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[Nic8612]

On 8/16/2022 at 2:26 PM, ExNihilo said:

@CGC Mike so can we expect CGC to issue a statement walking back their position on the matter.  You literally have Marvel telling retailers that such actions are not permitted.  Seriously, I don't mind when people do something wrong, but I do mind when they double down on their idiocy in the face of mounting support disproving them.  How f'in hard is it for a company to swallow it's pride and do the ethical thing?

(And before anyone responds, it was a rhetorical question.  I have every expectation that CGC will bury their head in the sand.)

CGC:

[comicbookfinsta]

With marvel weighing, I’m seeing a bit of a tidying up on this nonsense. 
 

Honestly, I could care less about the acetate covers. Never really did. If Joe Collector wants them, buy them and I’m happy if you’re happy. 
 

My skin is in the game on the grades of 10 and 9.9 that were given to these polished turds. They bring to light what we already suspected…there’s a policy in place where CGC is willing to juice an occasional grade to 10 or 9 instead of a 9.8 to get collectors to chase that golden ticket. Those 10 and 9.9 drip drips keep people coming back, and keep those 9.9 and 10 grades rare and special on the label because the actual comic books inside aren’t a damn bit different. I always could live with this little game. 
 

As I said before, my theory is that CGC was sending a signal on this acetate business that if any retailer makes one of these special deals with us, we will grade it and make it worth the dealer/retailers while.  More or less saying, “hey, we’re both going to profit off this.”
 

I care about the credibility of CGC, so the signal that I received was, “we don’t have any credibility, so your bins of CGC slabs don’t have any credibility either.”
 

 

Edited August 16, 2022 by comicbookfinsta

[kirbykrackle]

On 8/16/2022 at 3:42 PM, s-dali said:

Yeah, it sure would. I was just giving @shadroch an example of an artist selling his own exclusive covers. Horn is the one I know of. I'd be surprised if he was the only one.

Mike Mayhew is another.

Edited August 16, 2022 by kirbykrackle

[toro]

[Strike W]

On 8/16/2022 at 2:26 PM, ExNihilo said:

@CGC Mike so can we expect CGC to issue a statement walking back their position on the matter.  You literally have Marvel telling retailers that such actions are not permitted.  Seriously, I don't mind when people do something wrong, but I do mind when they double down on their idiocy in the face of mounting support disproving them.  How f'in hard is it for a company to swallow its pride and do the ethical thing?

(And before anyone responds, it was a rhetorical question.  I have every expectation that CGC will bury their head in the sand.)

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if they do capitulate and null the graded book numbers

it would be the only real way to hit the people still exploiting this with reality

[Strike W]

On 8/16/2022 at 3:42 PM, s-dali said:

Yeah, it sure would. I was just giving @shadroch an example of an artist selling his own exclusive covers. Horn is the one I know of. I'd be surprised if he was the only one.

Alex Ross

[ADAMANTIUM]

On 8/16/2022 at 3:02 PM, kirbykrackle said:

Mike Mayhew is another.

 

On 8/16/2022 at 3:10 PM, Strike W said:

Alex Ross

Was cho mentioned? Or is that sketch covers only? Or something idk

[chrisco37]

On 8/16/2022 at 11:54 AM, shadroch said:

Can we say Jason Ewert or the guys that were manipulating spines? How about the guys who were making covers out of thin air. All those were okay until they suddenly weren't.

I don’t recall CGC ever being OK with the Ewert Micro-trimming.  When that went down, he was “banned” pretty quickly.  As far as I know, that was never allowed/endorsed by CGC.
The spine-roll stuff got dealt with quickly as well.  That fell into that (very grey) pressing area.  I’m not sure if they endorsed that or if people were sneaking it by.  
Not familiar with the cover thing you’re referencing.  Do you mean leaf-casting?   I know they never graded those full on facsimile covers.  
I think all 3 of those are very different situations than the BF acetate “variants

[BenF]

I don't care if it's Jack Kirby resurrected from the grave drawing on character covers he created!!!..... When you add to a book post-production its not a freaking Universal grade! 

[toro]

On 8/16/2022 at 4:23 PM, BenF said:

I don't care if it's Jack Kirby resurrected from the grave drawing on character covers he created!!!..... When you add to a book post-production its not a freaking Universal grade! 

It wouldn't be a universal grade, but dang I would buy one of those in a heartbeat.  Unless it was for stoopid money like the Crain junk.

[buttock]

Pure coincidence, I'm sure. 

[williamblood]

so cgc and whatnot are partners, that explains everything

Edited August 16, 2022 by williamblood

[AmazingComics413]

On 8/16/2022 at 4:29 PM, buttock said:

Pure coincidence, I'm sure. 

Beat me to it

[ScarletSpider94]

The plot thickens…

[ADAMANTIUM]

[eddly]

[williamblood]

a grading company should not be a reseller, 

[ADAMANTIUM]

On 8/16/2022 at 3:41 PM, williamblood said:

a grading company should not be a reseller, 

Afaik it's for giveaways only, to watch the live feed and promote artists, cgc and etc but I get your point.

[Miket123]

On 8/16/2022 at 2:29 PM, toro said:

If Marvel doesn't approve of this, does that mean CGC is not going to trot out the new label that explains how a green label is now a blue label if an "established" artist does the work?  Or has that horse left the barn with that cha-cha-ching that Black Flag gave CGC.  Just wanted to know if I should tell people to stick their acetate in the mail box or to take their acetate and stick it somewhere else.

a blueish-green label....like sea foam...or teal. 

[williamblood]

give them a black label with no grade, that way people can have them encapsulated without hurting grading scale