CGC Files Lawsuit Against Employees 30 30

[BlowUpTheMoon]

On 2/1/2024 at 5:04 PM, dbcn said:

Doesn't look like eBay either knows about the case - the seller still has listings up (seems like they would suspend the account if they were told there might be fraudulent items)

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fss=1&_saslop=1&_sasl=omni_collector&LH_SpecificSeller=1

[ADAMANTIUM]

On 2/1/2024 at 3:49 PM, BlowUpTheMoon said:

With respect to seven of the twenty-three stolen comic books, unsatisfied with the grade received, Mr. Terrazas “swapped” their CGC-branded labels with higher-graded labels, thereby misrepresenting lower-grade collectible products as higher-grade collectible products. Id. Specifically, Mr. Terrazas admitted to consigning five comic books encapsulated with CGC grade labels to ComicLink under his wife’s name, Ayana Terrazas, four of which were stolen and swapped. Id. ¶ ¶ 11, 13. These consigned comic books included Amazing Spiderman #129, Amazing Spiderman #16, Incredible Hulk #181, Batman #251, and Silver Surfer #1. Id. ¶ 11. In particular, in an October 2023 email to an outside investigator engaged by CCG, Mr. Terrazas provided images of four of the comic books he had stolen and swapped that remained in his possession, included below: 3 As of the present date, it appears that “terrazas-the-collector” is no longer active on eBay. Id. ¶¶ 10, 17. Case 8:24-cv-00301-KKM-AAS Document 4 Filed 01/31/24 Page 9 of 23 PageID 54 9 Id. ¶ 12. Even aside from his practice of willful certificate swapping, Mr. Terrazas otherwise violated the CGC rules, which exist ultimately to protect the public and CGC’s brand as a trusted source. Id. ¶ 1

So item #11 shows that CGC knew about this since last October?

[littledoom]

Here before the lock

[JAM_NYC]

Poor Hulk 181, it’s become the catalytic converter of the comic world. 

[bc]

On 2/1/2024 at 5:09 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

So item #11 shows that CGC knew about this since last October?

They at least suspected something or they would not have hired a private investigator.

-bc

[namisgr]

Insiders printing their own labels, then having encapsulated lower grade books, then selling them via multiple online venues - wowza.

[ADAMANTIUM]

On 2/1/2024 at 4:13 PM, bc said:

On 2/1/2024 at 4:09 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

item #11 shows that CGC knew about this since last October?

They at least suspected something or they would not have hired a private investigator.

-bc

Well I'm glad we're not of the mind to flambaste 9.9 or the other YouTuber who "discovered this from scans!" Lol

Or was it a leak, probably not, but snap if it ain't a whirlwind in tarnation 

Bless our heart 💖

[BlowUpTheMoon]

On 2/1/2024 at 5:09 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

So item #11 shows that CGC knew about this since last October?

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[hyhhyss12]

On 2/1/2024 at 2:24 PM, BlowUpTheMoon said:

New Suit - Trademark

CASE

Certified Collectibles Group, LLC v. Terrazas

COURT

U.S., Middle District of Florida

SUMMARY

Certified Collectibles Group and Certified Guaranty Co. sued former employees Brandon Terrazas and Ayana Terrazas for conversion, false advertising and trademark infringement on Jan. 31 in Florida Middle District Court. The suit, brought by Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp, accuses the defendants of duplicating high-value comic book grade labels and applying them to lower-value comic books, thereby deceiving customers into paying inflated prices for incorrectly-graded comic books. Counsel have not yet appeared for the defendants. The case is 8:24-cv-00301, Certified Collectibles Group LLC et al. v. Terrazas et al.

Oh mess

[John R]

 

[hyhhyss12]

On 2/1/2024 at 12:30 PM, Transplant said:

 

This is a big yikes 

[Dark Knight]

I think CGC should invest in buying more video cameras and put them up at each work station to keep an eye on their employees if it hasn't been done so yet.

[ADAMANTIUM]

On 2/1/2024 at 4:21 PM, John R said:

 

That must have come over the bat phone, to the batpole cameras,

Insert we'll do it live gif

[BlowUpTheMoon]

Investigator hired on October 5th. 

[Dick Pontoon]

I'm not surprised some lowlifes were trying to game the system, there's always going to be people like that. I am genuinely amazed that CGC hired these clowns and apparently has zero employee oversight.

[Albert Thurgood]

On 2/2/2024 at 5:54 AM, ExNihilo said:

Yeah, I was confused by this bit as well.  Why does CGC have a person specifically for handling eBay packages?

Could it be that buyers of raw books from ebay get the sellers to send them direct to CGC?

[BlowUpTheMoon]

Can someone explain #22?

[bc]

On 2/1/2024 at 5:28 PM, Albert Thurgood said:

Could it be that buyers of raw books from ebay get the sellers to send them direct to CGC?

It's for the Card Grading division.

-bc

[NWOslave]

On 2/1/2024 at 4:23 PM, Dark Knight said:

I think CGC should invest in buying more video cameras and put them up at each work station to keep an eye on their employees if it hasn't been done so yet.

or take a queue from drug manufacturers and have them work in their under garments

[bc]

On 2/1/2024 at 5:31 PM, NWOslave said:

or take a queue from drug manufacturers and have them work in their under garments

On 2/1/2024 at 4:44 PM, BlowUpTheMoon said:

Mr. Terrazas would then submit for grading each of the stolen comic books and then publicly advertise, consign, or sell the comic books on eBay or at trade shows

Think the defendant was using a personal account to slide the books thru the system - so they would be shipped to their residence. They may never have removed books from the premises - they gamed the system.

-bc