Popular Post Dr. Balls Posted June 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2023 I'm sad over this news, and disappointed that it took me 5 days to read what is arguably the lamest handling of an entertainment property since Firefly and The Lone Gunmen. https://screenrant.com/punisher-more-marvel-gets-rid-most-controversial-character/ This doesn't sound like a typical cash-grab "death of" thing. They have seemingly carped on and wiped their rear ends with the entire legacy of Frank Castle - from his origin, to his motivations, to his relate-ability - right down to reworking his logo into something absolutely atrocious because they think a fractional minority could take control of an entire almost 50 year brand identity. Stupid, and I hope everyone at Marvel gets the "Baby Shark" song stuck in their head for the rest of their life. Gonzimodo, nepatkm, theCapraAegagrus and 4 others 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Aldred Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 I don’t believe it’s permanent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Balls Posted June 8, 2023 Author Share Posted June 8, 2023 On 6/7/2023 at 7:09 PM, Ken Aldred said: I don’t believe it’s permanent. Even if it's not - they have really buggered pretty much everything about Frank Castle. Admittedly, I haven't read a Punisher comic since Punisher Max: The Platoon - but there's a baseline for Punisher fans to be able to relate to the character, and they've trashed it - and I'd agree with the article: it sounds like it was on purpose. Ken Aldred 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bc Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) "Yes, let's just burn a 50 year branding campaign" (said by no VP of Marketing ever that stays employed) -bc Edited June 8, 2023 by bc typo aardvark88, Larryw7, Dr. Balls and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazyboy Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 "Dear Marvel, You Suck." So what else is new decades old? Larryw7, goldust40, theCapraAegagrus and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehumantorch Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Marvel, what are you doing? One of your most original and important characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s-man Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) Quote Marvel Comics clearly no longer wants to be associated with in this day and age where the imperative is staying as far away from controversy as possible. Good luck with that. As long as they continue to put out comics and movies, controversy will follow. Edited June 8, 2023 by s-man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmiesta Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) I'm guessing he hasn't been the real Punisher for years anyway, and as for that new logo thing, Edited June 8, 2023 by batmiesta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr Zen Posted June 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2023 On 6/7/2023 at 8:09 PM, Ken Aldred said: I don’t believe it’s permanent. I do. Just like when DC killed Superman. That's why there have been no new Superman comics since 1992. Larryw7, BlowUpTheMoon, eee91 and 11 others 3 3 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLHOLDINGS Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 I recently stopped buying new Marvel books. I now buy only deeply discounted raw BA and SA for future CGC grading. Bargains!!!! I also stopped watching Disney or buying anything Disney. Maybe they will get the idea to leave my Marvel characters alone. I am the reader who buys their books or does NOT buy their books...or movies. Now I do not buy their new books. Maybe I should not see their movies either. I like back issues better anyway. batmiesta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Readcomix Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 I guess they should do Wolverine next. He has no qualms about killing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post media_junkie Posted June 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2023 On 6/7/2023 at 9:27 PM, bc said: "Yes, let's just burn a 50 year branding campaign" (said by no VP of Marketing ever that stays employed) -bc I think the Bud Light people would tell you to hold their beer. Far as I can tell those execs have not been fired yet (just on leave of absence) and they have cost their company many many billions. Dr. Balls, Gonzimodo, theCapraAegagrus and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lazyboy Posted June 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2023 On 6/7/2023 at 9:30 PM, JLHOLDINGS said: I recently stopped buying new Marvel books. I now buy only deeply discounted raw BA and SA for future CGC grading. Bargains!!!! I also stopped watching Disney or buying anything Disney. Maybe they will get the idea to leave my Marvel characters alone. I am the reader who buys their books or does NOT buy their books...or movies. Now I do not buy their new books. Maybe I should not see their movies either. I like back issues better anyway. Marvel was ruining everything years before Disney was involved. jsilverjanet, media_junkie, Larryw7 and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B2D327 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Quote On 6/7/23 at 10:45 PM MARVEL said: Yes, we know…and you’ll live with it cuz we said so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beige Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 When Jason Aaron wrote 'Scalped' I thought the was going to be an real innovator of storylines moving forward. It's so sad he has now become just another Marvel drone, towing the 'safe' lines. It would be brilliant if Marvel sold the IP for Frank Castle / Punisher to another company. Jon Berthnal got this character spot on in the TV show, and rekindled interest in old fans, and gained new ones. With Frank teaming up with DD in the new series - what's the point of dumping Frank now? It's comics for goodness sake, not the real world - if peeps don't like it, they won't buy it. I have COVID so sorry if this post makes no sense. Ken Aldred 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExNihilo Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 On 6/7/2023 at 6:06 PM, Dr. Balls said: I'm sad over this news, and disappointed that it took me 5 days to read what is arguably the lamest handling of an entertainment property since Firefly and The Lone Gunmen. https://screenrant.com/punisher-more-marvel-gets-rid-most-controversial-character/ This doesn't sound like a typical cash-grab "death of" thing. They have seemingly carped on and wiped their rear ends with the entire legacy of Frank Castle - from his origin, to his motivations, to his relate-ability - right down to reworking his logo into something absolutely atrocious because they think a fractional minority could take control of an entire almost 50 year brand identity. Stupid, and I hope everyone at Marvel gets the "Baby Shark" song stuck in their head for the rest of their life. He's literally set to appear in the new Daredevil series. This is just a case of poor writing/editorial. He'll be back with a classic logo at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 On 6/8/2023 at 3:45 AM, ExNihilo said: He's literally set to appear in the new Daredevil series. This is just a case of poor writing/editorial. He'll be back with a classic logo at some point. Right. I read this Aaron series and thought it was pretty good, with an epilogue that left an opening for the next writer to take the character in pretty much any direction. Seems like Aaron did an effective job getting attention on his book. jsilverjanet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 I'm gonna be honest, pretty much all comic books have sucked since about 2018, so this doesn't really move a needle for me. I'm sure that they're hoping the PR will garner some sales, and then I'm guessing that they're hoping the reboot will do the same. It would take some balls to kill the character 'for good'. Gonzimodo, batmiesta, Dave2739 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 On 6/8/2023 at 6:39 AM, theCapraAegagrus said: I'm gonna be honest, pretty much all comic books have sucked since about 2018 You don't read indys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 On 6/8/2023 at 6:42 AM, Ryan. said: You don't read indys? IDK if SIKTC is an indy, but I did read and enjoy the first 15 issues of that. To your point, though, I haven't read many indy comics. My attack was meant mainly for Marvel/DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...