110) - which looks as if it was computed as $64.00 + $32.00 - thought to be $64.00 for the 8 pages that appeared in MPFW and the additional 4 pages that filled out the Submariner story in Marvel Comic #1. Confusing this is that there's an additional notation for a check #110 in the amount of $83.25 which does not compute to a round $/page rate. I would think he got paid for MPFW. Marvel #1 was basically a reprint wasn’t it? Maybe a reprint rate. Did they do that back then? jimjum12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw-Man Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 1:39 PM, batman_fan said: I think it looks spectacular in a 9.2 holder. Amazing book. i've held it. it does. jimjum12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
