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Stan, Jack, and Steve - The 1960's (1961) The Castaway Strikes Back
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ON NEWSSTANDS NOVEMBER 1961

Stan increases the amount of stories he does with Kirby on Love Romances #96 (4) and Teen-Age Romance #85 (3)... and why not? We know Stan doesn't write scripts, and we can see Kirby writing the story right onto the original art pages... Stan may be giving the synopsis', but they're as vanilla as it gets... and this is Jack at his least interested (loose pencils), with Colletta's inking trying to take over the images. 

 

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ON NEWSSTANDS NOVEMBER 1961

For Journey Into Mystery #76 - Kirby did the cover and wrote and penciled TWO stories (all inked by D. Ayers and thus, missing a signature). There is an ad at the bottom of the last page for the Fantastic Four.

Actually looks like Kirby inking to me...

Story ONE:

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You've come to the 10c -> 12c transition, which I think DC initiated one month before Marvel.

Is this transition significant regarding the economics of comic publishing? Is there a connection between this and

Marvel not publishing any issues in October?

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On 12/15/2022 at 3:07 AM, Rosland said:

You've come to the 10c -> 12c transition, which I think DC initiated one month before Marvel.

Is this transition significant regarding the economics of comic publishing? Is there a connection between this and

Marvel not publishing any issues in October?

It's possible.

But DC changed over and still put out 26 titles for October.

Charlton used the 'still only 10 cents' for October and put out 26 titles for the month. They'd completely change over in March of the following year with 26 titles for the month. 

It's also possible that Goodman didn't think Marvel could survive the hit they'd take in the marketplace if they raised prices and again considered shutting down. However, they were up about 2.7 million copies for the year, and at some point maybe decided to give it another year to see...

It would be a good decision...

In fact... for the rest of the 60's, DC would have spectacular growth in sales, Marvel would increase every year, and Archie would have it's best sales in over a decade...

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ON NEWSSTANDS NOVEMBER 1961

For Strange Tales #93 - Stan Lee and Steve Ditko also had a story in this issue, signed Stan Lee & S. Ditko on the splash page. There is an ad at the bottom of the last page for Amazing Adult Fantasy. 

As much as I admire the Ditko art on some of these 5 pagers, despite not being a fan of the 'stories' by Lee, this is one in particular that... Oy Vey! That's some lazy writing...

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ON NEWSSTANDS NOVEMBER 1961

For Tales of Suspense #26 - Kirby did the cover and wrote and penciled just ONE story (all inked by George Klein and thus, missing a signature - all of the rest of the stories have at least the artist signing their work). There is an ad at the bottom of the last page for the Fantastic Four.

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ON NEWSSTANDS SEPTEMBER 1961

For Tales to Astonish #28 - Kirby did the cover and wrote and penciled TWO stories (all inked by D. Ayers and thus, missing a signature). There is an ad at the bottom of the last page for the Fantastic Four.

Actually THIS story is apparently inked by D. Ayers (first three pages) and finished by Sol Brodsky.

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ON NEWSSTANDS NOVEMBER 1961

Tales to Astonish #28 - Stan Lee and Steve Ditko also had a story in this issue, signed Stan Lee & S. Ditko on the splash page. There is an ad at the bottom of the last page for Amazing Adult Fantasy. 

This story includes the use of the 'talking planet'... a panel where it shows the planet (in this instance, earth) with word balloons coming from it for dialogue. There was a lot of this at Marvel, and it's suspected that either a) Goodman or Lee wanted it included because they thought it was a something that helped sales (Goodman once told Al Jaffee to use the checkerboard on hair like Archie has because that's what made Archie sell), b) as quick way to change art in a panel that Lee didn't like or c) a lazy way for the artists to pad a story base don Marvel's low rate of pay...

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On 12/15/2022 at 12:07 AM, Rosland said:

You've come to the 10c -> 12c transition, which I think DC initiated one month before Marvel.

Is this transition significant regarding the economics of comic publishing? Is there a connection between this and

Marvel not publishing any issues in October?

It played a role at the time of the price increase. We thought in terms of one dollar for  ten issues ....it went to 8 issues and 4 cents...it also increased trading on 10 cent issues which were cheaper...If you had to ask me why 24 cents not 30...probably because one quarter could get TWO comics and when either at the drug store or supermarket we would always get more than one comic book during a purchase and at 15 cents each...not really doable. As kids we were aware of price, that is why I and my other collectors stayed await higher price covers until the Strange Tales ANN1 came out, and we then saw that value....by the way the yearly Annuals, especially in year 1963...were a big hit and 5/10 to one trade at the time. It really helped that FF ANN#1 was one of the GREATEST marvel annuals every created...a real trend setter will all NEW material.

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