Marcus Wai is Awesome and the joy of getting feedback 2 2

[The Voord]

On 9/12/2022 at 12:43 PM, MAR1979 said:

I have on good authority that that vile thread which the OP started out nastiness and hatred had more flagged reports by more members than any in the history of these CGC forums

Excellent!  I get that some boardies want to remain anonymous for valid reasons, and don't act like jerks, but this Race/Herbie species of low life didn't come here to talk about art . . . he just wanted to disparage another collector, empowered by the (mistaken) belief that he could be as outrageous as he wanted, with no accountability.  If people want to be contentious, they should at least man up, own their opinions by ID-ing themselves and not hide behind the shield of anonymity.

Edited September 12, 2022 by The Voord

[Bronty]

Sounds like there were some fireworks

[Aahz]

Well the one thing the thread did do is motivate me to start looking at some of the older art on CAF ... and liking/commenting on them.

[thethedew]

On 9/12/2022 at 10:42 AM, Heidjer Staecker said:

...start looking at some of the older art on CAF ... and liking/commenting on them.

This actually dovetails with something which occurred to me this weekend.

Everyone understands that the VAST majority of 'comments' on any particular piece are left probably in, say, the first 48 hours after a piece is added to a gallery.
(This excepts Comic Book Royalty-type additions, which will attract comments at a more-or-less steady pace for the whole of their gallery life)

After that, it usually quiets down.

EXCEPT... the 'views' tracker still keeps ticking over, ever growing.

SO... my question is: WHO are these fans who continue to view pages steadily, but are very, very unlikely to leave comments?

A few suggestions:
1) Non-CAF viewers, who, having no CAF account, don't have the ability to comment (probably brought in by Google searches?)
2) Automated processes, (perhaps within CAF but more likely external) i.e. bots whose attention still counts as a CAF view
3) The Cabal, quietly lurking in disciplined fashion; typical.

Now that I look at my list, I don't know if there is much to discuss after all.     Will post anyway, in case anyone has anything to add or correct.

[malvin]

On 9/12/2022 at 9:59 AM, thethedew said:

This actually dovetails with something which occurred to me this weekend.

Everyone understands that the VAST majority of 'comments' on any particular piece are left probably in, say, the first 48 hours after a piece is added to a gallery.
(This excepts Comic Book Royalty-type additions, which will attract comments at a more-or-less steady pace for the whole of their gallery life)

After that, it usually quiets down.

EXCEPT... the 'views' tracker still keeps ticking over, ever growing.

SO... my question is: WHO are these fans who continue to view pages steadily, but are very, very unlikely to leave comments?

A few suggestions:
1) Non-CAF viewers, who, having no CAF account, don't have the ability to comment (probably brought in by Google searches?)
2) Automated processes, (perhaps within CAF but more likely external) i.e. bots whose attention still counts as a CAF view
3) The Cabal, quietly lurking in disciplined fashion; typical.

Now that I look at my list, I don't know if there is much to discuss after all.     Will post anyway, in case anyone has anything to add or correct.

You forgot to add the reason of people just searching for specific art later on.  I don't scan all the new uploads as often as I use to, but once in awhile I search a particular artist, character, artist/character combo or other search terms, and would click things then (especially when I didn't see it when it was newly uploaded)

Malvin

[J.Sid]

Funniest part of that thread: didn't it start off saying he was a lurker and that this was his first post? All the potential topics to talk about in this hobby and THAT was the one which pushed him over the edge to take to his keyboard...

[SiegeLoki]

On 9/12/2022 at 12:59 PM, thethedew said:

SO... my question is: WHO are these fans who continue to view pages steadily, but are very, very unlikely to leave comments?

While I don't know the answer to this question in general, I do know that the most *viewed* pieces in my collection are my three nude Loki commissions.  Which does not match my most commented or most favorited pieces.

[Yorick]

On 9/11/2022 at 5:32 PM, grapeape said:

How seriously do you guys take it when you leave a comment?

CAF isn't a chat forum.  For myself, if the artwork blows my mind I'll leave a short comment.  Otherwise, nice pieces get the "like".   I am happy that the "respond" option is available in the comments portion.

It was said in that earlier thread that's Marcus' comments invite more participation in sharing there, and I agree.  Sharing more artwork is a good thing (even if I have to wade through pages and pages of material I have no interest in).

[Yorick]

On 9/12/2022 at 10:08 AM, malvin said:

I search a particular artist, character, artist/character combo or other search terms, and would click things then (especially when I didn't see it when it was newly uploaded)

More and more I find myself looking at specific collector's galleries.  I continually see the same member profiles with the same taste in material and artists that I have.  I have discovered many artists to keep an eye on due to the great taste of fellow collectors.

[Will_K]

1) If there's a piece that I absolutely know will generate a lot of comments... and I see that piece soon enough that I'd be an early commenter... I'm more likely to comment, not that I'm commenting just to comment.

But if I'm late to the party, I'm less likely to comment.  Basically, I doubt that I can add any observations or commentary.  No need for me to be the 1000th person to say it's a great piece.

2) I look at older pieces in a CAF gallery (especially if I discover a new gallery).  I'll add a comment... whenever

3) I'm sure there are lots of older pieces that get lots of views but not a proportionate amount of comments. 

Basically, "Jim Lee" might searched constantly but that may not generate a constant stream of comments. 

Look at CAF's most searched terms:

https://www.comicartfans.com/popular-searches.asp

Which has some useful stats.  And as of this writing, "Dean Yeagle" shows up in all 4 stats.  Nice pinup but is there a "Please share your Dean Yeagle art" topic in this forum ??

Edited September 13, 2022 by Will_K

[Bird]

On 9/12/2022 at 3:33 PM, SiegeLoki said:

While I don't know the answer to this question in general, I do know that the most *viewed* pieces in my collection are my three nude Loki commissions.  Which does not match my most commented or most favorited pieces.

for a long time the most viewed piece in my gallery was a piece titled BUS by Andy MacDonald. It is a bus. IIRC 2nd most was a MCP Weapon X page by BWS I had up to 900/1000 pieces at one point and Bus was always king of the junkyard. I never figured it out

Edited September 13, 2022 by Bird

[Bird]

I just went to my CAF, which is much smaller these days. Bus has been passed by BWS Storyteller page 8454 to 8489.  It wasn't Weapon X, that only has 1989

[cloud cloddie]

On 9/12/2022 at 5:21 PM, Will_K said:

1) If there's a piece that I absolutely know will generate a lot of comments... and I see that piece soon enough that I'd be an early commenter... I'm more likely to comment. 

But if I'm late to the party, I'm less likely to comment.  Basically, I doubt that I can add any observations or commentary.  No need for me to be the 1000th person to say it's a great piece.

2) I look at older pieces in a CAF gallery (especially if I discover a new gallery).  I'll add a comment... whenever

3) I'm sure there are lots of older pieces that get lots of views but not a proportionate amount of comments. 

Basically, "Jim Lee" might searched constantly but that may not generate a constant stream of comments. 

Look at CAF's most searched terms:

https://www.comicartfans.com/popular-searches.asp

Which has some useful stats.  And as of this writing, "Dean Yeagle" shows up in all 4 stats.  Nice pinup but is there a "Please share your Dean Yeagle art" topic in this forum ??

What happened in the last 24 hours to make ‘nude’ make the list? 

[Will_K]

On 9/12/2022 at 8:34 PM, cloud cloddie said:

What happened in the last 24 hours to make ‘nude’ make the list? 

The stats only show the top 20.  I'm willing to assume "nude" is usually in the top 25 of every stat.

[timguerrero]

I know I really appreciate other collectors leaving comments on my art but I rarely publish any art on CAF anymore. I also used to look at the featured Galleries in the CAF newsletter and leave comments on the pieces I liked. I really don't have time to do that anymore regrettably.

[RBerman]

On 9/12/2022 at 7:21 PM, Will_K said:

Look at CAF's most searched terms: https://www.comicartfans.com/popular-searches.asp

Which has some useful stats.  And as of this writing, "Dean Yeagle" shows up in all 4 stats.  Nice pinup but is there a "Please share your Dean Yeagle art" topic in this forum ??

Every day I watch my Bruce Timm piece inch toward the day it will overtake my older E. Basaldua piece in total views. It's my spectator sport. None of mine have even 1000 views, but I'm happy with my collection. The main sharing satisfaction I get is from showing pages to artists themselves.

[Bronty]

With all the places there are to look at nude pics, I am surprised CAF serves that purpose for some people.

[pkveronese]

Wai is great and Muscle Man is remarkable as well. I ready for my kids to hit a Regular Show phase.

[grapeape]

On 9/12/2022 at 5:32 PM, Bird said:

I just went to my CAF, which is much smaller these days. Bus has been passed by BWS Storyteller page 8454 to 8489.  It wasn't Weapon X, that only has 1989

C’mon everybody..... to the bus!!!!!!!! 

Comments are welcome 

[Bronty]

On 9/13/2022 at 3:34 PM, grapeape said:

C’mon everybody..... to the bus!!!!!!!! 

Comments are welcome