HERO RESTORATION - BOOKS NOT BEING RETURNED 20 20

[wolverine180]

On 6/10/2023 at 7:22 PM, Kamenliter said:

A class action suit would be the best way to go, but aside from myself, my friend and the fellow here with the missing AF 15, I have yet to find anyone waiting on books. I’ve posted on Facebook, IG and now here. This post has gotten the most comments, by far, but from not from anyone waiting on books (AF 15  aside) or people who did business with him in the past. 
 

I still can’t understand why there aren’t more posts like mine as there have to be a bunch of people waiting on their books. It’s puzzling. 

No he has an AF15 of mine as well. Just came across this thread as well. Currently trying to read everyone's comments before I make a big response as well. But I paid 3200 as well for work to be done to improve my restored af 15 which was a CGC 4.5. He advised 18-24 months at a cost of 2500 or I could fast track it for 700 more and get in 6 -8 months. That was over 3 years ago. I will chime in later with all my details. And I did threatened legal action.  I just have not followed through because he assured me he will get to my book but no time frame. I was trying to be sympathetic but I am losing my patience. Will respond at a later date. On vacation currently and don't want to get all jacked right now thinking of it. 

[Dr. Balls]

Not to be terribly flippant because this is probably the most serious issue of this kind I’ve read while I’ve been on these boards - but seriously, the only thing missing at this point is a helicopter video of Mike driving down the highway in a white Ford Bronco.

[Black_Adam]

On 6/23/2023 at 2:41 PM, Dr. Balls said:

 

 
We need a “shocked” emoji for this thread.

[L'Angelo Misterioso]

On 6/23/2023 at 5:51 PM, wolverine180 said:

No he has an AF15 of mine as well. Just came across this thread as well. Currently trying to read everyone's comments before I make a big response as well. But I paid 3200 as well for work to be done to improve my restored af 15 which was a CGC 4.5. He advised 18-24 months at a cost of 2500 or I could fast track it for 700 more and get in 6 -8 months. That was over 3 years ago. I will chime in later with all my details. And I did threatened legal action.  I just have not followed through because he assured me he will get to my book but no time frame. I was trying to be sympathetic but I am losing my patience. Will respond at a later date. On vacation currently and don't want to get all jacked right now thinking of it. 

A new victim joins the fray  How many people has he conned?

[bc]

Holy 

He likely has $100K+ worth of peoples books (just from what is posted so far) not to mention a significant amount of prepaid funds (around $20K from what's been disclosed).

Really hoping everyone gets their books & money back, but not gonna lie, this just smells really bad.

-bc

[quicksilver]

On 6/23/2023 at 9:45 PM, mattn792 said:

I assume he didn’t say anything about returning your $12,275?

Yes - he said it was impossible.

And that he was filing for bankruptcy, and I would have the opportunity to apply for some restitution when contacted by the trustee.

Not a lot I can do from this distance I would think.

Edited June 23, 2023 by quicksilver

[ExNihilo]

On 6/23/2023 at 3:10 PM, L'Angelo Misterioso said:

A new victim joins the fray  How many people has he conned?

This whole thing has really opened my eyes to just how expensive and time consuming restoration work is.

[NoMan]

I'm thinking about getting into pressing and restoration. More time on my hands as the writers are still on strike. Send me your books. I think I'd would do good work. For a while I was into vintage TimeX watches and I had a Timex from the 1960s that was all gunked up and would not keep a wind. I tried everything to fix it until I had the thought one day, "Why not throw it into a pot of boiling water?" So I did, let it boil for about 20 minutes pulled it out and it runs perfectly now. I have a natural talent for restoration work.

So I'm going to start pressing and restoring books. BM me for prices. I guarantee quick turnaround.

Edited June 23, 2023 by NoMan

[thehumantorch]

On 6/23/2023 at 3:51 PM, wolverine180 said:

No he has an AF15 of mine as well. Just came across this thread as well. Currently trying to read everyone's comments before I make a big response as well. But I paid 3200 as well for work to be done to improve my restored af 15 which was a CGC 4.5. He advised 18-24 months at a cost of 2500 or I could fast track it for 700 more and get in 6 -8 months. That was over 3 years ago. I will chime in later with all my details. And I did threatened legal action.  I just have not followed through because he assured me he will get to my book but no time frame. I was trying to be sympathetic but I am losing my patience. Will respond at a later date. On vacation currently and don't want to get all jacked right now thinking of it. 

He has fast track?   

[thewritestuff]

On 6/23/2023 at 5:51 PM, wolverine180 said:

No he has an AF15 of mine as well. Just came across this thread as well. Currently trying to read everyone's comments before I make a big response as well. But I paid 3200 as well for work to be done to improve my restored af 15 which was a CGC 4.5. He advised 18-24 months at a cost of 2500 or I could fast track it for 700 more and get in 6 -8 months. That was over 3 years ago. I will chime in later with all my details. And I did threatened legal action.  I just have not followed through because he assured me he will get to my book but no time frame. I was trying to be sympathetic but I am losing my patience. Will respond at a later date. On vacation currently and don't want to get all jacked right now thinking of it. 

I’m sorry for all those who are in limbo. If any one of those high priced books were mine, I’d fly to Oregon and go to his house to demand the books back that instant. I’d deal with the money later. I wonder if a group can do just that and “liberate” your books from him.

if he owed me 12k I’d be asking for his car keys or seek to put a lien on his house.

Edited June 23, 2023 by thewritestuff

[mattn792]

If any of the resident lawyers want to chime in - I’m wondering if everyone who has paid HR to date for services not rendered is entitled to receive notice as a creditor if he does file for bankruptcy.  Maybe being able to lodge your claim will at least get you a portion of your money back.

[jaybuck43]

On 6/23/2023 at 7:20 PM, mattn792 said:

If any of the resident lawyers want to chime in - I’m wondering if everyone who has paid HR to date for services not rendered is entitled to receive notice as a creditor if he does file for bankruptcy.  Maybe being able to lodge your claim will at least get you a portion of your money back.

(Boilerplate legal disclaimer, this is not legal advice, seek an attorney in your jurisdiction if you need legal advice)

Services are not debts, so you're not entitled to bankruptcy proceedings.  A verdict is.  

[JT307]

After reading most of this, the part that is really concerning is the no refund if you cancel policy. There has to be contract performance by HR, otherwise one could construe the actual business structure was to collect monies for services that in reality HR never intended to be rendered, forcing the client to request cancellation due to the performance issue. Rinse, repeat, free profit.

The Ponzi scheme analogy is very close in my opinion. If they do not have the money to refund or even ship back goods, they were basically waiting on future monies to pay for previously promised services to others. If that's the case, do you really think you are getting your books back?  

Interestingly enough, the original registrant of the LLC has moved/sold property several times since their recent windfall of cash. 

 

[Black_Adam]

On 6/23/2023 at 3:48 PM, NoMan said:

I'm thinking about getting into pressing and restoration. More time on my hands as the writers are still on strike. Send me your books. I think I'd would do good work. For a while I was into vintage TimeX watches and I had a Timex from the 1960s that was all gunked up and would not keep a wind. I tried everything to fix it until I had the thought one day, "Why not throw it into a pot of boiling water?" So I did, let it boil for about 20 minutes pulled it out and it runs perfectly now. I have a natural talent for restoration work.

So I'm going to start pressing and restoring books. BM me for prices. I guarantee quick turnaround.

How long will you let the comics boil for?   

[wombat]

On 6/23/2023 at 8:53 PM, Black_Adam said:

How long will you let the comics boil for?   

Rule of thumb is 1 minute for every year it has been around.  

[Hero Restoration]

On 6/13/2023 at 3:44 PM, thehumantorch said:

Thanks for the update.  Hopefully that will help alleviate some of the concerns and buy you some time to get caught up.  And remember your health and heart are more important than comics.

I don't understand, I typed it all out. Is there a character limit? 2 hrs I could have done shipping, now lost. this forum sucks, or someone is monkeying with my reply's.

[Timmay]

On 6/23/2023 at 10:07 PM, Hero Restoration said:

On 6/13/2023 at 6:44 PM, thehumantorch said:

Thanks for the update.  Hopefully that will help alleviate some of the concerns and buy you some time to get caught up.  And remember your health and heart are more important than comics.

I don't understand, I typed it all out. Is there a character limit? 2 hrs I could have done shipping, now lost. this forum sucks, or someone is monkeying with my reply's.

or you're bad with money AND computers

[Hero Restoration]

Okay, this is short and sweet. I can't settle everyone at once. Every additional client the wants to cancel only makes it worse. If this thread continues, all operations will come to a halt. I am not settling in public, and I can see CGC Mike has a serious conflict in interest. If you think cancel all at once is the solution, go try that out at a bank.

This thread has so much libel, speculative, and mis-information, there is no way I can get my point across. Think whatever you want to think, but this thread will cause clients more harm than good. While Mike allows all this to occur, a blatant quadruple violation of CGC terms of use, he has been adamant to stifle me. That is fine, the client who are creating the libel, inaccurate, public display will have tyo wait until they respect the law before I will communicate. But, if CGC Mike thinks this is all okay, I have top secret CGC communications about settlements, I will post later, if not banned.

[Hero Restoration]

On 6/23/2023 at 7:09 PM, Timmay said:

or you're bad with money AND computers

Or you don't know what your talking about? No, that can't be possible, right?

[Microchip]

Reading this thread, and seeing whats been happening in this hobby with all the companies involved, whether it's pressing, or slabbing, the core job is maintaining scheduling of customer orders.  Not the actual slabbing, or pressing.

Serious resto work sounds like it needed to be axed from Hero Restoration asap.   It just kills productivity, and scheduling of all the other work, no matter how many thousands of dollars are charged in fees for the work.

The peaks and troughs of workflow generated by the market are the biggest factors needed to be accounted for in long term performance of any business attached to this hobby.

 

 

Edited June 24, 2023 by Microchip